Bomartan Acrylic Digital Clock
flac...@my-dejanews.com
May: It's as different from the archetype of an antique as it can be, but
someone may be interested, and since there are a lot of UK people here and
that's where it was made, I thought I'd see if anyone in here knows about it
and what it might bring.
It's a Bomartan acrylic digital clock. New in the box (actually, I took it
out and ran it for a few weeks, but it did not appear to be aged thereby).
It's an acrylic block about 22 x 16 cm., with a circuit board embedded in it,
a digital display, and a warranty card indicating Latama Inc. at a N.Y.
address. The digits are red. The clock sets by touching contacts embedded in
the back (with some difficulty). There is no battery backup. I estimate date
of manufacture to be sometime in the late '60s or early '70s. The literature
spends a lot of ink on the wonderment of its microchip technology.
The item would look right at home in a Terence Conran-stylish type house.
Any thoughts out there?
Mark Hankins
I've written the world's shortest twisted poem: "Every sparrow; needs an
arrow."
"Lifestyle expands to use up the available income" - Anonymous
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Ronnie McKinley
>The item would look right at home in a Terence Conran-stylish type house.
>
>Any thoughts out there?
>
Yea throw it in the bin.
Ronnie
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"Little Jimmy's gone Way out of the backstreet
Out of the window Through the fallin' rain
Right on time Right on time"
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flac...@my-dejanews.com
around...wouldn't dare throw away the $5 or $10 I think I might get for an
acrylic-block digital clock, no way, no siree. I'll be taking a digital
picture and writing some very rapturous prose, and someone who collects these
things will outbid a few other someones who do the same thing. Heck, I found
an old sliderule (of my father's, I suppose) the other day. Checked on Ebay
and some like it were going for $150. What could be more useless in '99 than
a sliderule? But people want 'em.
In article <36b6cea9...@nntp.netcomuk.co.uk>,
Mark Hankins
http://members.aol.com/flacorps
http://www.delistme.com
I've written the world's shortest twisted poem: "Every sparrow; needs an
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Ronnie McKinley
>Sorry, can't do that as long as we have this marvelous thing called Ebay
>around...wouldn't dare throw away the $5 or $10 I think I might get for an
>acrylic-block digital clock, no way, no siree.
Ever thought about selling yer body?
Ronnie
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"Down on Cyprus Avenue
With a childlike vision leaping into view
Clicking, clacking of the high heeled shoe
Ford & Fitzroy, Madam George"
.... Mat The Hat
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trancery
">Sorry, can't do that as long as we have this marvelous thing called
Ebay
>around...wouldn't dare throw away the $5 or $10 I think I might get for an
>acrylic-block digital clock, no way, no siree."
If anyone is pissing their pants because they can't wait to see this
group turn into
the eBay annex and feels like I was just being my normal horses ass
self by
bringing this to your attention, consider the post above. If this is
what you want
this newsgroup to be, let 'er rip. Maybe you can call it rec. junk or
rec. too good to throw away and not good enough to keep
or rec. shit. You can make this newsgroup anything you want
it to be. Is this what you want?
">Sorry, can't do that as long as we have this marvelous thing called
Ebay
>around...wouldn't dare throw away the $5 or $10 I think I might get for an
>acrylic-block digital clock, no way, no siree."
It's up to you.
T.
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flac...@my-dejanews.com
Here we have Lot #14, one caucasian male body, minimal wear and tear, 5'11",
190 lbs. @ 22% body fat, brown hair (slightly receding), hazel eyes (20/20
vision, no correction needed), decent cyclist, slower runner, good tennis
reflexes unused in several years. Not recommended for use with other sports
in light of risk of extreme humiliation. No major surgery, joints & spine
good. Body has been used for SCUBA on a few occasions but has not suffered
bends. Some sunburns through adolescence. Mild pot belly in need of crunches.
Upper body could use some training. Digestion good. One basal skull fracture
in childhood, completely healed. Four permanent teeth pulled incident to
orthodontics, wisdom teeth removed as well. Crowns on two lower molars, some
fillings are not yet composites; bleaching may be indicated. Allergies
largely cleared up, some tendency toward sepsis if bitten by mosquitos.
Tonsils have been removed. Voice quality varies, singing not recommended.
Intimate data available by appointment, but should not affect buyer's
interest. Brain sold separately. What do I hear for the lot?
flac...@my-dejanews.com
mcki...@netcomuk.co.uk wrote:
>
> Ever thought about selling yer body?
>
> Ronnie
Here we have Lot #14, one caucasian male body, 1962 American (northern
European) model, minimal wear and tear, 5'11", 190 lbs. @ 22% body fat, brown
Ronnie McKinley
>Here we have Lot #14, one caucasian male body,
Er ... I am afraid you may have missed my point .. old bean.
Kris Baker
>Here we have Lot #14, one caucasian male body, minimal wear and
>tear, 5'11", 190 lbs. @ 22% body fat, brown hair (slightly receding),
>hazel eyes (20/20 vision, no correction needed), decent cyclist,
>slower runner, good tennis reflexes unused in several years.
>Not recommended for use with other sports in light of risk of
>extreme humiliation. No major surgery, joints & spine good.
>Body has been used for SCUBA on a few occasions but has not
>suffered bends. Some sunburns through adolescence. Mild pot
>belly in need of crunches. Upper body could use some training.
>Digestion good. One basal skull fracture in childhood, completely
>healed. Four permanent teeth pulled incident to orthodontics,
>wisdom teeth removed as well. Crowns on two lower molars,
>some fillings are not yet composites; bleaching may be indicated.
>Allergies largely cleared up, some tendency toward sepsis if
>bitten by mosquitos. Tonsils have been removed. Voice quality
>varies, singing not recommended.
>Intimate data available by appointment, but should not affect
>buyer's interest. Brain sold separately. What do I hear for the lot?
>Mark Hankins
Hmmm....since I'm in Utah (and there's little penalty for poly-
gamy), I might place a bid.
Firstly, does this lot qualify as "vintage" (or....shudder....true
antique meeting the import guidelines for the US?)
Secondly, does this lot hang wallpaper, fix THAT toilet, and not
burp?
Thirdly, does this lot enjoy going shopping?
Kris
flac...@my-dejanews.com
grandmother's floral pattern 8' x 11' or so wilton that my mother left in the
garage and allowed moths to ruin in spots, or same grandma's nice drop leaf
table in the black, or a few other items. I was just warming up with
something simple, small, and intriguing which has no sentimental value to me,
since it just turned up here where we live. I didn't find the item schlocky;
rather as one of the earlier examples of its type, it is almost the platonic
ideal of a digital clock, with its innards exposed for all to see, and
serving no function but to tell the time (unlike today's rather busy
multifunction items). You'd probably like it if you saw it. My Ebay comments
were sort of tongue in cheek, because the person who answered "throw it in
the bin" is obviously not the target audience for this thing, but it's hardly
a beany baby.
