State Of Decay 2 Crash

[Mireille Kreines]

Ive owned the RX 5700XT for the past 2.5 years, specifically XFX RX 5700XT THICC III Ultra and ever since I've bought it I've had 3-5 daily crashes, sometimes I can go a day or two without any, but 95% of the time it crashes. I've tried multiple solutions but none of them worked so I'm hoping y'all can help me figure it out.

What I've tried so far:

Please note: AMD was trying to compete with nvidia on RX 5000 series cards.

This means: All RX 5000 series cards are overclocked by default!

This might be number one reason for your black screen crashes.

(Because your GPU clock might spike too high)

First of all, please take some time and read through this topic from 2020:

ASRock RX 5700 XT Challenger Pro (triple fan)

- it has some details on my journey and all the problems with my card, when it was new

- There I also mentioned that Radeon Software Features were causing crashes for me.

things that will crash the card:

- Radeon Anti Lag, Boost, Chill, Enhanced Sync, Image Sharpening when they are enabled

- which means: only use the Standard profile and don't touch "gaming", "eSports" or "energy saver"

If all of that does not help, start by using 1100 mV and see if that is stable for you.

Your card might be undervolted too much - undervolting can also lead to black screens.

(remember to check the "crash types and reasons" post I made) ^^

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side note: those problems are the main reason why I am not using Radeon Software.

I had huge issues with flickering screen while gaming.

Most of the times it would flicker for 30 seconds and then crash.

As soon as I switched to "driver only" install, the flickering was gone.

I've also checked the thermal paste and it seems fine since the delta is 10 however I've noticed that when doing a 30min stress test and generally when playing my fan is sitting around 700-1.2k RPM *seems a bit to low*, sometimes spiking up to 1.5k but rarely and the temperature is generally sitting at around 85-89 hitting 90 maybe once every 30 min. The highest I've seen it spike without crashing was up to 96, but I'm pretty sure that was due to fans being at as low as 500 RPM.

Regarding the GPU core clock however I tired setting it 1950 MHz and 1100mv, but after like 5 mins of playing it already crashed, I tired setting it 1900MHz with 1050mv and it seemed fine for the time I played, no crashes and no performance loss.

However one question does come to mind, when you say GPU clock spike too high, do you mean it generally sitting at around 2100MHz as a "spike too high" or when it goes from let's say 1000MHz to 2100MHz that you consider a "spike too high" causing a crash?

Core was sitting at 2050-2100MHz at all times but wasn't spiking up or down so I couldn't figure out if that was the crash cause, temperatures were sitting at around 85-91 with 700-1.5k RPM. Delta was 10.

UPDATE: For the first time ever, my PC just black screen crashed whilst just using it normally, not even gaming or having any game running, a bit strange, but happened after the tuning.

My card can stay at 1980 MHz for hours, but still crashes randomly.

That is why I tuned it like ASRock recommends: Game Clock around 1800 MHz

My personal daily use profile is: 1840 MHz at 943 mV

- which is generating less heat, uses less power and still runs all my games at 60 FPS

- please note: I can not recommend these exact settings for your make and model

- you can try them - but you have to see if they work for your card

My personal guess is: it is either driver related (driver switching between power states)

or it is the GPU chip becoming unstable above its rated manufacturer specs.

(I do not understand why AMD decided to use 2100 MHz at 1200 mv as driver default!)

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Side note: I can force my card to crash within 5 minutes (each time) when:

- I use a low fan RPM and hot spot temp goes above 90C

- so it seems like my card can not handle the high temps

- I already opened the card and used high quality (new) thermal paste and memory pads

- the repaste and new pads improved performance and stability (and lowered temps)

- but card still crashes above 90C within 5 minutes

- this is why I use aggressive fan curve to stay below 85C (to be safe ^^)

I hope you can get your card to be more stable in the future.

It took me some time of trial and error to get my own card to run stable.

But it has been a long time since my last black screen / D3D device lost crash.

I've posted an update on my previous reply, as you replied to it, so I'm gonna assume you didn't read it, but basically my PC, for the first time ever, just black screen crashed whilst using it normally. By normally I mean no games running in the background and just working on some stuff, which is very odd because even before tweaking it never did that, any ideas as to why?

The only situation where an increased P1 frequency and voltage can help:

older games or CPU bound games, where you want higher GPU frequency

older games might use just a few % of your GPU, whichs leads to low frequency.

You might be able to improve performance for those game (or get rid of stuttering)

by tweaking the P1 frequency and voltage.

OMG, thank u guys so very much for this post. I have a MSI RX 5700XT (Founders Edition). I have had mine on day 1 when they were released. So I have had thee most up & down experiences w/ this card. 1 day it's like I can tweak this thing to the fullest & it seems like it won't crash. But there's other days where I can't get the darn thing to run for more than 10 minutes. I custom water-cooled mine rig so the heat problem wasn't exactly a problem. As a matter of fact, I don't believe I have ever seen this card above 68C. Normally though I can stress test around 48C-54C give or take 1 mhz or 2. N-E-way, I snapped & almost gave up when I couldn't run Witcher 2 or Halo MC edition! Seriously? I should be able to run Max settings for both of those games being older titles. Or close to it. Couldn't even run them on the lowest settings without crashing after 15 minutes. Couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong. I didn't understand why people said that Ryzen 9 3900X I was overkill for the RX 5700 XT. From what I understand during that time that was the perfect dynamic duo. I've never had problems bottlenecking. At least not very much depending on what settings are. I tried everything with settings for my CPU tried to lower to just base 3800mhz in case it was overkill. But it didn't matter. At least not on my system it didn't. Then I read this article about such and such being too much and such and such being plenty. I would like to think that I am more in the advanced stages of PC knowledge. I wouldn't say I'm a master but I definitely say I'm more advanced than the average person. With that being said I was oblivious to knowing about settings in which they come with when you plug and play. I had no idea absolutely no idea that these cards were overclocked already out of the box. I just set my settings to almost identical to these ones as the THICC & founders numbers are almost identical. I just want to thank you guys. One for posting this article. In the other for the solution. I've been running this card stress test going on 6 hours now and it's not even breaking a sweat at these settings. I absolutely love you guys! Sorry about the long novel I just had to tell you guys how grateful and how much I appreciate you taking the time to post the problem and the tech to taking the time to giving a solution. I like to think that I still have a pretty good system after a few years.

Again sorry about the long novel guys. Just grateful and pretty proud of my build being a proud member of the PC Master-Race & all. You guys know how it is yes save up every dime you have to get something halfway decent or beautiful. Anyway again sorry I just really wanted to put this out there.

Signed up just to say thank you to RPX100 for taking the time to comment on this with your advice and to Nex1 for taking the time to make the post!

I've suffered with my Nitro+ for years but ended up playing less GPU-intense games so hadn't been too bothered lately, until trying to play BG3 and barely making any headway before crash after crash.

A few days ago I switched to driver only rather than using Radeon Software as RPX100 suggested and scaled back to 1800MHz at 1050mV and so far so good!! Have been playing for up to a few hours at a time with zero crashes, bit absurd the hoops needed to jump through to get to a state of just being able to play a great game but again thank you for taking the time to post on here!

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