Goldfish for feeders
Method1182
Can I breed Goldfish in a 10 g tank?
If so How?
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metho...@aol.com (Method1182) writes: > Can I breed Goldfish in a 10 g tank?
> If so How?
I'm sure you can breed goldfish in a 10 gallon tank, but I'd caution
that goldfish are dirty and crappy alternatives as feeder fish. They
are big disease carriers and should be fed sparingly (as an ocassional
treat, maybe).
JOSEPH RIZZI
I've heard that it is almost impossible to breed goldfish. I have an
outside pond with goldfish for about 5 years now and none of them have
multiplied. I don't know if they do propogate and then eat young or
what. I just know I have exactly what I put in there---never any new
ones.......................................................Zee
In <6cdpil$8...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> <Dra...@worldnet.att.net>
writes:
Bongy Tang
I think goldfish is very easy to breed if the condition is right. If you put
them in an outside pond, I am pretty sure that they have breed before but
might have eaten their eggs afterward. Try to post it on the goldfish
newsgroup, they got more knowledgable people on this subject.
Bongy
Vancouver, BC
In article <6cgen8$8...@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>, ri...@ix.netcom.com(JOSEPH
Thai Ton
In article <6cdpil$8...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>, Dra...@worldnet.att.net
says...
>
>metho...@aol.com (Method1182) writes: > Can I breed Goldfish in a 10 g
tank?
>> If so How?
>
>I'm sure you can breed goldfish in a 10 gallon tank, but I'd caution
>that goldfish are dirty and crappy alternatives as feeder fish. They
>are big disease carriers and should be fed sparingly (as an ocassional
>treat, maybe).
If this is true, then what's a good alternative?
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In article <6cdpil$8...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>, <Dra...@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
>metho...@aol.com (Method1182) writes: > Can I breed Goldfish in a 10 g
tank?
>> If so How?
>
>I'm sure you can breed goldfish in a 10 gallon tank, but I'd caution
>that goldfish are dirty and crappy alternatives as feeder fish. They
>are big disease carriers and should be fed sparingly (as an ocassional
>treat, maybe).
Line drive to right field... FOUL BALL.
1. No, you cannot breed goldfish in a 10 G tank.
2. Goldfish ARE NOT dirty and disease carriers. Commercial vendors sell a lot
of goldfish as feeders because they breed easily and in vast numbers. The
drive to make a larger margin of profit causes the gf to be abused and
stressde (making them prone to disease). If you breed goldfish, like I do, you
can see them live long lives over ten years... but I breed goldfish to see
them live and not die.
ps - A healthy goldfish can grow to be over a foot long. Your fish need to be
healthy and happy before they breed. An averago of ten gallons is recommended
per small sized goldfish (yes this is arbitrary and NOT exact.. but it works).
Larger fish need larger tanks.
Madhusudan Natarajan
Northwestern University, Evanston, IL. USA
m-nat...@nwu.edu
Mmm1963
>> Can I breed Goldfish in a 10 g
>tank?
>>> If so How?
>>
>>I'm sure you can breed goldfish in a 10 gallon tank, but I'd caution
>>that goldfish are dirty and crappy alternatives as feeder fish. They
>>are big disease carriers and should be fed sparingly (as an ocassional
>>treat, maybe).
That's alot of BS on top of BS. Feeder Goldfish or Comets get very big!
Comets can grow to a foot in length. The little critters that you see in your
LFS are juveniles that are barely a year old.
After several years of growth, they can produce offspring and are pretty big.
To breed goldfish, you should have a thirty gallon tank for each breeding
pair.
Feeder goldfish are not diease carriers. In reality, they are one of the
strongest diease resistant fish in aquariums. That is one of the reasons LFS
uses them as feeders. Like any fish, If they are not cared for properly, they
will develop dieases. Breeders and LFS don't take care of them and they fall
prey to many parasites.
--
James
The Moore's
Try plattys or guppys, add a few snails for janitor duty, your fish will
eat the exess snails too.
Good fishing, Matt
Ron G.
Thai Ton wrote in message <6ckn0k$i...@sf18.dseg.ti.com>...
>In article <6cdpil$8...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>, Dra...@worldnet.att.net
>says...