I'm as grossed out as the next person by the beanie babies/franklin mint
commemorative items/Elvis statutary as the next person. But there's also more
antiques than there ever was furniture, and some of you Lovejoys make a
pretty penny reassembling gawd knows what for the Dicks and Doras of the
world. My aim in here is to get enough knowledge not to be too dangerous to
my own wallet while picking up stuff I like that won't embarass me, and
disposing of stuff I don't like at top dollar. The clock I like, but I can
let it go too...
If the antiques community is frightened by the quickening pace of commerce in
collectibles trading, get over it. If you just hate seeing Ebay taking their
vig, get together and hire some programmers to create an alternative site that
will enrich your lives and pockets.
In article <9FHt2.6997$QU6.50...@c01read10.service.talkway.com>,
Mark Hankins
Carol Millar
separately" part.
I presume you all are aware that the going rate for a man's brain is
5,000.00 while a womans's brain sells for only $500.00
Why the large difference you ask?
Because the woman's brain has been used.
(I know, that's an old one, but I couldn't resist).
Carol
>
> Here we have Lot #14, one caucasian male body, minimal wear and tear, 5'11",
>
snip..
Brain sold separately. What do I hear for the lot?
>
Wood Whisperer
trancery wrote:
>
> "If the antiques community is frightened by the quickening pace of
> commerce in
> collectibles trading, get over it. If you just hate seeing Ebay taking
> their
> vig, get together and hire some programmers to create an alternative
> site that
> will enrich your lives and pockets."
>
> Pardon, I thought I had made myself clear. Let me try again.
> This newsgroup exists for the discussion of antiques, the definition of
> which
> we have decided will be objedcts 50 years or older.
> The point I wished to make
> is that the subject of the ins and out of Ebaying are not germane to
> this declared intention.
> Simply that. I was calling for a sort of seperation of church and
> state, you see.
> Hope this helps you understand what is going on.
> T.
> --
Is this reminder anything like the thought
police?
Smorgass Bored
This sounds like a great idea until you come to the "brain sold
separately" part.
I presume you all are aware that the going rate for a man's brain is
Because the woman's brain has been used.
lb. of Brains???
Duh,
Doug W.
~>*)))>< Big fish eat Little fish ><(((*<~
Ronnie McKinley
> My Ebay comments
>were sort of tongue in cheek, because the person who answered "throw it in
>the bin" is obviously not the target audience for this thing, but it's hardly
>a beany baby.
I didn't realize you were "targeting" me. You asked for opinions
remember
...... in a previous post you said:
>It's as different from the archetype of an antique as it can be, but
>someone may be interested, and since there are a lot of UK people here and
>that's where it was made, I thought I'd see if anyone in here knows about it
>and what it might bring.
>The item would look right at home in a Terence Conran-stylish type house.
>Any thoughts out there?
The thoughts from the UK was ...... "throw it in the bin"
Cause you're absolutely correct in saying:
>It's as different from the archetype of an antique as it can be
So what's your point in posting to rec.antiques? .. believe me *when I
say" .. from the UK point of view . it's a piece of shite, throw it
in the bin .. if you need 10 bucks that bad we'll have a whip-round.
trancery
trancery
"as long as we have this marvelous thing called
get for an
acrylic-block digital clock, no way, no siree,"
correlate with this,
"If the antiques community is frightened by the quickening pace of
commerce in
collectibles trading, get over it."
next you seem to be talking
about being on the cutting edge of the game!
If you are not saying they are the same thing then what are you saying,
please?
It may not be so, I may have missed something along the way, but it
seems to be that you
are saying dumpster diving is the wave of the future. ;)
trancery
police?"
That's what you think.
flac...@my-dejanews.com
mcki...@netcomuk.co.uk wrote:
> >It's as different from the archetype of an antique as it can be, but
> >someone may be interested, and since there are a lot of UK people here and
> >that's where it was made, I thought I'd see if anyone in here knows about it
> >and what it might bring.
>
Well, the fact is, in electronics terms, it is an antique ... people are
already starting to collect obsolete software and computers and the like
because this stuff was so ephemeral that it has become scarce and valuable.
So here's this clock, and I can't find the name of the manufacturer anywhere
(ran a metacrawler on it and got nothing). I'm looking to find out a little
bit about it, having no idea whether Bomartan was large or small (have to
assume small, since I remember BL and Lucas and all sorts of other obscure
concerns).
>
> So what's your point in posting to rec.antiques? .. believe me *when I
> say" .. from the UK point of view . it's a piece of shite, throw it
> in the bin .. if you need 10 bucks that bad we'll have a whip-round.
>
Well, if the point of being antique is simply to be old, or to adhere to some
procrustean chronological standard, fine. I know it's not crap, though
perhaps it's not valued now. It's unusual, I've never seen one this old, heck
at one time it must have cost a heck of a lot of money...I remember my father
having one of the first Pulsar watches (well before Bond had the identical
model in "Live and Let Die"), and those things weren't cheap. Nor are there
many running examples left.
I'm sure from the Greek and Turkish point of view, there's little of value in
Britain (at least, little of value that wasn't stolen from Greece or Turkey).
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flac...@my-dejanews.com
JDK...@prodigy.com (Kris Baker) wrote:
> >mcki...@netcomuk.co.uk wrote:
> >> Ever thought about selling yer body?
> >> Ronnie
>
>
> gamy), I might place a bid.
>
> Firstly, does this lot qualify as "vintage" (or....shudder....true
> antique meeting the import guidelines for the US?)
>
> Secondly, does this lot hang wallpaper, fix THAT toilet, and not
> burp?
toilets not problem, burps, but stifles 'em when in company. Will shop. But
remember, all that stuff stays with the brain, not the body. Won't give up
alcohol and cola to live in Utah with the Mor(m)ons.
>
> Thirdly, does this lot enjoy going shopping?
>
> Kris
>
>
Mark Hankins
http://members.aol.com/flacorps
http://www.delistme.com
I've written the world's shortest twisted poem: "Every sparrow; needs an
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Kris Baker
Well....that leaves me out. I guess I have to withdraw.
>37 years old, never tried wallpaper, but wouldn't mind,
>toilets not problem, burps, but stifles 'em when in company.
>Will shop. But remember, all that stuff stays with the brain,
>not the body. Won't give up alcohol and cola to live in Utah with
>the Mor(m)ons.
Who said you had to give up alcohol to live in Utah?
Kris
(savoring my Merlot right now)
flac...@my-dejanews.com
Wood Whisperer <"No email"@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> trancery wrote:
> > This newsgroup exists for the discussion of antiques, the definition of
> > which
> > we have decided will be objedcts 50 years or older.
