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Joy

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Dec 27, 2003, 8:36:01 PM12/27/03
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Does anyone know anything about Princeton China? I have a small vase
I picked up at an tag sale. It's cream-colored porcelain/pottery
{?}with gold handles and a stripe of gold around the base. It looks
like a bud vase.

Is Princeton China made in Japan? Or is it made in the U.S.? It is
worth anything?

Thanks,
Joy

T-13

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Dec 27, 2003, 9:22:53 PM12/27/03
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--

Joy, my dear, my lovely, if you are going to go about the tag sales
picking things up (you are paying for them, aren't you?) it would
behoove you to educate yourself, to buy yourself a few books, to learn
to do the dance.

Best Wishes,
T.

Joy

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Dec 28, 2003, 2:06:17 PM12/28/03
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T-13 <as...@asdf.com> wrote in message news:<6bfsuvo877f75rm87...@4ax.com>...

Hi T!

Well, I thought I had learned to dance, LOL! In fact, I'm still
dancing, T. It's just that for every book I purchase, there seems to
be one more I need.

I've never heard of Princeton China in ALL of the books I do have on
pottery. I've a bookcase full as well as depression books. In fact I
have about 20 Gene Florence books and you know, he shows the SAME
THING in all 20. Doesn't he know there are other depression pieces
out there?????

Yes, thank you T, for raising my ethical and moral standards. I never
paid for my tag sale items...until now, you smooth talker! :-)

Love,
Joy

T-13

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Dec 28, 2003, 3:03:47 PM12/28/03
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>Hi T!
>
>Well, I thought I had learned to dance, LOL! In fact, I'm still
>dancing, T. It's just that for every book I purchase, there seems to
>be one more I need.
>
>I've never heard of Princeton China in ALL of the books I do have on
>pottery. I've a bookcase full as well as depression books. In fact I
>have about 20 Gene Florence books and you know, he shows the SAME
>THING in all 20. Doesn't he know there are other depression pieces
>out there?????
>
>Yes, thank you T, for raising my ethical and moral standards. I never
>paid for my tag sale items...until now, you smooth talker! :-)
>
>Love,
>Joy
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Let's see then, Princeton China.

Lehrner's Encyclopedia of US Marks,
not, by the way, one of my favorites, but
you can find the odd mark there from time
to time.

http://www.veederhouse.org/misc/p1.JPG

http://www.veederhouse.org/misc/p2.JPG

Let me know if the photos aren't readable and we will
try, try again.

T.

DBallas464

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Dec 28, 2003, 3:30:30 PM12/28/03
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>> On 27 Dec 2003 17:36:01 -0800, onesw...@cox.net (Joy) wrote:
>>
>> >Does anyone know anything about Princeton China? I have a small vase
>> >I picked up at an tag sale. It's cream-colored porcelain/pottery
>> >{?}with gold handles and a stripe of gold around the base. It looks
>> >like a bud vase.
>> >
>> >Is Princeton China made in Japan? Or is it made in the U.S.? It is
>> >worth anything?
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Joy
>> --
>>
>> Joy, my dear, my lovely, if you are going to go about the tag sales
>> picking things up (you are paying for them, aren't you?) it would
>> behoove you to educate yourself, to buy yourself a few books, to learn
>> to do the dance.
>>
>> Best Wishes,
>> T.
>
>Hi T!
>I've never heard of Princeton China in ALL of the books I do have on
>pottery. I've a bookcase full as well as depression books. In fact I
>have about 20 Gene Florence books and you know, he shows the SAME
>THING in all 20. Doesn't he know there are other depression pieces
>out there?????
>
>Yes, thank you T, for raising my ethical and moral standards. I never
>paid for my tag sale items...until now, you smooth talker! :-)
>
>Love,
>Joy

Hi Joy! Welcome! You seem to have picked up the proper attitude for dealing
with the inhabitants of RA! I applaud your witty response!

I have found the following entry in Lehner's Encyclopedia of US Marks:

"Lipman, Bernard, Company/Princeton China Corporation - New York, New York

In the 1940's and early 1950's there were various listings in the Crockery and
Glass Journal Directories for these companies associated or under the direction
of Bernard Lipman. The Bernard Lipman Company and Princeton China Corporation
had the same address and phone number and were associated, but they were listed
entirely separately in the directories with Lipman as president. In the
article, "Making American China Artware," (staff written, January 194,3
Crockery and Glass Journal, p.6) is a full page of pictures and captions
showing pottery being caste in molds and decored at Princeton China
Corporation. The line of artware was started in 1942. In the Crockery and
Glass Journal Directory, January 1943, p.84, is an article, "New Artware
Decoration," telling that the company was announcing a new style of artware
decoration with embossed designs in relief. Lipman said this was the first
time this specific type of decoration had been used in this country. The style
was French with multicolored florals with gold treatment on satin-like antique
finish backgrounds."

