EEPROM burner reccomendations?

[Nick Bolton]

Hello,

I've never burned an EEPROM before. I'd like to!

Will any EEPROM burner from eBay do the trick for burning an RC2014 ROM?

Cheers,

Nick

[Tom Storey]

I have a TL866II Plus from xgecu, and can recommend it. There is an open source project to allow you to use it on a Mac or Linux too (https://gitlab.com/DavidGriffith/minipro/), so you dont need Windows.

I believe xgecu now have a newer model(s), the T48 and/or T56, although I dont think those are supported by the open source project yet, so best to have a Windows box handy if you go for one of them.

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[Nick Bolton]

Thanks for the recommendation. I wonder, is this ' Vogueing' device the same as the one you mentioned, or is it a clone?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vogueing-Tool-Programmer-Performance-Universal/dp/B08BLCDT97/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1EIEYK22F51RB&keywords=TL866II+Plus+xgecu&qid=1672832679&sprefix=%2Caps%2C120&sr=8-3

[Ulrich Weber]

Hi Nick,

I guess it depends on how often you will need the programmer in the future.

I own the TL866 and also the T56.

As far as I know, the TL866 is out of production and the T48 is the follower.

The most of the TL866 you can buy by now, are counterfeit and maybe will not work properly with the software.

The T48/56 are not supported by the minipro software by now.

Are that serial EEPROMs or parallel?

For serial EEPROM  (I2C or SPI) the programmers, you found at ebay, will do.

For parallel (like 2764 … 27512) you will need something like the xgecu programmers.

http://www.xgecu.com/

Greetings 

Uli

[Ed Porter]

On 04/01/2023 12:42, Tom Storey wrote:
> I have a TL866II Plus from xgecu, and can recommend it. There is an open
> source project to allow you to use it on a Mac or Linux too
> (https://gitlab.com/DavidGriffith/minipro/), so you dont need Windows.
>
> I believe xgecu now have a newer model(s), the T48 and/or T56, although
> I dont think those are supported by the open source project yet, so best
> to have a Windows box handy if you go for one of them.

TL866ii works for most things but may be out of production. I have
installed the software it came with and run it on linux using wine,
which may be sub-optimal but it works without any problems.

-ed

[Ulrich Weber]

I guess, it‘s not an original xgecu, since they all have grey housings.

The T48/56 are black.

Uli

nick-p...@nbolton.com schrieb am Mittwoch, 4. Januar 2023 um 12:46:43 UTC+1:

[Nick Bolton]

T56 [1] seems to be double the price of the T48, so I'll give the T48 a shot.

1: https://amzn.eu/d/cE3Rki0

2: https://amzn.eu/d/0Oz2kS6

[Ulrich Weber]

Wow, 167 pounds is an extremely high price, got it for 120€, also at amazon.

But I guess, the T48 will be absolutely sufficient.

I never used the 8 „extra pins“ of the T56, but by the time it was offered, the T48 wasn‘t on the market.

Greetings

Uli

[Ed Porter]

On 04/01/2023 13:09, Ulrich Weber wrote:
> Wow, 167 pounds is an extremely high price, got it for 120€, also at amazon.
> But I guess, the T48 will be absolutely sufficient.
> I never used the 8 „extra pins“ of the T56, but by the time it was
> offered, the T48 wasn‘t on the market.

Cheaper from the official xgeu store, T48 is $56 including some adapters
and a PLCC extractor.

https://xgecu.myshopify.com/products/xgecu-new-t48-tl866-3g-programmer-support-28000-ics-for-spi-nor-nand-flash-emmc-bga-tsop-sop-plcc-7-parts

-ed

[Sławomir Zegarliński]

Hi everybody.

Burning EEPROM is very easy and requires no additional hardware. A short program is enough.

https://github.com/ZegarNotAvailable/Easy-EEPROM-programmer

[Nick Bolton]

Just checking, any 8x8k (64k) DIP24 EEPROM will do, right?

I only see one listing on eBay... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225089487028

[Nick Bolton]

Oh, how do we use this?

> Burning EEPROM is very easy and requires no additional hardware. A short program is enough.

> https://github.com/ZegarNotAvailable/Easy-EEPROM-programmer

On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 1:24:16 PM UTC zegar...@op.pl wrote:

[Scott Lewis]

I've used this quite successfully - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B082CKV47V/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1.  Good luck and enjoy all the conversations on the RC2014

[Spencer Owen]

If you have a spare Arduino Mega lying around, then something like this is great for 28Cxx devices;

http://danceswithferrets.org/geekblog/?page_id=903

Spencer

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[Nick Bolton]

> Just checking, any 8x8k (64k) DIP24 EEPROM will do, right?

Aha, from the docs...

> The module is designed with the 27C512 64k PROM in mind, as these are easily available and provide good value for money.  However, it will work with any of the 27 series down to the 2716 (2k) size.  If using a 24 pin chip, pin 1 of the chip should line up with pin 3 of the socket (ie pin 1,2,27,28 will be empty).  All ROM, PROM, EPROM and EEPROM types should work fine.  I believe the 28C series of chips up to 64k should also work – however, this is currently untested.

https://rc2014.co.uk/modules/pageable-rom/

[Sławomir Zegarliński]

Hello Nick.

I build burner for you. ;-)

https://github.com/ZegarNotAvailable/Easy-EEPROM-programmer

It's easy to build and allows burn 28C256.

Regards. Zegar.

[Tom Storey]

On Wed, 4 Jan 2023, 13:41 Nick Bolton, <nick-p...@nbolton.com> wrote:

Just checking, any 8x8k (64k) DIP24 EEPROM will do, right?

I only see one listing on eBay... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225089487028

It will depend a lot on what you're plugging the (E)EPROM into, and whether the pinout of the device is compatible with the board.

DIP28 and 32 seem more "popular" in my experience, probably because, at least these days, the most readily available parts come in those kinds of packages.

The AT28C64 and AT28C256 are DIP28 EEPROMs, but can be hard to come by. SST39SF0x0 are flash based ROMs but work basically the same way. Flash based ROMs are generally much cheaper than traditional EEPROMs, but with a bigger package you may not be able to plug it in if the board only has 28 pin sockets.

Best check the documentation or existing builds to see what kind of parts are supported or known to work.

[Sergey Kiselev]

I was going to write a reply, but it was getting too long. Also this seems to be a repeating question. So I wrote this article instead:

https://github.com/skiselev/vintage-computing/wiki/Read-Only-Memory-(ROM)-Usage-and-Programming-Considerations

[Nick Bolton]

Update: Tried the XGecu T48, worked great.

[Nick Bolton]

Also, Winbond W27C512-45 worked but damn those pins are extremely fragile... luckily I ordered a spare. Now I'm handling the 2nd with the same care as my wife's Christmas tree decorations.