>
> Is this reminder anything like the thought
> police?
Well, with that rigid definition you rule out a whole lot of stuff that's
become obsolete and was largely thrown out and has now become desirable and
collectible again because of said purge. The definition of antique is
"anything very old", and whether something is very old varies with custom,
use, and technology. Ebay is annoying to you because of the mountains of
schlock that move on it, and a distinction needs to be drawn between the
antique and collectibles markets, but arbitrary chronological distinctions
are something you're gonna regret later because they'll reduce the
effectiveness of your radar.
If people want to talk about stuff that has interest because it was made a
while back, wasn't made with collecting in mind, wouldn't be produced again
in the same way (at least not in volume) because technology has moved on,
isn't around much anymore because a large percentage of the items have
suffered attrition, and perhaps has a bit of intrinsic beauty or elegance in
design or construction, there should be a place for that.
Perhaps the idea that something with integrated circuits and LEDs might be
considered antique puts a few uncomfortably in mind of their own mortality?
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tran...@finfin.com
time. Where you are going wrong is making this personal. Personally, Mark, I
buy and sell some good LED stuff when I get the chance. I had a really good
HP 35 that I made a killing on. But that is not the god damned point. I have
MADE that point (This newsgroup exists for the discussion of antiques, the
definition of which we have decided will be objects 50 years or older) for
you already. Just because that other stuff is collectible, it does not
neccessarily follow that this is the place to discuss it, right? Right. If
you want to lobby the group to expand its definition of what is antique, go
right ahead.
T.
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> trancery wrote:
This newsgroup exists for the discussion of antiques, the definition of which
we have decided will be objedcts 50 years or older.
======================================
Well, with that rigid definition you rule out a whole lot of stuff that's
become obsolete and was largely thrown out and has now become desirable and
collectible again because of said purge. The definition of antique is
"anything very old", and whether something is very old varies with custom,
use, and technology. Ebay is annoying to you because of the mountains of
schlock that move on it, and a distinction needs to be drawn between the
antique and collectibles markets, but arbitrary chronological distinctions
are something you're gonna regret later because they'll reduce the
effectiveness of your radar.
If people want to talk about stuff that has interest because it was made a
while back, wasn't made with collecting in mind, wouldn't be produced again
in the same way (at least not in volume) because technology has moved on,
isn't around much anymore because a large percentage of the items have
suffered attrition, and perhaps has a bit of intrinsic beauty or elegance in
design or construction, there should be a place for that.
Perhaps the idea that something with integrated circuits and LEDs might be
considered antique puts a few uncomfortably in mind of their own mortality?
===
Usenet is a rough place. Get used to it.
Jeffrey A. Kiebler
I have read this thread with great interest my comment about this last
volley are interspersed.
flac...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> Well, with that rigid definition you rule out a whole lot of stuff
> that's become obsolete and was largely thrown out and has now become
> desirable and collectible again because of said purge.
This "rigid" definition of is explained in the Charter and FAQ of the
newsgroup. This distinction, IMHO, has been has not been set
arbitrarily. It is in place to eliminate items/collectibles that are of
questionable interest (beanies, Avon, junk, etc.) Once these items are
of age and fit the definition, discussion will probably occur. As a
USENET subscriber, you are bound to the rules set forth in these
documents, just ask your ISP.
> The definition
> of antique is "anything very old", and whether something is very old
> varies with custom, use, and technology.
This is true, but again the charter and FAQ explicitly state 50 years or
older. Other items that are younger than that age should be discussed
in the numerous alt.collecting and rec.collecting newsgroups, provided
the item fits the definition explained in those groups charters/FAQs.
> Ebay is annoying to you
> because of the mountains of schlock that move on it, and a distinction > needs to be drawn between the antique and collectibles markets, but
> arbitrary chronological distinctions are something you're gonna regret
> later because they'll reduce the effectiveness of your radar.
Most people do not use "arbitrary chronological distinctions" for their
collecting. Most collectibles transcend these boundaries (i.e. baseball
cards, stamps, etc.). These types of collectibles can fit into both
groups based on the age of the particular item to be discussed.
> If people want to talk about stuff that has interest because it was
> made a while back, wasn't made with collecting in mind, wouldn't be
> produced again in the same way (at least not in volume) because
> technology has moved on, isn't around much anymore because a large
> percentage of the items have suffered attrition, and perhaps has a bit
> of intrinsic beauty or elegance in design or construction, there
> should be a place for that.
Again the definition of "a while back" for this group is 50 years or
older. I agree, but this is not the correct forum. I have been
collecting items from the 60's and 70' (19xx, not 18xx) for a while, but
would not pretend to discuss them here.
> Perhaps the idea that something with integrated circuits and LEDs
> might be considered antique puts a few uncomfortably in mind of their > own mortality?
Not at all, I deal with this stuff daily, designing some of these soon
to be "antique" devices. FWIW, items that I deal with can be considered
"antique" in their "world" after a only few years (sometimes months). I
just would not pretend to fit an old IBM 8086 (circa 198x) to fit the
criteria for this group.
This has been a very interesting thread.
Jeff
Carol Millar
Well, with that rigid definition you rule out a whole lot of stuff
that's
> become obsolete and was largely thrown out and has now become desirable and
> collectible again because of said purge.
I couldn't agree more. I know I never tire of the thrill of seeing the
wonderful patina on the plastic case of a well used, lovingly cared for
electronic piece of yore. Not to mention the incredible glow one gets
from the LED which is most reminiscent of vaseline glass, or carnival
glass under a spotlight. But, the crowning glory is the artistry and
flow (almost art noveau) of a well proportioned continuous circuitry
mother board of an antique computer.
The definition of antique is
> "anything very old", and whether something is very old varies with custom,
> use, and technology.
Since we now know the proper definition of the term "antique", how can
we not open our eyes and our hearts to the new frontiers being offered
in our field.
Perhaps the idea that something with integrated circuits and LEDs
might be
> considered antique puts a few uncomfortably in mind of their own mortality?
With all the trouble I have had lately with my computer I must admit
that mortality has crossed my mind. Of course it hasn't been MY
mortality that's been in question.
I think we should all strive to have at least a small representation of
this movement in our display of antiques, perhaps just one small mother
board (sorry, I think I left out a word there.)
Carol
How stodgy we might all get if it weren't for the youth of the world.
Ronnie McKinley
> Ebay is annoying to you because of the mountains of
>schlock that move on it, and a distinction needs to be drawn between the
>antique and collectibles markets,
What in the name of God are you ranting about?
>but arbitrary chronological distinctions
>>are something you're gonna regret later because they'll reduce the
>>effectiveness of your radar.