So, to answer your questions:
Princeton China was made in the US, was distributed by Lippman, and is probably
worth what you paid for it! (five finger discount noted)

Lauren


Joy

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Dec 29, 2003, 11:50:17 AM12/29/03
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dball...@aol.com (DBallas464) wrote in message news:<20031228153030...@mb-m27.aol.com>...

So, to answer your questions:
> Princeton China was made in the US, was distributed by Lippman, and is probably
> worth what you paid for it! (five finger discount noted)
>
> Lauren

Hi DBallas. . . and T

Thank you so very much for the information. You unintentionally
identified another item I have, that of a lazy susan. Pretty neat!

Now I'm not so sure the vase I asked about really is Princeton China
because they don't fit the marks that T gave me, but the info. is
great to have.

Just so you'll know what I'm talking about, this is what the vase
looks like.

http://members.cox.net/oneswansong/BudVasGoldCream.jpg

It has a P embedded on the bottom with a number.

Thank you for your time it is very appreciated.

And T, if you're reading this, I'm now going to go on line and order
'another' book. You don't happen to work for Amazon.com do you? LOL!

Joy
:-)

T-13

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Dec 29, 2003, 4:00:49 PM12/29/03
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>Just so you'll know what I'm talking about, this is what the vase
>looks like.
>
>http://members.cox.net/oneswansong/BudVasGoldCream.jpg
>
>It has a P embedded on the bottom with a number.
>
>Thank you for your time it is very appreciated.
>
>And T, if you're reading this, I'm now going to go on line and order
>'another' book. You don't happen to work for Amazon.com do you? LOL!
>
>
>Joy
>:-)
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Can't get the link to your photo to work.

OK, I'll just put a photo of some more marks up.
Normally, I am not so nice, but Jon has just
been kind enough to help me out with my brass
tray, so....

Just a P? Hmmmm....

These are all the plain P marks in Kovels' New Dictionary of Marks.

http://www.veederhouse.org/misc/pmarks.JPG

As far as books of marks go, I've found that that Kovels' book is
not bad. It's got flaws but it does a fairly good job of covering
the European stuff as well as the American stuff. You're right
about books, Joy. No matter how many you have, you never have enough.
Really, you need them ALL. Every durn one that was ever published.

T.

mk...@sc.tds.net

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Dec 30, 2003, 8:45:51 AM12/30/03
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>In fact I
>have about 20 Gene Florence books and you know, he shows the SAME
>THING in all 20. Doesn't he know there are other depression pieces
>out there?????


Sometimes I feel as if Mr. Florence is a little greedy--just updating
the price list every few years so that some dealers feel they have to
buy the new edition in order to know what to charge the public. He
does add a few little bits of new stuff (to give the devil his due).
Do you have Hazel Weatherman's book "Colored Glassware of the
Depression Era 2? Great book--long out of print and therefore a
little pricey but tons of information.

Maryann

"Anything can be anywhere!"


Joy

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Dec 31, 2003, 2:16:50 PM12/31/03
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mk...@sc.tds.net wrote in message news:<3ff1800f...@news.tds.net>...

> >In fact I
> >have about 20 Gene Florence books and you know, he shows the SAME
> >THING in all 20. Doesn't he know there are other depression pieces
> >out there?????
>
>
Do you have Hazel Weatherman's book "Colored Glassware of the
Depression Era 2? Great book--long out of print and therefore a
little pricey but tons of information.

Maryann
"Anything can be anywhere!"

Hi Maryann!
Yes, I found one, and it is pricey, but I'm going to buy it anyway as
I don't want T-13 to get mad at me. He said he's not normally nice,
so, I'm not taking any chances. "T" sounds a bit like that character
on NYPDBlue, [Andy Sipowitz]. Grouchy, but with a good heart. :-)

Thanks for the advice.

There's another book I want, but off-hand I can't recall the name.
It's Lehrer's or Lenhers or something? Anyway, one book at time.

Joy

DBallas464

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Dec 31, 2003, 6:31:25 PM12/31/03
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>There's another book I want, but off-hand I can't recall the name.
>It's Lehrer's or Lenhers or something? Anyway, one book at time.
>
>Joy

Hi Joy,

Lehner's is readily available at most large chain book stores such as Barnes &
Noble or Borders.

Good Luck!

Lauren

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