Old beer bottle, RINGOOT & CO.??????

[thierry Papion]

Dear newsgroup members,

While diving in Bedford Basin, a diving buddy of mine found six Dark
Amber Lightning stopper embossed bottles all dumped in one area. The
bottles are quite old

Full description:

Size: 9.5 inches height , base 2.5 inches in diameter and pushed inward
Applied lip with two depressed hole for the lightning stopper
Made in a two part mold with seam vanishing before the lip
Embossed with: J RINGOOT & CO in a semi arc
Glass color: Dark red Amber
Lettering size: 3/4 inch in height

The bottles appear to be pre-1880's. I have no idea on the origin
(???) The bottles were not turned inside the mold since the seam marks
can be seen all the way to the bottom of the bottle.

Does anyone out there seen this bottle or have it in their collection?

Any info on this find is welcome.

Cheers

Thierry G. Papion
Halifax, Nova Scotia

[Pristis]

Hello, Thierry,
That is a nice six-pack your friend found. I don't recognize the bottle,
but I can add something about the Lightning stopper.
According to Cecil Munsey, the Lightning Stopper was invented by Charles
de Quillfeldt of New York City in 1875. These stoppers (and variants Electric
Stopper and Pittsburgh Stopper) were used extensively on beer bottles until
circa 1915, and are still popular closures in foreign countries today.
Hope this helps.
- - - - Harry Pristis

[thierry Papion]

Dear Harry,

Thanks for the info. I did have some of this information in one of my book. I am
trying to figure out if this bottle is British or American. The name RINGOOT does
not ring a bell.
The bottle is definitively pre-1900. I must get a web page put up to show you some
of the finds we make.

Cheers

Thierry G. Papion

[Joe Romanson]

Hello Thierry:

I've never heard of this company either but wonder whether it may
originate from continental Europe. The surname "Ringoot" appears to be
Belgian (based on some archive data I found), so it may be that the
company could have been based in Belgium or perhaps even in France or
The Netherlands. I know that Halifax Harbour has been used for centuries
by ships from all over the world, so it is possible the bottles may have
been discarded from a passing ship originating from one of these
countries.

I understand also that the Harbour has been mapped/surveyed in recent
years regarding the many wrecks in the area, and I wonder whether there
are any documented wrecks near the area where these bottles were found.
I could be completely wrong too with my theory, but if anything it adds
a little mystery to the possibilities. Good luck in your research, and
let us know if you find out anything... Joe :)

[vp2...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, May 24, 2000 8:00:00 AM UTC+1, thierry Papion wrote:
> Dear newsgroup members,
>
> While diving in Bedford Basin, a diving buddy of mine found six Dark
> Amber Lightning stopper embossed bottles all dumped in one area. The
> bottles are quite old
>
> Full description:
>
> Size: 9.5 inches height , base 2.5 inches in diameter and pushed inward
> Applied lip with two depressed hole for the lightning stopper
> Made in a two part mold with seam vanishing before the lip
> Embossed with: J RINGOOT & CO in a semi arc
> Glass color: Dark red Amber
> Lettering size: 3/4 inch in height
>
> The bottles appear to be pre-1880's. I have no idea on the origin
> (???) The bottles were not turned inside the mold since the seam marks
> can be seen all the way to the bottom of the bottle.
>
>
> Does anyone out there seen this bottle or have it in their collection?
>
> Any info on this find is welcome.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Thierry G. Papion
> Halifax, Nova Scotia

Recently (May 2013) dug up a similarly sized and lettered & intact green glass bottle in our garden in North Lincolnshire in UK. No stopper with it. This property used to be a farm pre WW2. Also found British pennies dating early 20th century still neatly stacked in soil near the bottle.

[arnedem...@gmail.com]

Op woensdag 24 mei 2000 09:00:00 UTC+2 schreef thierry Papion:

> Dear newsgroup members,
>
> While diving in Bedford Basin, a diving buddy of mine found six Dark
> Amber Lightning stopper embossed bottles all dumped in one area. The
> bottles are quite old
>
> Full description:
>
> Size: 9.5 inches height , base 2.5 inches in diameter and pushed inward
> Applied lip with two depressed hole for the lightning stopper
> Made in a two part mold with seam vanishing before the lip
> Embossed with: J RINGOOT & CO in a semi arc
> Glass color: Dark red Amber
> Lettering size: 3/4 inch in height
>
> The bottles appear to be pre-1880's. I have no idea on the origin
> (???) The bottles were not turned inside the mold since the seam marks
> can be seen all the way to the bottom of the bottle.
>
>
> Does anyone out there seen this bottle or have it in their collection?
>
> Any info on this find is welcome.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Thierry G. Papion
> Halifax, Nova Scotia

Hello, The bottel is belgium, Brussel.
Also found the same bottel of german dumps off the first world war.
So 1914/18 area.
grt piet

[pauladri...@hotmail.com]

Hello Thierry

This afternoon I dug up a bottle in my back garden labeled "J Ringoot & C° Cassem Anvers" in acid etch. Anvers is Antwerp in French, Ringoot is a rather rare Flemish name. (That the bottle was labeled in French at the time is not surprising, as French had a ring of aristocracy.)
The house was built in 1924, if that means anything for the bottle ...
No idea about the "Cassem" though. It's a family name, not too Flemish sounding.
Can I send you a pic?