>>
What the feck does this bollix means? ... "arbitrary chronological
distinctions" ??? ... this is gobbledygook for gobbledygook sake.
Deshazo48
Marianne
Esengo
chronological
>distinctions" ??? ... this is gobbledygook for gobbledygook sake.
Ronnie! Articulate as always! Couldn't agree with you more.
Fayette
"gobbledygook for gobbledygook sake"
P.S. Where's Rich anyways?
clh01
Ronnie McKinley wrote:
> In rec.antiques, flac...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> > Ebay is annoying to you because of the mountains of
> >schlock that move on it, and a distinction needs to be drawn between the
> >antique and collectibles markets,
>
> What in the name of God are you ranting about?
>
> >but arbitrary chronological distinctions
> >>are something you're gonna regret later because they'll reduce the
> >>effectiveness of your radar.
> >>
>
> What the feck does this bollix means? ... "arbitrary chronological
> distinctions" ??? ... this is gobbledygook for gobbledygook sake.
>
Rich Maxson
-----
Fayette wrote...
Mike Wilcox
>
> In article <36B7A066...@hotmail.com>,
> Wood Whisperer <"No email"@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
>
> > > This newsgroup exists for the discussion of antiques, the definition of
> > > which
> > > we have decided will be objedcts 50 years or older.
> >
> > police?
>
> become obsolete and was largely thrown out and has now become desirable and
> "anything very old", and whether something is very old varies with custom,
> schlock that move on it, and a distinction needs to be drawn between the
> are something you're gonna regret later because they'll reduce the
> effectiveness of your radar.
>
> while back, wasn't made with collecting in mind, wouldn't be produced again
> in the same way (at least not in volume) because technology has moved on,
> isn't around much anymore because a large percentage of the items have
> suffered attrition, and perhaps has a bit of intrinsic beauty or elegance in
> design or construction, there should be a place for that.
>
> considered antique puts a few uncomfortably in mind of their own mortality?
>
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
I have seen the thin edge of the wedge before, the problem is, there is
too much shite in the world and it makes great reeking piles that spill
over even into the pristine places. The shear weight of it tumbles down
even the strongest walls if they are left untended, our wall's are the
FAQS, they are there for a good reason. The FAQS are all that keeps this
group from becoming just another lowest common denominator FS, WTB,LAMC,
(Look At My Crap)site. There are enough places on the internet and the
world that cater to the `anything is collectible crowd` and damn few for
those of us who can't stand the stuff. I look forward to reading the
posts here, because for the most part, I know what to expect to see,
talk about antiques as laid out in the FAQ, not prattle about the latest
issue of collector plates. You don't take your outboard to the Canoe
club, and you shouldn't expect much positive feedback from an antique
group regarding a modern clock. Man, I love this Business!
--
Mike Wilcox
"Throw it in the bin"
Visit Antique's 101 Via our site at
http://www3.sympatico.ca/wilcox.hall.2ndcentury
Ronnie McKinley
>P.S. Where's Rich anyways?
Yea Rich get off that stile, the place is being taken over by
toilet-clocks.
Ronnie
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"Down on Cyprus Avenue
With a childlike vision leaping into view
Clicking, clacking of the high heeled shoe
Ford & Fitzroy, Madam George"
.... Mat The Hat
===============================================
flac...@my-dejanews.com
mcki...@netcomuk.co.uk wrote:
>
> this is gobbledygook for gobbledygook sake.
>
Well I see your lawyer detector's in perfect working order! :->
Glad I could get everyone worked up.
I've written the world's shortest twisted poem: "Every sparrow; needs an
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flac...@my-dejanews.com
<9108CCBF1E9EA833.BE40DCE1...@library-proxy.airnews.net
>, "Jeffrey A. Kiebler" <je...@NOSPAMgraytechnologies.com> wrote:
> All
>
> This "rigid" definition of is explained in the Charter and FAQ of the
> newsgroup. This distinction, IMHO, has been has not been set
> arbitrarily. It is in place to eliminate items/collectibles that are of
> questionable interest (beanies, Avon, junk, etc.)
Whoops. It's the very definition of arbitrary...because something is A, it
must be B. Because a person has blue eyes, they must be worthless.
> As a
> USENET subscriber, you are bound to the rules set forth in these
> documents, just ask your ISP.
Big deal. There was no newsgroup where this thing (the Bomartan clock) fit in
the umbra, so I went with the nearest penumbra.
>
> > The definition
> > of antique is "anything very old", and whether something is very old
> > varies with custom, use, and technology.
>
> This is true, but again the charter and FAQ explicitly state 50 years or
> older. Other items that are younger than that age should be discussed
> in the numerous alt.collecting and rec.collecting newsgroups, provided
> the item fits the definition explained in those groups charters/FAQs.
>
...and no coloreds at the lunch counter, either.
> Most people do not use "arbitrary chronological distinctions" for their
> collecting. Most collectibles transcend these boundaries (i.e. baseball
> cards, stamps, etc.). These types of collectibles can fit into both
> groups based on the age of the particular item to be discussed.
Exactly.
>
> Again the definition of "a while back" for this group is 50 years or
> older. I agree, but this is not the correct forum. I have been
> collecting items from the 60's and 70' (19xx, not 18xx) for a while, but
> would not pretend to discuss them here.
Already covered.
flac...@my-dejanews.com
I don't think I've attacked anyone personally...I've been going after an idea.
> But that is not the god damned point.
Nor have I resorted to swearing.
> I have MADE that point (This newsgroup exists for the discussion of antiques,
> the definition of which we have decided will be objects 50 years or older) for
> you already.
I seem to recall things of that sort being done in Lewis Carroll.
> If you want to lobby the group to expand its definition of what is antique, go
> right ahead.
I thought that's what I'd been doing. It's the logic that seems to annoy a few
people. Perhaps I'll give up on logic and just join the lemmings.
Mark Hankins
http://members.aol.com/flacorps
http://www.delistme.com
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trancery
Ronnie McKinley
>Perhaps I'll give up on logic and just join the lemmings.
>
...... leap this way sir.
Jeffrey A. Kiebler
> > This "rigid" definition of is explained in the Charter and FAQ of the
> > newsgroup. This distinction, IMHO, has been has not been set
> > arbitrarily. It is in place to eliminate items/collectibles that are of
> > questionable interest (beanies, Avon, junk, etc.)
>
> Whoops. It's the very definition of arbitrary...because something is A, it
> must be B. Because a person has blue eyes, they must be worthless.
This may be an "arbitrary" decision to set the age of items to 50 years,
but it IS documented and the rule of this particular group. Other
groups have other rules. You as a lawyer should definitely understand
the value and need for rules or guidelines.
> > As a
> > USENET subscriber, you are bound to the rules set forth in these
> > documents, just ask your ISP.
