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Glass catfish has strange white clouds IN it.

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Wayne Armstrong

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Jan 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/5/98
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I have had 5 glass cats for about a year now and one of them suddenly
developed strange white cloudy irregular shaped spots. The fish is acting
normally and I also noticed that this fish has a larger "guts" section.
(real scientific huh!) The water conditions are the same except I just
adjusted my temp from 75 to 77 a couple of weeks ago. No other fishes have
any signs of illness.
Well I have never seen anything like this as it appears to be inside the cat
rather than on the surface. Any ideas what this may be?

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Justin and Daphne Travis

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Jan 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/7/98
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judgin by the age, type of fish, and temperature conditions, from what I've
been reading lately you might have a momma fish on your hands. If so,
congradulations!
Justin Travis
Batesville, MS.
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Wayne Armstrong

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Jan 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/8/98
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J & D, I had originally thought this may be a possibility but I could not
find any data that would suggest a coloration change with pregnancy.
I ended up moving her/him to a hospital tank yesterday to begin a treatment
of maracyn incase its some type of bacterial infection causing these
symptoms. The fish was acting healthy and normal before I moved it though.
I am interested in any information you may have that would support the
pregnancy scenario.

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Justin and Daphne Travis

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Jan 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/9/98
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>J & D, I had originally thought this may be a possibility but I could not
>find any data that would suggest a coloration change with pregnancy.

>I am interested in any information you may have that would support the
>pregnancy scenario.
>
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>Wayne

Wayne,
The information regarding the pregnancy scenario is sketchy, but I got it
from the book...TROPICAL FISH, as a Hobby...by Herbert R. Axelrod PH.D. He
mentioned that the catfish breeds when placed in group will sometimes form
natural pairs. Nothing really noticable, just the male paying some extra
attention to the female sometimes and that when that happens the
intestinal,abdominal region of the female will be slightly
enlarged/distended. Being that the fish in question is transparent, it might
just be egg masses that you're seeing. Don't hold me to this, but it does
pose one scenario. The medication surely shouldn't cause a problem though.
Maybe someone, preferable an icthyologist, will make a reply to this. You
might try sending an email to the biology department at Mississippi State
University. My biology professor there lived, breathed, and slept fish. We
never got through a class without a fish story. Just look up the school on
the web. It won't take long to find the right address.
Justin Travis
Batesville, MS
jus...@panola.com

Wayne Armstrong

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Jan 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/10/98
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Thanks!

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Nathanael Henderson

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Jan 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/11/98
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: >The information regarding the pregnancy scenario is sketchy, but I got it

: >from the book...TROPICAL FISH, as a Hobby...by Herbert R. Axelrod PH.D. He
: >mentioned that the catfish breeds when placed in group will sometimes form
: >natural pairs. Nothing really noticable, just the male paying some extra
: >attention to the female sometimes and that when that happens the
: >intestinal,abdominal region of the female will be slightly
: >enlarged/distended. Being that the fish in question is transparent, it
: might just be egg masses that you're seeing. Don't hold me to this, but

<pulls out wallet> Mmm, $10 down on 'egg scatterer.' :-) I've had the
good fortune of observing several hours of what could only have been
courting behavior between two of these fish. They would pursue each
other, wag bodies next to each other, all the usual displays you would
expect from say a cichlid. There wasn't any sort of scouting out a piece
of substrate or other preperation, and the courting took place in open
water. Given the apparent complete lack of a copulatory mechanism (you
need some way to safely get sperm into the female for live-bearers) and
the lack of other live-bearing catfish I think live birth is unlikely.
Judging from the behavior I observed I would further speculate that the
eggs are scattered in much the same way as most tetras and barbs or
perhaps adhered to things.
Since they HAVE spawned several times at least in captivity I think
it's certainly worth trying to spawn them, although I don't even know what
water conditions they might prefer. (Mine were in fairly hard, alkaline,
and somewhat saline water.) The biggest thing to keep in mind I think is
that the fish that are found in shops may very well be just
adolescents--Baensch says they can reach 6", and mine were about 3.5". If
you try your hand at them, be patient. :-)


Nathan H.

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