Victorian or Art Nouveau Girl Box?
ucvalue
Help..
I really don't have a clue about this item.
Well not much at least...
Would be curious if someone with more experience could offer some
insight as to what, where, when and or value?
http://www.mindspring.com/~jules77/girl.html
The box is about 5 to 7 inches across, and weights a hefty 5.5 lbs.
Very dense...
No markings that I can see, however the bottom has felt that may have
been added later.
I assume if there is mark its under there?
And head? What kind of material is it?
Thanks... sorry to be so clueless but I've searched the net and
searched and I come up with ZERO....
Regards,
Paul
Kris Baker
"ucvalue" <paul...@mac.com> wrote in message
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You need to take the felt off the bottom and look for marks.
I'm assuming it's metal. You might have to take a single-edged
razor blade and gently separate the felt from the base.
The figure looks, to me, like a 1920s flapper (on some sort of
"memory box" made between the 1920s and 1960s). But
that's because only your first image is clear.
Kris
ucvalue
>"memory box" made between the 1920s and 1960s). But
I don't see that at all....
The collar and the wide hips don't really appear to be flapper
fashions, but thanks for the input.
FYI, more than the first picture is "clear" some are just darker...
Maybe time for a new video card?
Kris Baker
Maybe I have a brand new computer and your images are fuzzy?
Kris
Andy Dingley
>FYI, more than the first picture is "clear" some are just darker...
No, you need to learn to focus, or else use a camera with a decent macro
facility. As it seems to be light-related, maybe a smaller aperture (by
better lighting) would help.
>Maybe time for a new video card?
Maybe time for a killfile.
It's neither Victorian nor Art Nouveau, and the period is very obvious
from the style. However you clearly know everything, so you already knew
that.
Kris Baker
"Andy Dingley" <din...@codesmiths.com> wrote in message
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It also looks like someone painted it silver, then tried to dab on
fake green verdigris. But it could be my brand-new computer
and top-of-the-line monitor that make it look that way ;)
Kris
Jessica V.
Is it just me or does the girl look like she's had a bit too much Bayer
Heroin? Appears to be made from pot metal, any marks on the bottom?
She may be the long lost mate of my nude drunk passed out on chanti
bottle lamp.
Jessica
Kris Baker
"Jessica V." <jeilee...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Thus explaining why the OP used the term "Girl Box".
Kris ;)
ucvalue
>facility. As it seems to be light-related, maybe a smaller aperture (by
>better lighting) would help.
I can try using a smaller aperture setting, I have had really hard
times taking close up pictures of anything.
This is a newer Canon the replacement for my old A70 and its clearly
not as good as the old A70, which is on the blink...
>It's neither Victorian nor Art Nouveau, and the period is very obvious
>from the style. However you clearly know everything, so you already knew
Some people can't take a joke..
I was just fooling a bit I know most of the pictures are pretty
awful...
ucvalue
I guess that's possible, pot metal contains lead right? That would
explain the weight...
I've got to remove the felt to determine if there are any markings,
I've been holding off doing that...
ucvalue
>fake green verdigris.
I don't know if they tried to paint it green to make it look older they
did a pretty horrible job...
I thought it was fairly old, but I basically bought it cause I liked
it.. for some strange reason...
Its just "off-beat" and that's what drew me to it...
>But it could be my brand-new computer
>and top-of-the-line monitor that make it look that way ;)
Could be.... my new notebook is HP/Compaq and god knows since the
merger they've blown chunks...
Forest Duck
>the figurine. Is the color that different??
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I couldn't think of a nice way to comment on that.
M.
Forest Duck
"Ronnie McKinley" <nospa...@nowhere.net.org> wrote in message
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> In rec.antiques "Forest Duck" <fork...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>The head looks out of place. It just does not look to fit with the rest
>>>of
>>>the figurine. Is the color that different??
>
> the following. Cold painted bronze with an ivory head (and arms) etc.,
>
> http://www.endymion.co.uk/art-deco-sculptures4.html
>
>
> ... however, in this case, the OP's figure is probably plastic and spelter
> (or plastic with iron or alloy) in extremely poor condition.
>
>
>
> --
> Ronnie
Hi quite man.
It almosts looks like they cut the head off of your example and glued it to
the other. Ha!
Merry Ho,HO.
Kris Baker
"Marshall Schuon" <pedd...@ptd.net> wrote in message
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Thank you. I've been a bad, bad, girl.
Kris
Tim Mullen
>It is trying to imitate a 'bronze and ivory' figure, such as the style in
>the following. Cold painted bronze with an ivory head (and arms) etc.,
>http://www.endymion.co.uk/art-deco-sculptures4.html
Dumb question: was this really ivory? As in the tusk stuff?
I've seen plenty of pictures of these, but have rarely looked
at, and never handled, the actual objects. Before now I'd always
assumed it was simply painted. Beautiful sculptures!
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Tim Mullen
>In rec.antiques Tim Mullen <t...@panix.com> wrote:
>> Dumb question: was this really ivory? As in the tusk stuff?
>>I've seen plenty of pictures of these, but have rarely looked
>>at, and never handled, the actual objects. Before now I'd always
>>assumed it was simply painted. Beautiful sculptures!
>Yes - the high-end bronze examples are most certainly ornamented with ivory
>additions - the "tusk stuff" as in carved elephant, walrus, or narwhal etc.,
I never knew that. Thanks.
>http://www.ericknowles.co.uk/femmesfatales/index.php
>Painted or simulated is not usually associated with bronze but found with
>(as already stated) spelter, iron/steel, or some other mass-quality zinc type
>alloys - the ivory parts being replaced with the likes of ivorine (plastic),
>resin or simply (simulated) painted
> .... compare the above with the following.
>http://www.glenbourne-antiques.fsnet.co.uk/swanlady.htm
>These examples are my own. Simulated pieces. Not spelter, but at the same
>time, not bronze. These typical examples don't make the 1000s that bronze
>examples would but certainly sell well enough, depending on quality and
>condition.
Very nice. The face and hands are painted, right? Considering the
one sculpture I've always known and loved on the first page is clocking
fifteen kilopounds, any recommendations for reasonable repros (old or
<gasp> new) of these? Say, in the low hundreds or so?
Andy Dingley
wrote:
> Dumb question: was this really ivory? As in the tusk stuff?
In the early examples it's elephant ivory. Later ones (the cheap
mass-market ones anyway) could be all sorts of freshly-invented plastics
as well, some of which survive better than others. The one thing they
don't seem to have used to make them is non-elephant ivory, such as
mammoth or hippo teeth. If you do find mammoth, chances are it's modern.