>>
>>metho...@aol.com (Method1182) writes: > Can I breed Goldfish in a 10 g
>tank?
>>> If so How?
>>
>>I'm sure you can breed goldfish in a 10 gallon tank, but I'd caution
>>that goldfish are dirty and crappy alternatives as feeder fish. They
>>are big disease carriers and should be fed sparingly (as an ocassional
>>treat, maybe).
>
>If this is true, then what's a good alternative?
Acutally the question is why feed feeders? Feeders confront numerous
problems and 99.8% of aquarium fish can and will thrive and breed without
feeding live foods. So, the question is why take the chance. If you want
live foods, try earthworms instead. Ron G.
BazMan
Ron G. wrote:
>
>
> Acutally the question is why feed feeders? Feeders confront numerous
> problems and 99.8% of aquarium fish can and will thrive and breed
> without
> feeding live foods. So, the question is why take the chance. If you
> want
> live foods, try earthworms instead. Ron G.
I agree with you, and regularly feed my oscars earthworms. But I also
find that they are boring, both for me to watch and for the oscars to
eat. They (and I) like to see some fast-paced action once in a while. It
is my belief that simply dropping the food in front of the fish's nose
makes for a lazy and fat blob. Giving them live food that will also give
them a bit of a chase keeps them active.
I get my goldfish from one shop only, because I know that they take
pride in keeping healthy fish only. And even then I only get the feeders
once every fortnight, about 15-20 depending on the price. I also feed
crickets and pellets as well as the earthworms.
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JOSEPH RIZZI
I haven't heard anything about this. Thanks to a son who left me with
four tarantulas and two White's Tree Frogs, I have been feeding lots of
of crickets and wonder if pet store quality crickets are safe for
larger fish........................................................Zee
In <34F1559D...@ozdocs.hatespam.net.au> BazMan
er...@pacbell.net
On 24 Feb 1998 05:57:27 GMT, ri...@ix.netcom.com(JOSEPH RIZZI) wrote:
> I haven't heard anything about this. Thanks to a son who left me with
>four tarantulas and two White's Tree Frogs, I have been feeding lots of
>of crickets and wonder if pet store quality crickets are safe for
>larger fish........................................................Zee
I have some kids here in the neighborhood that Collect crickets
from the front porch on a regular basis. Both they and the Red Devils
seem to enjoy this alot! We have been doing this with no adverse
results for over six years now...............
er...@SoCA.com
Binksy
Some friends of mine all live in a student house together. One's got a
tropical community tank (tiger barbs, kribs, jade-eyed cichlids),
another keeps tree-frogs, which she feeds with crickets. Crickets that
are thrown into the fish-tank are devoured with alarming speed and
verocity - it's a really ugly thing to watch but the fish seem to love
them and there are seemily, no adverse affects.
my two pence, Andrew
The Moore's
I overdid the crickets with my severum once, she became constipated, &
quit eating for a couple days. She was about 3 inches long at the time, and
had eaten five or six over a few hours. My wife and I had been giving her
treats, without the other spouse realizing it. The fish has always been
capable of eating as many moths as I'm willing to catch. I've wished the
tank could be wheeled out under the porch light so she could catch her own.
Maybe those hard cricket exoskeletons were too much roughage. I'd say
crickets are fine, in moderation.
Good fishing, Matt
Kevin McDowell
I feed my red devils, buttikoferi, oscars and catfish crickets. I keep
reptiles and order 1000 crickets at a time. They love them.
Kevin McDowell
JOSEPH RIZZI wrote:
> I haven't heard anything about this. Thanks to a son who left me with
> four tarantulas and two White's Tree Frogs, I have been feeding lots of
> of crickets and wonder if pet store quality crickets are safe for
> larger fish........................................................Zee
>
Ron G.
BazMan wrote in message >
>I agree with you, and regularly feed my oscars earthworms. But I also
>find that they are boring, both for me to watch and for the oscars to
>eat. They (and I) like to see some fast-paced action once in a while. It
>is my belief that simply dropping the food in front of the fish's nose
>makes for a lazy and fat blob. Giving them live food that will also give
>them a bit of a chase keeps them active.
