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Jason Stratford

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Apr 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/4/00
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Howdy folks,
I am in the process of setting up a 200L tank for keeping Discus. I am going
to make it a planted tank and will need to have a few algae eaters to help
control the green nasty stuff. What's the best little sucker for the job?
I really prefer to have many smaller, rather then one big one so was think
of some Ottocinclus - any thoughts? How do they cope with the water
parameters for Discus?
TIA
Jas

David Modine

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Apr 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/4/00
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Oto's would be my first choice. True SAE's would be good while they are small,
when they get big they become real pigs & might get to the food before the
discus

NaturalDTP

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Apr 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/4/00
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In article <8ccnhm$23l$1...@neuron.alteredminds.com>, "Jason Stratford"
<jaso...@coconutsoftware.com> writes:

>What's the best little sucker for the job?
>I really prefer to have many smaller, rather then one big one so was think
>of some Ottocinclus - any thoughts?

Definately Otos. Look out for 3 commonly available species; Oto.vitattus
(striped), Oto. niger (black) and another one whose latin name escapes me but
has similar markings to peppered corys. With all Oto's get as many as you can
afford - a shoal of 15 I once had looked great

I would also put in a pair of Ancistrus, which breed fairly easily in large
densly planted tanks.

Alan W

tony

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Apr 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/4/00
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How high temp can the bristle nose (otto ) can surive?
I think I have killed mine when I raise tank temp to 32C to treat
gill fluke.

My tank temp is 28C, PH is 6.5 Hardness ~60ppm. Would the bristle nose
surive there?

Do they need more than 1 to be comfortable in the tank? Or they
would be stressed out with only 1 in tank?

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Gi Arab

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Apr 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/5/00
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>Definately Otos. Look out for 3 commonly available species; Oto.vitattus
>(striped),

We put a pair of these little guys in our 55G Tanganyikan tank. It had a layer
of brown algae over everything. Within a week, they had it all cleared off
(except the group of rocks defended by a pair of spawning juli. regani)

Great little fish!!

NaturalDTP

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Apr 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/5/00
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In article <8cdsrc$2kp$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, tony <tony_...@my-deja.com>
writes:

>How high temp can the bristle nose (otto ) can surive?
>I think I have killed mine when I raise tank temp to 32C to treat
>gill fluke.

Bristlenose catfish (ancistrus spp.) will take water to 84 F, perhaps 86 F if
there was plenty of oxygenation. Otocinclus will probably cope with 84 F

>My tank temp is 28C, PH is 6.5 Hardness ~60ppm. Would the bristle nose
>surive there?

Yes, ideal

>Do they need more than 1 to be comfortable in the tank? Or they
>would be stressed out with only 1 in tank?

Bristlenoses are fine on their own, but Otocinclus are fairly strict shoalers
so 4 would be a minimum.

HSIAOTSU

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Apr 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/9/00
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I got rid of the ottos after they started grazing off the sides of my discus.
Bushy nose plecos are great. They also handle high temperatures very well.

W.

MAXWELL PICKERING

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Apr 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/25/00
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Hi

I agree that Otto's would be your best choice.

Regards

Max

Max's Discus Page
http://freespace.virgin.net/m.pickering

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Jason Stratford <jaso...@coconutsoftware.com> wrote in message
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> Howdy folks,
> I am in the process of setting up a 200L tank for keeping Discus. I am
going
> to make it a planted tank and will need to have a few algae eaters to help

> control the green nasty stuff. What's the best little sucker for the job?


> I really prefer to have many smaller, rather then one big one so was think

Bob Raible

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Apr 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/26/00
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I don't think so, Otocinclus affinis likes cooler water than discus.
According to Baensch ideal temp range is 68-79 deg F (20-26 deg C).
Discus won't breed or even thrive in this temp range.

Jonathan White

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Apr 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/28/00
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Bob Raible wrote:
>
> I don't think so, Otocinclus affinis likes cooler water than discus.
> According to Baensch ideal temp range is 68-79 deg F (20-26 deg C).
> Discus won't breed or even thrive in this temp range.

I've had otos in my discus tank for well over a year... I keep the tank
temp at 86F and the otos don't mind it at all.

--
Jonathan N. White
jwhi...@sprynet.com
http://home.sprynet.com/~jwhite07/index.htm

It's hard to be nostalgic when you can't remember anything.

MAXWELL PICKERING

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May 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/4/00
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Experience is better than any book!!

Regards

Max

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David Bartfield

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May 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/4/00
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I don't think so, Otocinclus affinis likes cooler water than discus.
According to Baensch ideal temp range is 68-79 deg F (20-26 deg C).

Where are you getting this information? My octocinclus love the warm acidic
water my discus thrive in. In fact the temperature sometimes gets as high as
90 degrees and they don't seem to mind. As long as there are no sudden temp.
changes they should be fine.

Respectfully
Dave


Andre Mesquita

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May 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/13/00
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David Bartfield <djon...@cs.com> wrote in message
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> I don't think so, Otocinclus affinis likes cooler water than discus.
> According to Baensch ideal temp range is 68-79 deg F (20-26 deg C).

> Where are you getting this information?

Perhaps he got the info from nature! Perhaps its the temp range of the
waters were they live in.
The fact that they "survive" in much higher temperatures doesnt mean they
love it- they might just hate it, but you cant tell that for sure, so the
best is to
have the same conditions for them that are found in nature.

Andre

BEV SHUTT

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Jun 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/26/00
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Hi
I keep and breed Discus as a hobby in Indonesia, what ever your fancy in
algae eaters, pick slow moving quite species. Your size of tank is good for
breeding, so you must look to the future and I can tell you there will be
trouble as soon as your discus breed with any other species of tank mate.
These normally dignified fish can turn into Mike Tysons. Its really better
to control the Algae by lighting and leave your tank as a single species
setup.
Stick a muslim bag of peat moss out of the way in one corner of the tank to
stabilise your PH renew when the PH starts to rise above 7. The discus will
be happy and raise the kids anywhere between 6 & 7.
Good luck and regards
Bev
MAXWELL PICKERING <m.pic...@virgin.net> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> I agree that Otto's would be your best choice.
>
> Regards
>
> Max
>
> Max's Discus Page
> http://freespace.virgin.net/m.pickering
>
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