>
> Big deal. There was no newsgroup where this thing (the Bomartan clock) > fit in the umbra, so I went with the nearest penumbra.
It is a big deal. If you feel your item "needs" its own discussion
group, by all means petition to have one created. Might I suggest,
rec.bomartan.clock or in general, rec.collecting.clocks.
For information on how to start a newsgroup go to this website:
http://sunland.gsfc.nasa.gov/info/guide/Newsgroup_Creation.html
> > > The definition
> > > of antique is "anything very old", and whether something is very old
> > > varies with custom, use, and technology.
> >
> > This is true, but again the charter and FAQ explicitly state 50 years or
> > older. Other items that are younger than that age should be discussed
> > in the numerous alt.collecting and rec.collecting newsgroups, provided
> > the item fits the definition explained in those groups charters/FAQs.
> >
> ...and no coloreds at the lunch counter, either.
I am not sure I get your point in making this type of statement. This
is definitely not the same issue.
Some more information about USENET for you to read.
"USENET is a network of computer systems that is being used to share
and propagate a set of special interest electronic discussion groups
called "newsgroups". It is basically a huge bulletin board system.
When you post a message to a particular newsgroup, your message is
relayed and stored on every other USENET computer that carries that
newsgroup."
"FAQ stands for "Frequently Asked Questions". For instance, this
document is a FAQ. It provides a list of commonly asked questions and
answers for a particular newsgroup. The hope (many times in vain) is
that people will read the FAQ before they ask a question and, thereby,
reduce the amount of traffic on the newsgroup dealing with repetitive
issues."
"Before you post to a newsgroup, always read the FAQ first. Usually
they will be posted on a weekly basis. It's also a good idea to read
postings to a newsgroup for about a week before you post. This will
allow you to determine what is, and is not, generally
accepted as a proper posting by the group."
I wish you success in finding information about your clock and/or
creating a discussion group for it.
Jeff
flac...@my-dejanews.com
mcki...@netcomuk.co.uk wrote:
> In rec.antiques, flac...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> >Perhaps I'll give up on logic and just join the lemmings.
> >
>
> ...... leap this way sir.
>
allegiance proudly for all to see, even if it is only for a few seconds.
I've written the world's shortest twisted poem: "Every sparrow; needs an
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flac...@my-dejanews.com
mcki...@netcomuk.co.uk wrote:
> In rec.antiques, flac...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> >Perhaps I'll give up on logic and just join the lemmings.
> >
>
> ...... leap this way sir.
That's the second come-on in as many days...I didn't realize I'd entered a den
of iniquity.
flac...@my-dejanews.com
<26765097DF0EE909.BF8334F4...@library-proxy.airnews.net
>, "Jeffrey A. Kiebler" <je...@NOSPAMgraytechnologies.com> wrote:
> Mark
>
> This may be an "arbitrary" decision to set the age of items to 50 years,
> but it IS documented and the rule of this particular group. Other
> groups have other rules. You as a lawyer should definitely understand
> the value and need for rules or guidelines.
>
Jim Crow was down on paper too. You as a lay person should know that when
lawyers find rules with poor objectives, or that are a poor fit for noble
objectives, they work to trash 'em. Your life has been the better for it.
LeAnne Davis
>
> In article, "Jeffrey A. Kiebler" <je...@NOSPAMgraytechnologies.com> wrote:
>
> > All
> >
> > This "rigid" definition of is explained in the Charter and FAQ of the
> > newsgroup. This distinction, IMHO, has been has not been set
> > arbitrarily. It is in place to eliminate items/collectibles that are of
> > questionable interest (beanies, Avon, junk, etc.)
>
> Whoops. It's the very definition of arbitrary...because something is A, it
> must be B. Because a person has blue eyes, they must be worthless.
bad logic algorithm - go back & review your Aristotelian logic...besides, all
USENET charters are arbitrary - logic doesn't have to (and rarely does) enter
the picture at all - until the CFV (Call For Votes) & then they become the
standard by which the new or newly revised USENET group is to operate The RFD
(Request for Discussion) for r.a (which preceded the CFV & included by
requirement of USENET a charter) defined an antique as an item exceeding 50
years in age (bah, should be over 100, but that my opinion) & that items not at
least 50 years in age should be posted about in a more appropriate venue such as
rec.collecting
> > As a
> > USENET subscriber, you are bound to the rules set forth in these
> > documents, just ask your ISP.
>
> Big deal. There was no newsgroup where this thing (the Bomartan clock) fit in
> the umbra, so I went with the nearest penumbra.
> >
> > > The definition
> > > of antique is "anything very old", and whether something is very old
> > > varies with custom, use, and technology.
nope...the accepted definition of an antique for customs is NOT simply something
very old - the item must be a certain age or it is not an antique
> > This is true, but again the charter and FAQ explicitly state 50 years or
> > older. Other items that are younger than that age should be discussed
> > in the numerous alt.collecting and rec.collecting newsgroups, provided
> > the item fits the definition explained in those groups charters/FAQs.
> >
> ...and no coloreds at the lunch counter, either.
there is no comparison between human civil rights & the definition of an antique
on a global usenet newsgroup
if you don't like the current newsgroup charter, hie thee over to news.groups &
learn how thou might be able to change such a disagreeable document....why is
this so bloomin' difficult to understand?
LeAnne, who sees little has changed since she bailed out of r.a before....
--
LeAnne Davis
Std Disclaimer: These are my opinions, get your own....
http://www.geocities.com/~fannincounty
flac...@my-dejanews.com
wilcox.hall...@sympatico.ca wrote:
> I have seen the thin edge of the wedge before. The FAQS are all that keeps
> this group from becoming just another lowest common denominator FS, WTB,LAMC,
> (Look At My Crap)site.
> I know what to expect to see, talk about antiques as laid out in the FAQ,
> not prattle about the latest issue of collector plates. You don't take
> your outboard to the Canoe club, and you shouldn't expect much positive
> feedback from an antique group regarding a modern clock.
This one was perhaps the best defense I saw, and I won't belabor my counter-
arguments further in the face of this one. Next time I have something
interesting that fits the FAQ, y'all will be hearing from me. My opinion has
been heard, understood, perhaps rejected but not dismissed. I hope I've
conducted myself with good humor and that grudges will be slight.
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flac...@my-dejanews.com
LeAnne Davis <texan_100pct@hotmail_nospamthanksverymuch.com> wrote:
>
> nope...the accepted definition of an antique for customs is NOT simply
something
> very old - the item must be a certain age or it is not an antique
>
Sorry, I must have used an obsolete definition (#1 listing BTW) from my
"antique" (just barely) 1948 Unabridged Webster's. And who let customs in
here?
>> ... and no coloreds at the lunch counter, either.