>I get my goldfish from one shop only, because I know that they take
>pride in keeping healthy fish only. And even then I only get the feeders
>once every fortnight, about 15-20 depending on the price. I also feed
>crickets and pellets as well as the earthworms.
Your beliefs about making for less lazy fish I will go along with to a point
but, I don't blieve that feeding non live food makes for a fat fish.
Feeding feeders is what makes a fat fish and here is why: Feeders are mass
raised. They are over bred and feed high amounts of food to make the grow
as fast as possible. This high amount of food causes fat to build up in
their system. Then you feed the fat fish to your pet. And the pet store
you go to may be the best in the world and take great care of the fish they
sell but, they care no better for feeders than any other pet store. What
you don't see is the store manager or workers flushing the 10 to 30 dead
goldfish a day. I've worked at many aquarium stores over the last 9 years
as a hobby and trust me, no one cares or pays attention to the quality of
the feeders. The turn over rate is just to high and come on, they only cost
the store 3 cents each. Ron G.
FD1STATION
you are both talking about earthworms and goldfish but have you ever tried
ghost shrimp?
my cichlids love ghost shrimp!!!!!!!!!
Dra...@worldnet.att.net
fd1st...@aol.com (FD1STATION) writes: > you are both talking about earthworms and goldfish but have you ever tried
> ghost shrimp?
>
> my cichlids love ghost shrimp!!!!!!!!!
Mine love ghost shrimp, too. They provide quite a chase, and can
last for up to a couple weeks (they hide in the gravel, under the
driftwood, etc.). However, last time I kept finding them on the
floor. Seems they'd jump out of the tank to escape being eaten.
FD1STATION
>
>Mine love ghost shrimp, too. They provide quite a chase, and can
>last for up to a couple weeks (they hide in the gravel, under the
>driftwood, etc.). However, last time I kept finding them on the
>floor. Seems they'd jump out of the tank to escape being eaten.
>
>
never had that problem my fish are normally all over them , they don't last too
long
JOSEPH RIZZI
Just me personally, I get no joy out of feeding live to the live, but
we all do eat each other in this world. The reason I asked the question
is because my son wants to put crickets in once in awhile and I wanted
to know whether to smack him or not to make him quit. He's a head
taller than me. He can take it............................Zee
In <6ctng7$5...@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> ri...@ix.netcom.com(JOSEPH
RIZZI) writes:
>
I haven't heard anything about this. Thanks to a son who left me with
>four tarantulas and two White's Tree Frogs, I have been feeding lots
of
>of crickets and wonder if pet store quality crickets are safe for
>larger fish........................................................Zee
>
>
>In <34F1559D...@ozdocs.hatespam.net.au> BazMan
><gb...@ozdocs.hatespam.net.au> writes:
>>
>>Ron G. wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Acutally the question is why feed feeders? Feeders confront
>numerous
>>> problems and 99.8% of aquarium fish can and will thrive and breed
>>> without
>>> feeding live foods. So, the question is why take the chance. If
>you
>>> want
>>> live foods, try earthworms instead. Ron G.
>>
>>
>>I agree with you, and regularly feed my oscars earthworms. But I also
>>find that they are boring, both for me to watch and for the oscars to
>>eat. They (and I) like to see some fast-paced action once in a while.
>It
>>is my belief that simply dropping the food in front of the fish's
nose
>>makes for a lazy and fat blob. Giving them live food that will also
>give
>>them a bit of a chase keeps them active.
>>I get my goldfish from one shop only, because I know that they take
>>pride in keeping healthy fish only. And even then I only get the
>feeders
>>once every fortnight, about 15-20 depending on the price. I also feed
>>crickets and pellets as well as the earthworms.
FreemanG12
I've fed crickets to my larger cichlids, and they love them. They're safe to
feed, and probably a lot safer than feeder fish. After all, they're the main
food for a large variety of amphibians and reptiles.
-- Greg, Atlanta
The Moore's
I agree with Greg on the safety factor, a terestrial insect carrying a
disease to a fish seems unlikely, just make sure they're alive before
feeding, also see my earlier post on cricket constipation( the fish, not
the bug).
Good fishing, Matt