Initial impressions
Daniel Clark
Just a few initial impressions:
* On initial signup (I could be wrong here,as I was rather tired when
I did this), you get prompted to install the Firefox extension before
you enter a password - if you then restart Firefox when prompted to by
the extensions installer, you need to find and use the password
recovery page.
* For some reason all of the messages coming from rcache.com got
marked as spam (not sure if anything can be done on your end about
this, but you might want to put in a "please whitelist XXX and check
your spam folder" type verbiage)
* I have my Firefox set up with minimum font sizes - this causes the
rCache web interface to look ugly (overlapping top nav buttons).
rCache also seems to disable the "increase/decrease font size"
functionality (ctrl-/ctrl+), which is bad for accessibility reasons
(low vision users etc).
* The display showing the cached content shows annoyingly little
content per screen - the gray bars on either side on my display are
each about as large as the content display column.
Cheers,
-Dannt
Daniel Clark
vast majority of browsers for like $20, so I don't understand why the
site uses a self-signed cert.
david...@gmail.com
posting to the Google Group. Sorry for the spam.
Right now there is a manual process for approving rCache accounts, I
did not process your account untill about 10 hours after you requested
it. You did uncover a bug for mr though, as you were able to get in by
requesting a password reset, how amateur of me:)
You do not have to enter any kind of password to install the rCache
Collector extension. FF should just ask for approval from you.
The CSS issue is a difficult case. If you are overriding the CSS that
was created for rCache (via FF settings), I may not be able to
"correct" my CSS for all cases. I would like to see how it looks
though.
The narrow rCache content area is set to 600 pixels for easy
readability. I would like to play with it via percentages, just see if
it is workable.
I will have to add a notice about SPAM whitelisting for sure.
The SSL cert is a SAGA. I did buy a "real" cert, but it was still
prompting me for authorization each time. Know any good, inexpensive
Cert providers?
Thanks for your feedback! Keep it coming.
David
Daniel Clark
> You do not have to enter any kind of password to install the rCache
> Collector extension. FF should just ask for approval from you.
Yeah, that worked fine - I think I just didn't explain myself well
enough - I did not know about the manual approval, so I assumed there
would be a step after the Firefox extension install that asked me for
a password, and I thought that by doing the extension install and
restarting Firefox, and thereby losing my place in the registration
process, I had lost the ability to set my initial password.
> The CSS issue is a difficult case. If you are overriding the CSS that
> was created for rCache (via FF settings), I may not be able to
> "correct" my CSS for all cases. I would like to see how it looks
> though.
No problem, I'll get a screen shot up when I'm back at that computer.
> The narrow rCache content area is set to 600 pixels for easy
> readability. I would like to play with it via percentages, just see if
> it is workable.
That would be cool; or you could just add that (screen % use, and
maybe an absolute max) as a user preference.
> The SSL cert is a SAGA. I did buy a "real" cert, but it was still
> prompting me for authorization each time. Know any good, inexpensive
> Cert providers?
The inexpensive certs you usually need to add a chain cert and then do
some apache conf - so whatever you had should be able to be made to
work - but if you'd like to just buy one that is easier to use, the
cheapest provider of non-chained certs I know of is http://www.namecheap.com/index.asp
- there was a good email thread on cheap SSL cert providers up on the
SAGE mailing list; unfortunately their archives seem to be broken, but
I just stuck it in rCache under the tag "ssl" and added you as a
colleague :-) -- that is also a good argument for letting people say
"I don't want no stinking borders"; as you'll see staggered email text
is hard to read.
I personally use GoDaddy for my cheap certs, but that's just because I
didn't know about the above provider at the time I needed to order
certs (and before I knew how objectionable GoDaddy was politically).
> Thanks for your feedback! Keep it coming.
You are very welcome... I sound like I have a lot of complaints, but
really I am loving the service... I think I posted like 20 things
already today, I put up http://trac.mcs.anl.gov/projects/bcfg2/wiki/UsingRcache
, and I'm trying to get some colleagues at work to use it (we'll be
researching web frameworks soon).
BTW I'm sure this is something you've already thought of, but
"Colleague Groups" would be a useful feature (vs. having to ask N
people to become your colleagues)
Daniel Clark
should really go through the language-you-implement-rcache in (BTW
what is that?) equivalent of "sort | uniq".
> cheapest provider of non-chained certs I know of ishttp://www.namecheap.com/index.asp
> - there was a good email thread on cheap SSL cert providers up on the
> SAGE mailing list; unfortunately their archives seem to be broken, but
> I just stuck it in rCache under the tag "ssl" and added you as a
> colleague :-) -- that is also a good argument for letting people say
> "I don't want no stinking borders"; as you'll see staggered email text
> is hard to read.
>
> I personally use GoDaddy for my cheap certs, but that's just because I
> didn't know about the above provider at the time I needed to order
> certs (and before I knew how objectionable GoDaddy was politically).
>
> > Thanks for your feedback! Keep it coming.
>
> You are very welcome... I sound like I have a lot of complaints, but
> really I am loving the service... I think I posted like 20 things
> already today, I put uphttp://trac.mcs.anl.gov/projects/bcfg2/wiki/UsingRcache
david...@gmail.com
written in Python and of course the FF extension is Mozilla/Javascript/
XUL. I need to also add buttons to remove links and images that are
not wanted on the frontend, in the FF extension. I would like to store
the images in the database, but have not thought about it enough yet.
So much to do.
david...@gmail.com
What a waste. I installed it and I could not get rid of the nag dialog
about SSL. This is a high priority.