> there is no comparison between human civil rights & the definition of an
antique on a global usenet newsgroup
My remark was not thought out, and trivialized something heroes died for.
Sorry, and I'll do better next time.
> if you don't like the current newsgroup charter, hie thee over to news.groups
&
> learn how thou might be able to change such a disagreeable document....why is
> this so bloomin' difficult to understand?
It isn't. I should. I've tried to keep my sense of humor and put an end to
these proceedings. But hey, where else was I going to find a bunch of brits
interested in old stuff who might know something about the silly clock by
virtue of interest or geography?
> LeAnne, who sees little has changed since she bailed out of r.a before....
This last one's telling. If you keep having to struggle to hold it together,
it may not be on a solid foundation. The name rec.antiques doesn't say it
all, at least not to everyone, and that may be at least *part* of the
problem. (people with poor interpersonal relations skills like me and
nameless others being the other part).
flac...@my-dejanews.com
LeAnne Davis <texan_100pct@hotmail_nospamthanksverymuch.com> wrote:
> > ...and no coloreds at the lunch counter, either.
>
> there is no comparison between human civil rights & the definition of an
antique
> on a global usenet newsgroup
I said something about Jim Crow in a reply to Jeff, so I need to apologize for
that one too.
Mike Wilcox
>
> In article <36B8A6F9...@sympatico.ca>,
> wilcox.hall...@sympatico.ca wrote:
>
> > I have seen the thin edge of the wedge before. The FAQS are all that keeps
> > this group from becoming just another lowest common denominator FS, WTB,LAMC,
> > (Look At My Crap)site.
> > I know what to expect to see, talk about antiques as laid out in the FAQ,
> > not prattle about the latest issue of collector plates. You don't take
> > your outboard to the Canoe club, and you shouldn't expect much positive
> > feedback from an antique group regarding a modern clock.
>
> This one was perhaps the best defense I saw, and I won't belabor my counter-
> arguments further in the face of this one. Next time I have something
> interesting that fits the FAQ, y'all will be hearing from me. My opinion has
> been heard, understood, perhaps rejected but not dismissed. I hope I've
> conducted myself with good humor and that grudges will be slight.
>
> http://members.aol.com/flacorps
> http://www.delistme.com
>
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> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
Come on back any old time with " Right Stuff " , that's all we ask of
anyone. One thing I might add, when it comes to increases in interest
and value the general rule of thumb is the passing of two generations
before the item starts to " rise in the trade ". If your not going to
bin your clock, stick in storage for another twenty years. Man, I love
this business !
--
Mike Wilcox
"Free Appraisal's are like free beer, they always want more"
Ronnie McKinley
>That's the second come-on in as many days...I didn't realize I'd entered a den
>of iniquity.
>
I've a good dealer pal, he named his shop ... 'The Den of Antiquity'
course he doesn't sell *anything* Pre-The Middle Ages but whose
arguing over definitions anyway? He is not judged by his shop's name
but only by the objects he buys and sells and respected for the fine
eye in his head.
Btw .... a "come-on" (???) ... what do you mean by a .. come-on??
Ronnie McKinley
>One thing I might add, when it comes to increases in interest
>and value the general rule of thumb is the passing of two generations
>before the item starts to " rise in the trade ". If your not going to
>bin your clock, stick in storage for another twenty years. Man, I love
>this business !
Never! Never! Never!
........ if it's crap now, it will still be crap in 30 years, 60 years
or XXXX years ...... The mere passing of time (Ao! Ao!) will not turn
an ugly frog into a handsome Prince .... Now will it Mike? :-)
Man I hate crap, old crap or new crap, it's all the same to me.
Ronnie
=====
"Rubbish in, Rubbish out"
====================
flac...@my-dejanews.com
mcki...@netcomuk.co.uk wrote:
> In rec.antiques, flac...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> >That's the second come-on in as many days...I didn't realize I'd entered a
den
> >of iniquity.
> Btw .... a "come-on" (???) ... what do you mean by a .. come-on??
If you'd known you might not have been so civil. I wasn't aware that that
particular slang expression wasn't worldwide. A "come-on" is a line implying
that the speaker is inviting romantic interest from someone. I believe I got
the first in response to my little gag auction. Of course I really had to
twist your meaning to interpret "... leap right this way", but it was all in
good fun.
I've written the world's shortest twisted poem: "Every sparrow; needs an
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John T Maguire
>In article
><26765097DF0EE909.BF8334F4...@library-proxy.airnews.net
>>, "Jeffrey A. Kiebler" <je...@NOSPAMgraytechnologies.com> wrote:
>
>> Mark
>>
>> This may be an "arbitrary" decision to set the age of items to 50 years,
>> but it IS documented and the rule of this particular group. Other
>> groups have other rules. You as a lawyer should definitely understand
>> the value and need for rules or guidelines.
>>
>Jim Crow was down on paper too. You as a lay person should know that when
>lawyers find rules with poor objectives, or that are a poor fit for noble
>objectives, they work to trash 'em. Your life has been the better for it.
>
>Mark Hankins
You aren't Mr. anteekbear's lawyer, are you?
John T Maguire
Mousam River Software, Mousam River BBS - Home of Mutley's Page!
http://www.mousam-river.com
Visiting Maine? Drop by http://www.kportmaine.com
Ronnie McKinley
>
>LeAnne, who sees little has changed since she bailed out of r.a before....
>--
Ok LeAnne baby, they seem to be ignoring you :)
..... So ... WELCOME home!! ... two in the one week, HEY Charley
you still out there. >;
Seriously, nice to read you LeAnne ... and I see ya still got that
auld house of yours .... how's the drains?
Ronnie
=====
"Leaving the light on"
================
Maryann
>antique
>> on a global usenet newsgroup
I am so glad you owned up to this, Mark. As a southener who was on
the front lines in the civil rights struggle this comparison had me
wondering about your values.
Maryann
flac...@my-dejanews.com
wiz...@mousam-river.com (John T Maguire) wrote:
> You aren't Mr. anteekbear's lawyer, are you?
Wasn't even aware of the critter until your post. I take it he's unpopular,
too?! ;>
Tracy Doyle
flac...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> In article <36B9AC19.57A2CDA9@hotmail_nospamthanksverymuch.com>,
> LeAnne Davis <texan_100pct@hotmail_nospamthanksverymuch.com> wrote:
> >
> > learn how thou might be able to change such a disagreeable document....why is
> > this so bloomin' difficult to understand?
>
> It isn't. I should. I've tried to keep my sense of humor and put an end to
> these proceedings.
Mark,
Methinks thou must be a Democrat. <g>
Tracy
--
To respond via e-mail, remove the characters "NospaM" from the address.
