Use of Epsom Salts for Goldfish?
GHT788
that is safe to add to a tank -- one medium goldfish -- for relief of
constipation? Peas haven't worked that well. Should I get a heater to
raise the temp? My tank is at about 69F in the winter. What's the
ideal tank temp for a goldfish's digestive system?
marx404
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http://puregold.aquaria.net/disease/disease.htm
marx404
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BErney1014
>that is safe to add to a tank
Epsom salt is used to increase the hardness of water. If you have a test kit
for GH you can test as you go along. The amount is dependant on the particular
water chemistry you may have.
Epsom salt used for digestive problems is usually added to food.
I think metabolism doubles every 10 degrees, but you can check that.
N2...@wi.rr.com
a continous basis. a 30 second salt dip will usually clean the fish out.
however, the pea and crystal of epsom usually does the job as well. yeah,
75-780F is better for digestion. Over 88 and they quit eating as a rule.
just not feeding the fish for a couple days can clean em out too.
why do you think they are constipated?
what are your water parameters?
what are you feeding, how much, how often?
Ingrid
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>
> 1/8 teaspoon per 5 gallons during treatment for dropsy. It is not used on
> a continous basis. a 30 second salt dip will usually clean the fish out.
> however, the pea and crystal of epsom usually does the job as well. yeah,
> 75-780F is better for digestion. Over 88 and they quit eating as a rule.
> just not feeding the fish for a couple days can clean em out too.
> why do you think they are constipated?
> what are your water parameters?
> what are you feeding, how much, how often?
> Ingrid
My lionhead has been having a problem in the last week with standing on
his head near the bottom. He floats upside down sometimes. He was fine
before as long as he pooped well. I notice that when his poop output is
less, that he starts to stand on his head. He is going up to the top
sometimes and gulping air like he has some sort of discomfort with his
tummy and going back down. I changed his diet to Hikari wheat germ
since I heard that it's more easily digestible for fish at lower temps.
He did better with this food before this episode. And he seemed to do
better when there is epsom salts in the water (1/8 tsp/5 gal).
When I feed him tetracycline flake food, he seems to get better and goes
right side up when I turn the lights out at night.
I feed him once a day not too much. The tank temp is about 68-69F. The
ammonia is undetectable, pH=7.5, GH=213ppm, KH=4, NO3= have problems
with it, it's high but coming down.
Should I get a heater for the tank? I think I'll try the pea/crystal
of epsom salt thing.... will they eat the epsom salt or spit it out?
N2...@wi.rr.com
immediately. gulping at the top (serious, continuous) has been linked to
internal infections with columnaris and feeding antibiotic food is
suggested.
high nitrates do affect fish, so keeping nitrates less that 20 ppm is
recommended for fancy GF.
head standing may be caused by toxic water conditions
http://puregold.aquaria.net/disease/symptom/symptom2.htm#HEAD STANDING
try feeding precooked, chopped shrimp for a few days and see if the head
standing and floatiness changes. but a heater is called for. digestion in
fancies is better at 75
yeah, they will eat the pea with a crystal of epsom salts.
INgrid
GHT788 <GHT...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> why do you think they are constipated?
>> what are your water parameters?
>> what are you feeding, how much, how often?
>> Ingrid
>
>My lionhead has been having a problem in the last week with standing on
>his head near the bottom. He floats upside down sometimes. He was fine
>before as long as he pooped well. I notice that when his poop output is
>less, that he starts to stand on his head. He is going up to the top
>sometimes and gulping air like he has some sort of discomfort with his
>tummy and going back down. I changed his diet to Hikari wheat germ
>since I heard that it's more easily digestible for fish at lower temps.
>He did better with this food before this episode. And he seemed to do
>better when there is epsom salts in the water (1/8 tsp/5 gal).
>
>When I feed him tetracycline flake food, he seems to get better and goes
>right side up when I turn the lights out at night.
>
>I feed him once a day not too much. The tank temp is about 68-69F. The
>ammonia is undetectable, pH=7.5, GH=213ppm, KH=4, NO3= have problems
>with it, it's high but coming down.
>
>Should I get a heater for the tank? I think I'll try the pea/crystal
>of epsom salt thing.... will they eat the epsom salt or spit it out?
GHT788
>
> you actually shouldnt see GF poop if it is normal. it falls apart almost
> immediately. gulping at the top (serious, continuous) has been linked to
> internal infections with columnaris and feeding antibiotic food is
> suggested.
> high nitrates do affect fish, so keeping nitrates less that 20 ppm is
> recommended for fancy GF.
> head standing may be caused by toxic water conditions
> http://puregold.aquaria.net/disease/symptom/symptom2.htm#HEAD STANDING
> try feeding precooked, chopped shrimp for a few days and see if the head
> standing and floatiness changes. but a heater is called for. digestion in
> fancies is better at 75
> yeah, they will eat the pea with a crystal of epsom salts.
> INgrid
I've been wanting to get some ROMET-B to keep in a medicine chest for my
fish.... Does ROMET-B keep long? Is their a website for Dandys Orandas
where you can buy ROMET-B? I'm going to do a water change and service
the filter. I got this Cell Pore Biocartridge and will see if I get
better results in keeping nitrates low with it. What about that new
info on floating on the Puregold website?.... about gas/enteritis
causing the same symptoms as floating upside down? I was thinking my
fish may be in this category.... Is the treatment for this condition
still antibiotic food?
Madelyn
>From: N2...@wi.rr.com
>Date: 17/02/2002 14:57 GMT Standard Time
>
>you actually shouldnt see GF poop if it is normal. it falls apart almost
>immediately.
:( All three of my fish produce quite solid things that trail around for a
while. Other than that, they seem well. Am I feeding wrongly? - I alternate
between a freeze-dried food (daphnia/worms/etc) and flake.
N2...@hotmail.com
if the flake is cheap and sits on the shelf it really is not good enough.
live food, even frozen, is not recommended for fancy GF. supplement with
chopped cooked human shrimp. Ingrid
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BErney1014
>>immediately.
The above is bull.
>:( All three of my fish produce quite solid things that trail around for
>a
>while.
Years back we asked a master breeder, who ran a farm, what ideal poop looked
like. He laughed of course, but replied it should break off in chunks. What you
see in a tank is the result of the food and how much is fed at one time. If you
spread the food out over the course of a day, it will be different from a once
a day feeding. In a tank goldfish recycle it into fines either way.
Felix Martin
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> get a high quality food http://puregold.aquaria.net/care/food.html
> if the flake is cheap and sits on the shelf it really is not good enough.
> live food, even frozen, is not recommended for fancy GF. supplement with
> chopped cooked human shrimp. Ingrid
'human shrimp'? perhaps with fava beans and a nice Chianti (slurp)
can you hear the lambs Clarrie?... i mean Ingrid
: )
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