Colleague groups is a great idea, I was thinking about tagging your
colleagues, and then applying your research tag set/keyword set to
that tag. (which is pretty much the same thing.)
Keep it coming! thanks!
David
On Mar 2, 3:22 pm, "Daniel Clark" <djbcl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I personally use GoDaddy for my cheap certs, but that's just because I
> didn't know about the above provider at the time I needed to order
> certs (and before I knew how objectionable GoDaddy was politically).
>
> > Thanks for your feedback! Keep it coming.
>
> You are very welcome... I sound like I have a lot of complaints, but
> really I am loving the service... I think I posted like 20 things
> already today, I put uphttp://trac.mcs.anl.gov/projects/bcfg2/wiki/UsingRcache
Daniel Clark
> Godaddy was the vendor that sold me an essentially self-signed cert.
> What a waste. I installed it and I could not get rid of the nag dialog
> about SSL. This is a high priority.
To use the cert, you need to download the intermediate
"sf_issuing.crt" cert from their site, and then set up apache like
this:
SSLEngine on
SSLCertificateFile /etc/apache2/ssl/opensysadmin-com/
sitename.com.crt
SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/apache2/ssl/opensysadmin-com/
sitename.com-nopasswd.key
SSLCertificateChainFile /etc/apache2/ssl/sf_issuing.crt
Where the last line is what you probably don't have yet.
> Keep it coming! thanks!
I think I may be about tapped out for now :-)
Hmm, OpenID support might be nice... There is a Python toolkit to use
it I'm pretty sure (I know there is a Trac plugin).
david...@gmail.com
OpenID is interesting, I have been reading up on it. OpenID forst
struck me as a "MS Passport" kind of thing, but more and more
technical people have been hyping it. So I'll have to do some digging.
Daniel Clark
> On Mar 2, 2:02 pm, davidld...@gmail.com wrote:
> > The CSS issue is a difficult case. If you are overriding the CSS that
> > was created for rCache (via FF settings), I may not be able to
> > "correct" my CSS for all cases. I would like to see how it looks
> > though.
>
> No problem, I'll get a screen shot up when I'm back at that computer.
There is a screenshot up at:
http://opensysadmin.com/bugs/rcache/2-rcache-problems.png
Where the 2 problems are the "Logout" tab covering up the tab on top
of it, and the narrow width of the column, which has the side effect
of making the CR-separated text in the email messages appear to be
staggered.
This is Firefox 2.0.0.1 (Ubuntu Edgy Eft), Proportional font size 16,
monospace font size 14, minimum font size 14. Screen in 1400x1050 (IBM
T40 laptop).
Daniel Clark
> Thanks for the info. I am going to try those guys out.
>
> OpenID is interesting, I have been reading up on it. OpenID forst
> struck me as a "MS Passport" kind of thing, but more and more
> technical people have been hyping it. So I'll have to do some digging.
Yeah, esp. with the sites that starting to support client-side SSL
certs like http://prooveme.com/ , it doesn't suck. It also has the
advantage that you can set up your own server to authenticate yourself
(currently not easy as none of the servers are all that mature, but
I'm sure that will change quickly).
Daniel Clark
> On Mar 2, 9:24 pm, davidld...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the info. I am going to try those guys out.
>
> > OpenID is interesting, I have been reading up on it. OpenID forst
> > struck me as a "MS Passport" kind of thing, but more and more
> > technical people have been hyping it. So I'll have to do some digging.
>
> Yeah, esp. with the sites that starting to support client-side SSL
> advantage that you can set up your own server to authenticate yourself
> (currently not easy as none of the servers are all that mature, but
> I'm sure that will change quickly).
After writing this I found http://certifi.ca , which I like better -
it uses free Thwate personal certs, instead of certs that it issues
itself.
Also I found another bug/feature request: HTML characters need to be
escaped in the web view (e.g. if a web page has visable text that has
HTML tags in it, that text becomes invisible in rcache except in the
edit view) - for example, see https://collect.rcache.com/edit/4291/ vs
https://collect.rcache.com/detail/4291/
david...@gmail.com
that up. I was playing with the CSS last night, and it will be better.
The Nav "tabs" are somewhat dependent on font-size right now, as the
padding value is what makes them actually look like tabs (on linux and
windows) on mac they are not quite tabs. Time for some platform
dependent CSS.
Thanks for the screenshot.
David
david...@gmail.com
looks.
david
Daniel Clark
in the screenshot screen), but IMHO using px is web pages is just a
bad idea - some people might have 1600x1200 on a 17-21" screen at
72-96-???dpi, whereas others might have 800x600 on the same screen, or
800x480 on a Nokia 800 (at 240dpi), or 320x320 on a Treo 700.
Also re: your comment that having borders make text more readable... I
would argue that it is more important on the web that text be quickly
scannable than readable (if I really need to read some really long
piece of text, and find long lines annoying (which I personally
don't), I can always print the page or resize the browser window -
wheras I haven't found a way to get rid of the borders via my web
browser); and what makes something easily scannable is having as much
text in front of you as possible (this is analogous to one of the
reasons some people like vi/emacs instead of IDEs like eclipse - in vi/
emacs almost the entire display is code, whereas in the default
eclipse view depending on screen size about half of the stuff can be
widgets).
Here are some articles I found on this subject that looked good (also
tagged as webdesign in my rcache):
Designing Websites For All Screen Resolutions
http://www.entheosweb.com/website_design/advanced_web_design.asp
Preparing for Widescreen: How to build dynamic-width pages now
http://www.digital-web.com/articles/preparing_for_widescreen/
Accessible web text - sizing up the issues.
http://www.mcu.org.uk/articles/textsize.html