Mike Wilcox
No ,but it would have kept it out of my sight for 20yrs, now you have
spoiled my cunning plan ! :~}
--
Mike Wilcox
" the best laid plans of mice and men ....."
Ronnie McKinley
>If you'd known you might not have been so civil. I wasn't aware that that
>particular slang expression wasn't worldwide. A "come-on" is a line implying
>that the speaker is inviting romantic interest from someone. I believe I got
>the first in response to my little gag auction. Of course I really had to
>twist your meaning to interpret "... leap right this way", but it was all in
>good fun.
>
... are you gay or something?
Ronnie
======
Coming Out Soon Antiques
=====================
flac...@my-dejanews.com
> >twist your meaning to interpret "... leap right this way", but it was all in
> >good fun.
> >
>
> ... are you gay or something?
>
dealers. ;>.
Ronnie McKinley
>No, and I know better than to criticize that lifestyle while amongst antique
>dealers. ;>.
>
You know what Mark, I reckon you would have been poor old OJ's worse
nightmare ...... Geez ain't he relieved, I bet! ;>;>
Ronald
=====
Laurie Brown
>
> In rec.antiques, Mike Wilcox wrote:
>
> >One thing I might add, when it comes to increases in interest
> >and value the general rule of thumb is the passing of two generations
> >before the item starts to " rise in the trade ". If your not going to
> >bin your clock, stick in storage for another twenty years. Man, I love
> >this business !
>
> Never! Never! Never!
>
> ........ if it's crap now, it will still be crap in 30 years, 60 years
> or XXXX years ...... The mere passing of time (Ao! Ao!) will not turn
> an ugly frog into a handsome Prince .... Now will it Mike? :-)
[SNIP]
Except, Ronnie, that that doesn't seem to be true in the US...
Cheers, Laurie.
flac...@my-dejanews.com
mcki...@netcomuk.co.uk wrote:
>
> You know what Mark, I reckon you would have been poor old OJ's worse
> nightmare ...... Geez ain't he relieved, I bet! ;>;>
>
I sure wouldn't have defended him. But I don't think anyone could have gotten
a conviction.
There's been way too much ink spilled over that stupidity. The truth was known
even to the jury that ignored it. If LA hadn't allowed its racial issues to
fester for 30 years, justice would easily have been served.
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flac...@my-dejanews.com
> You know what Mark, I reckon you would have been poor old OJ's worse
> nightmare ...... Geez ain't he relieved, I bet! ;>;>
There's not much in the way of antiques in S. Fla. (locals having a
preference for white laminate furniture with neon, if possible), but what
there is gets no respect. http://www.herald.com/docs/082707.htm ... of
course, this may be more archaeological than antique, but you still get the
flavor...it's in the way of a condo, so there it goes. BTW, there's a better
waterfront building site right up the street already in public hands, and
some fast footwork with the family that long-ago donated it would make
everyone happy, but it's too complicated...
Michele Mauro
era (and their parents, since they kept a lot of old things) that I just
love. Porcelain topped tables, chenille bedspreads, simple maple
furniture, clunky old chandeliers with tons of lusters, pocketwatches,
and even some costume jewelry.
It's the memories that make them collectible, not necessarily the high
quality... the items were made to last, but not necessarily with any
great style to them. <g>
OTOH, there are items from the same time period (mostly the 20's-30's)
that I happen to find butt-ugly too, but then my relatives didn't have
those items, so there's no sentimental value attached to them (Roseville
comes to mind - several relatives got them as wedding gifts I found out
later, but they kept them in the closets). <g>
Have fun, Michele
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Laurie Brown wrote in message <36BAEC4B...@brownowl.com>...
trancery
gotten
a conviction."
Jeez, Mark. I somehow doubt you could have gotten the job.;)
So it's a moot point, eh?
T.
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Michele Mauro
folks came here from somewhere else too, and left all the good junk up
north. <g>
I think the best item to come through our local auction house in a long
time, was an old Cracker chair made of palmwood - really incredible
piece of engineering using the curved base of the leaves - probably less
than 100 years old, but still great looking. I think folks elsewhere
would have fallen down in shock though when it went for over $800! <g>
Have fun, Michele
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flac...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
<79f0m7$rhl$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
Firegifts
>>LeAnne, who sees little has changed since she bailed out of r.a before....
>>--
>
>
>Ok LeAnne baby, they seem to be ignoring you :)
>
> ..... So ... WELCOME home!! ... two in the one week, HEY Charley
>you still out there. >;
>
Ah yes, Ronnie Lad-still out here in Beautiful Michigan. Some former
co-conspirators keep me up to date on the returnees as well as the larger
ex-pat community. Also, I nick into the RA Pub periodically hoping to see that
the kindly older remaining crowd has rediscovered the recipe that made the
joint so popular and the discussions so delicious and usually filling.
Sadly, as exemplified by the silly and useless bandwidth squandering such as is
the subject of this note, the Pub Fare seems to have sunk below Bangers and
Mash. It's now McBangers; "Eh, you want Frits with that?"
Two puzzles endure-why do members stomp out, "never to return", but are back in
a fortnight? And how, for those claiming to be serious collectors or full time
in the trade, (or even honestly employed) have the huge blocks of free time to
pounce on almost every query with an answer (on the subject or not) within
seconds of it's arrival (at least based on the header data) on the 'Net? It
isn't just items that come in from, say 1400 to 1800, but almost 24/7/365
coverage. Either they have a staff that works in shifts or their life revolves
around the 'Net in general, and RA specifically.
All Best-
Charley
Tonquish Creek
Fire...@aol.com
P.S. Sorry you couldn't make it over for Groundhog Day. They make mighty good
eating, almost indistinguishable from a suckling child, and with none of the
paperwork.
Ronnie McKinley
>P.S. Sorry you couldn't make it over for Groundhog Day. They make mighty good
>eating, almost indistinguishable from a suckling child, and with none of the
>paperwork.
>
>
If Candlemas be fair and bright,
Come, Winter, have another flight;
If Candlemas bring clouds and rain,
Go, Winter, and come not again.
flac...@my-dejanews.com
"Michele Mauro" <nos...@ao.net> wrote:
> Mark, Central Florida isn't exactly swimming in antiques either. Most
> folks came here from somewhere else too, and left all the good junk up
> north. <g>
>
> I think the best item to come through our local auction house in a long
> time, was an old Cracker chair made of palmwood - really incredible
> piece of engineering using the curved base of the leaves - probably less
> than 100 years old, but still great looking. I think folks elsewhere
> would have fallen down in shock though when it went for over $800! <g>
Was that Ocala? I've been to an auction house in Ocala, saw some nice things.
Here in Miami, we've got plenty of antique shops, it just seems that what
really does sell here is brand new dreck. And dreck that doesn't age well to
boot.
