"English Abbey" Dinnerware
jan
"English Abbey", with no other identification. I've been looking for some
inexpensive vintage dinnerwear for everyday, and was charmed by the design.
I know that they were made in both blue and red, and must have been a rather
common pattern, as you see them around quite often.
If you want to see what the pattern looks like, there is currently a plate,
(not mine), on "that auction site":
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=83030161
I've also seen the same transfer used on later plain, flat plates with no
raised design.
I'm guessing that these were cheap, mass-produced pieces, but would like to
know their age and origin.
Thanks,
Jan
Michael Dougherty
out who made it or where. Seems to be a mystery pattern - but oh so
charming :)
Good Luck,
Lydia P-D
Apple10
If my memory isn't failing me, English
Abbey was producted by TST pottery of
E. Liverpool, OH. That would be Taylor,
Smith Taylor. They are best known for the
LuRay pastel line.
If my brain has slipped a cog, it is ONE of
the E. Liverpool Potters who made this, so
might be Knowles or KTK or W.S. George.
Mostly certain it is TST, have no idea of
date, but probably mid 1930's.
Gillam Kerley
>
> Jan, et al---
> If my memory isn't failing me, English
> Abbey was producted by TST pottery of
> E. Liverpool, OH. That would be Taylor,
> Smith Taylor.
Replacements Ltd. lists "English Abbey" as a Taylor Smith Taylor
pattern.
GK
Michael Dougherty
:) I usually collect pieces that are much older, but English Abbey had
these cute little sheep in the foreground...
I'll lob in a question of my own if that's OK with everyone - my
favourite piece of transferware is a cup and saucer done in a sort of
smudgy light blue (not flow blue). The pattern name is 'Watteau' from
Ashworth Brothers. Has anyone else ever seen this pattern? I love the
elegant ladies in their swings and bouquets (sadly no sheep tho'), but
have never been able to find more info on the pattern.
The cup and saucer also happen to be the last undocumented pieces in my
collection...
Lydia P-D
Apple10
I guess I still have half a brain left after all!
Gillam Kerley
The pattern name is 'Watteau' from
> Ashworth Brothers. Has anyone else ever seen this pattern? I love the
> elegant ladies in their swings and bouquets (sadly no sheep tho'), but
> have never been able to find more info on the pattern.
No info on the pattern, but G.L. Ashworth & Bros., of Hanley, England,
founded 1862, began using "Ashworth Bros." in its mark (with a crown
and banner) ca. 1880s. Still in business as of the 1960s.
GK
Smorgass Bored
(*<~ LOL Yep,I've seen it.... About 6 years ago I attended an
auction where they auctioned off a HUGE (though incomplete) set of brown
transfer Watteau by Mason's Ironstone (a pattern that was said to have
be discontinued in 1852. They auctioned it off seperately, 11 cups, 12
saucers, 9 bowls,1 tureen,etc.,etc.,etc....
The fellow behind me was the top bidder on each item and was compiling
his set for quite a bit of money,SO,when they got to the 10 1/2" dinner
plates......... I BID. I fought him hard and I was the 'winner' at
$11.00 each for the 'only 7' dinner plates. My wife had been elbowing me
the entire time and finally asked what in the hell I was going to do
with 7 dinner plates while the fellow behind me owned everything else. I
replied that the 'proper' question is WHAT could he do with a set with
NO dishes and I planned to hold them ransom for a much higher price when
he came to his senses.
Well,he packed up all his purchases and loaded his truck and headed
back to the midwest and I never saw or heard from him again and I STILL
HAVE THOSE DAMNED PLATES.
I'd have my money back tenfold if someone would just pay me a dime for
each time my wife has said, " I told you so "........
Aaaaaarrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!
Doug W.
~>*)))>< Big fish eat Little fish ><(((*<~
Gillam Kerley
>
> Michael asks if anyone else has seen the Watteau pattern...........
>
> (*<~ LOL Yep,I've seen it.... About 6 years ago I attended an
> auction where they auctioned off a HUGE (though incomplete) set of brown
> transfer Watteau by Mason's Ironstone (a pattern that was said to have
> be discontinued in 1852.
From Chaffers' Marks & Monograms on Pottery & Porcelain:
"C.J. Mason became bankrupt in 1848. Francis Morley of Shelton
purchased many of the Mason molds and copper plates. . . . The greater
part of the Mason designs and working material was, however,
subsequently passed to G.L. ashworth & Bros. by the partnership between
Morley & Ashworth. Messrs. Ashworth, moving on modern lines have
maintained the traditions of the past and for the past 100 years
manufactured 'Mason's Ironstone' earthenware, often with the old
traditional patterns."
Lydia described her cup and saucer as an Ashworth Bros. product, which
would make it post-1862, according to my references.
Anyhow, Lydia, can you post a description of the backstamp on your item;
perhaps that will cast some further light on the matter.
GK
jan
Gillam Kerley wrote in message <7e0vnv$6...@newsops.execpc.com>...
>Apple10 wrote:
>>
>> Jan, et al---
>> If my memory isn't failing me, English
>> Abbey was producted by TST pottery of
>> E. Liverpool, OH. That would be Taylor,
>> Smith Taylor.
>
>Replacements Ltd. lists "English Abbey" as a Taylor Smith Taylor
>pattern.
>
>GK
Thanks, everybody!
Jan
Michael Dougherty
mark:
'Ashworth Brothers' arced across the top of the fan thing, all capitals.
'Watteau' written inside a weird scalloped feather fan shape.
'England' under the fan, which narrows down the date :)
Thanks,
Lydia P-D
Gillam Kerley
>
> Thanks so much for the info everyone - here is a description of the
> mark:
>
> 'Ashworth Brothers' arced across the top of the fan thing, all capitals.
> 'Watteau' written inside a weird scalloped feather fan shape.
> 'England' under the fan, which narrows down the date :)
Nothing like this is shown in Godden's; most of the turn of the century
marks had crowns. No weird scalloped fan shapes.
GK
Michael Dougherty
crown, it looks just like a ladies feather fan (even has a little
handle). Guess I'm going to still have a 'mystery piece' after all, but
thanks very much for your help!
Lydia P-D
Double D Auction
Could that fan actually be a clamshell? G.L. Ashworth & Brothers
are a member of Wedgwood, were formerly Ridgway & in the late
1950's were Mason's Ironstone (which used the clamshell mark).
Debbie
Michael Dougherty
would have to be a little weird looking, but this is transferware after
all :) I am positive the cup and saucer date earlier than the 1950s,
but I now have some new leads to delve into!
Thanks for the info,
Lydia P-D