PSA: 68 AHH on Seattle CL

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JAS

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Apr 30, 2020, 4:46:00 PM4/30/20
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PSA:  For you tall folks!  There's a 68cm Hilsen on the Seattle Craigslist in that beautiful blue sporting racks, nice bags and a Brooks. (Again, no association with the seller).

--Joyce

Eric Floden

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Apr 30, 2020, 5:16:48 PM4/30/20
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On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 at 13:46, JAS <swanso...@gmail.com> wrote:
PSA:  For you tall folks!  There's a 68cm Hilsen on the Seattle Craigslist in that beautiful blue sporting racks, nice bags and a Brooks. (Again, no association with the seller).

--Joyce

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James Warren

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Apr 30, 2020, 5:31:06 PM4/30/20
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It’s a beauty. Looks like a great bike. My guess is that it’s a 67 cm. Maybe a 69 and they measured Center to Center and called it 68? But it doesn’t look big enough to be a 69.

I think those were always odd sizes in the big ones, so I doubt a 68 was made. But who knows for sure?


John Rinker

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Apr 30, 2020, 7:24:09 PM4/30/20
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What kind of a PBH would one have to have in order to fit a 67-69cm AHH? That looks like a big bike!

Cheers.


On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 2:31:06 PM UTC-7, Jimmy Warren wrote:
It’s a beauty. Looks like a great bike. My guess is that it’s a 67 cm. Maybe a 69 and they measured Center to Center and called it 68? But it doesn’t look big enough to be a 69.

I think those were always odd sizes in the big ones, so I doubt a 68 was made. But who knows for sure?
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On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 at 13:46, JAS <swanso...@gmail.com> wrote:
PSA:  For you tall folks!  There's a 68cm Hilsen on the Seattle Craigslist in that beautiful blue sporting racks, nice bags and a Brooks. (Again, no association with the seller).

--Joyce

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Curtis McKenzie

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Apr 30, 2020, 8:47:54 PM4/30/20
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My kind of pbh!

Curtis
El Cajon 
"Who enjoys his 69 cm Bantam"

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Julian Westerhout

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Apr 30, 2020, 9:12:32 PM4/30/20
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My PBH is 101. 

I happily ride several 68 cm Rivs. 

:) 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

Paul Richardson

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Apr 30, 2020, 9:26:38 PM4/30/20
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i'm about 97.5 and ride a 67cm homer (with quite a bit of seatpost and generous standover).
this alaskan looks pretty similar to my eye.

paul
takoma park, md.


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Birdman

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May 1, 2020, 7:52:36 PM5/1/20
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I’d be all over this, but it feels too risky to buy out of state through CL. Anybody on the list that can verify this bike/seller?
Isaac

John Rinker

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May 1, 2020, 8:37:18 PM5/1/20
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Follow up question: I have a 93 PBH and ride a 62cm Hunq. As such, would I also choose to ride a 62cm AHH? 

Jonathan D.

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May 1, 2020, 8:38:42 PM5/1/20
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I have before but not a bike. I asked a bunch of questions that led me to believe they were intimately knowledgeable of Rivendell and then used that to feel comfortable with the sale. A big bike purchase would be hard to trust on CL.

Birdman

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May 1, 2020, 8:51:29 PM5/1/20
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Well, I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I believe that frame is way too big for me anyway.

JAS

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May 1, 2020, 10:06:57 PM5/1/20
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Birdman, I have cousins in Petersburg.  Would you like me to see if they know the seller?

Birdman

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May 1, 2020, 10:19:35 PM5/1/20
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Thanks JAS, but after looking at AHH sizing charts, I’ve realized that it’s too big for me. I really appreciate the offer, though.
Best,
Brd

Abcyclehank

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May 2, 2020, 1:10:32 PM5/2/20
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John not in my opinion. The Hunqa has a 6* upslope. Whereas the original AHH had almost a level top tube.

Length of tube and angles are just a few of the variables that change to make direct correlations not always likely.

Rivendell has lots of Geometry charts to search through and I recommend learning what key measurements mean the most to you and then trust yourself. Although almost everyone on this list helps with the best of intentions they might confuse you even further if you solicit the open opinions 👍
Sincerely,
Ryan Hankinson

Always best IMO to fire questions to Will, Vince, and company at RBW headquarters. They will ask the correct questions and patiently walk you through their many ever evolving versions.

James Warren

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May 2, 2020, 7:48:28 PM5/2/20
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John,

Two-part answer. If we are talking about the made-in-Japan or made-in-USA AHHs that one could see in the used market, the answer is:
No my guess is that you would likely ride a 65 cm AHH if you ride a 62 cm Hunq.

The AHH (Japan or US) has a more “traditional” top tube that slopes up 1.5 degrees from seat lug to head tube. The Hunqapillar’s analogous angle is 6 degrees. These extra degrees add a lot of handlebar height. My sizes in USA AHH and Hunqapillar are 65 cm and 62 cm respectively.

Part 2:
If you are looking at the new AHH that Riv sells, made in Taiwan, there is a good chance that its 61.5 cm frame will fit similar to the 62 cm Hunq. The made in Taiwan AHH has a top tube that slopes up 6 degrees from seat lug to head tube, like the Hunqapillar.

So if you’re ever looking at a Homer, make sure that distinction is clear.

The Homer is an amazing bike either way.

-Jimmy

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John Rinker

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May 3, 2020, 12:30:17 AM5/3/20
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Thank you Ryan. Yes, I've seen a few of the geometry charts and one chart that seems to recommend different frame sizes based on PBH. Mostly, I was just curious how the bike measured up and definitely agree that the best thing to do is understand the geometry of my own bike and why I love the ride so much. 

Cheers, John

John Rinker

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May 3, 2020, 12:32:29 AM5/3/20
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Thanks very much Jimmy. I think your distinction between current and past AHHs is very helpful. While I'm not in the market for a new Riv, I do like to keep up with what's posted here and should the right older bike ever come available I might jump on it. Knowing a little more about how the geometry of different frames compare will be helpful should this day arrive.

Cheers, John


On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 4:48:28 PM UTC-7, Jimmy Warren wrote:

John,

Two-part answer. If we are talking about the made-in-Japan or made-in-USA AHHs that one could see in the used market, the answer is:
No my guess is that you would likely ride a 65 cm AHH if you ride a 62 cm Hunq.

The AHH (Japan or US) has a more “traditional” top tube that slopes up 1.5 degrees from seat lug to head tube. The Hunqapillar’s analogous angle is 6 degrees. These extra degrees add a lot of handlebar height. My sizes in USA AHH and Hunqapillar are 65 cm and 62 cm respectively.

Part 2:
If you are looking at the new AHH that Riv sells, made in Taiwan, there is a good chance that its 61.5 cm frame will fit similar to the 62 cm Hunq. The made in Taiwan AHH has a top tube that slopes up 6 degrees from seat lug to head tube, like the Hunqapillar.

So if you’re ever looking at a Homer, make sure that distinction is clear.

The Homer is an amazing bike either way.

-Jimmy

On May 1, 2020, at 5:37 PM, John Rinker <jwri...@gmail.com> wrote:


Follow up question: I have a 93 PBH and ride a 62cm Hunq. As such, would I also choose to ride a 62cm AHH? 


On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 1:46:00 PM UTC-7, JAS wrote:
PSA:  For you tall folks!  There's a 68cm Hilsen on the Seattle Craigslist in that beautiful blue sporting racks, nice bags and a Brooks. (Again, no association with the seller).

--Joyce

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