Our best sources are along Bird Road (and back amongst the warehouses) near
the Palmetto Expressway if you ever get down here; if you're up in Broward,
the Dania area and the warehouses along I-95 in Hallandale/Hollywood are good
prospects too. Much of what we *do* get is containered in from the continent,
or, surprisingly, from Argentina (having started out on the continent). As if
the circle in the stone fiasco isn't bad enough, recently a one-room
schoolhouse that was part of the Ransom School was being "rehabbed" by city
workers (at least until some preservationists spotted what was being done and
stopped it, almost too late).
trancery
gotten
a conviction."
Jeez, Mark. I somehow doubt you could have gotten the job.;)
So it's a moot point, eh?
T
Ok, Mark, I got to thinking that what I said was kind of mean.
So, OK, I will grant you your point on your own say so-
if somehow you got the case, you would have lost it.
LeAnne Davis
>
> Ronnie wrote--
>
> >>LeAnne, who sees little has changed since she bailed out of r.a before....
> >
> >
> > ..... So ... WELCOME home!! ... two in the one week, HEY Charley
> >you still out there. >;
> >
>
> Ah yes, Ronnie Lad-still out here in Beautiful Michigan. Some former
> co-conspirators keep me up to date on the returnees as well as the larger
> ex-pat community. Also, I nick into the RA Pub periodically hoping to see that
> the kindly older remaining crowd has rediscovered the recipe that made the
> joint so popular and the discussions so delicious and usually filling.
>
> Sadly, as exemplified by the silly and useless bandwidth squandering such as is
> the subject of this note, the Pub Fare seems to have sunk below Bangers and
> Mash. It's now McBangers; "Eh, you want Frits with that?"
>
> Two puzzles endure-why do members stomp out, "never to return", but are back in
> a fortnight?
LOL...It's been a bit more than a fortnight for me (prolly a year or so) & quite
honestly, I was lured back when I did a dejanews search for NANAE post that had
aged off my server & noticed that the author (they will know immediately that I
refer to them if they read this post) become active in r.a - curiosity killed
the Leo, I'm afraid...Course, I never said I wouldn't be back, just that I was
leavin'...<grin> nice to see ya Charley....
> And how, for those claiming to be serious collectors or full time
> in the trade, (or even honestly employed) have the huge blocks of free time to
> pounce on almost every query with an answer (on the subject or not) within
> seconds of it's arrival (at least based on the header data) on the 'Net? It
> isn't just items that come in from, say 1400 to 1800, but almost 24/7/365
> coverage. Either they have a staff that works in shifts or their life revolves
> around the 'Net in general, and RA specifically.
LOL...I'm always a day late & a quid short to be one of those 214/7/365ers...
LeAnne, waiting to again become the target of a certain NZer once he's sees I'm
back...
"The Internet is truly a 'global village" and it has its share of village
idiots." TDN
LeAnne Davis
>
> Seriously, nice to read you LeAnne ... and I see ya still got that
> auld house of yours .... how's the drains?
OK, right now...They only seem to have problems when it's time for the family
reunions & I expect large numbers of guests....
LeAnne, who's twice had hire a plumber within 12 hours of a reunion....danged
pecan tree roots....
Mike Wilcox
>
> Ronnie wrote--
>
> >>LeAnne, who sees little has changed since she bailed out of r.a before....
> >
> >
> >Ok LeAnne baby, they seem to be ignoring you :)
> >
> > ..... So ... WELCOME home!! ... two in the one week, HEY Charley
> >you still out there. >;
> >
>
> Ah yes, Ronnie Lad-still out here in Beautiful Michigan. Some former
> co-conspirators keep me up to date on the returnees as well as the larger
> ex-pat community. Also, I nick into the RA Pub periodically hoping to see that
> the kindly older remaining crowd has rediscovered the recipe that made the
> joint so popular and the discussions so delicious and usually filling.
>
> Sadly, as exemplified by the silly and useless bandwidth squandering such as is
> the subject of this note, the Pub Fare seems to have sunk below Bangers and
> Mash. It's now McBangers; "Eh, you want Frits with that?"
>
> Two puzzles endure-why do members stomp out, "never to return", but are back in
> in the trade, (or even honestly employed) have the huge blocks of free time to
> pounce on almost every query with an answer (on the subject or not) within
> seconds of it's arrival (at least based on the header data) on the 'Net? It
> isn't just items that come in from, say 1400 to 1800, but almost 24/7/365
> coverage. Either they have a staff that works in shifts or their life revolves
> around the 'Net in general, and RA specifically.
>
> eating, almost indistinguishable from a suckling child, and with none of the
> paperwork.
Hi Charley, good to hear from you. In answer to the "where do they find
the time question if they are in the trade" , in my own case it's a
matter of time zones. I received a notification regarding my postings,
my son had changed my settings by turning the computer off and on ( he's
only 14 months old) ,according to usernet, I had been answering
questions before they were asked. My son's fiddely fingers had reset my
time zone to pacific time from eastern standard. It must have appeared
to the news group that I had become a telepath. Man, I love this
business!
--
Mike Wilcox
"Free Appraisal's are like free beer, they always want more"
Ronnie McKinley
NO! NO! Mark!!! it is OJ that is suppose to try the glove on.
Holy timebomb! ... QUICK!! QUICK!! .... take off! .... ;>
flac...@my-dejanews.com
"trancery" <tran...@trancestateuniversity.org> wrote:
> So, OK, I will grant you your point on your own say so-
> if somehow you got the case, you would have lost it.
>
Perhaps a few dirty tricks could have won conviction. But would it have been
worth LA burning? Never mind, don't answer that question! ;>
I've written the world's shortest twisted poem: "Every sparrow; needs an
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flac...@my-dejanews.com
The trial tactic error of the century. Geez, you can't trust him not to kill,
how can you trust him to put the glove on right? ... he was, after all, an
actor! Get someone whose hands are the same size, get an expert to testify
about shrinkage, etc., do anything but that foolishness.
> Holy timebomb! ... QUICK!! QUICK!! .... take off! .... ;>
Just think, in 45 years all that OJ memorabilia, the heisman trophy, copies
of "I Want to Tell You" and the veritable spew of other books, videos, etc. on
the subject will still be ... shite. That's the timebomb.
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flac...@my-dejanews.com
mcki...@netcomuk.co.uk wrote:
>
> NO! NO! Mark!!! it is OJ that is suppose to try the glove on.
While we're on the subject of race, perhaps someone here could credit or
debunk a story I've heard of a particularly weasely prospecting technique.
I've heard rumors of antique dealers making a point of becoming friendly with
poor black families in the rural American South. Why? Because such people
were often favored with hand-me-downs from the manors when the wealthy
landowners traded up; and much valuable antique furniture has remained in the
families where it can occasionally be picked up for a pittance.