Cheviot dreaming

[Joe Bernard]

Whelp, this started as a "let's jump on that sale" journey towards a Cheviot frame at a pre-sale price in a nice Roadini/RBW Blue...then I lost my mind. Someone on a Roadini thread mentioned getting a custom color and I thought, HEY! So I chatted with Will @ Riv and determined I could get anything I wanted (that fit the bike/decals) from Rick at D&D. I pondered on this a while and looked at a lot of colors on the internets and decided a Candy Apple Red Cheviot would be the cat's pajamas. Now my pre-sale bargain Chev is..not such a bargain! Oops ;-)

It's going to be just gorgeous with the cream contrasts, and is sort of my shot at a poor man's custom 'cause I know I'll never buy (or need) a true custom. It's also a bit of an homage to the Jimmy Carter bike. His was an Atlantis and a different shade of red, but that bike is what got me thinking about a red Riv the other night. I can't wait!

https://www.google.com/search?q=jimmy+carter+rivendell+bike&oq=jimmy+carter+bik&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0l3.16939j0j7&client=ms-android-verizon&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=vzkGNutcbKY_9M:

[MartyG]

Good choice Joe. You won't regret it. Can't wait to see pics.

[Ann L]

I agree that the red with the cream accents would be stunning.  Good choice and I also wanted to see pictures.

[WETH]

Joe,
I love my Cheviot. For the type of riding I enjoy, it is my favorite of the Rivs I've owned or own (Atlantis, Romulus, Road Standard). It is almost the perfect bike. One more set of water bottle cage braze-ons and it is perfect!

It will look stunning in red; can't wait to see photos.

[Ryan Fleming]

I think a dark red really makes the cream pop. Actually Candy apple red sounds appealing. So... metallic?

And don't they say red bikes are faster?

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

A candy apple red Cheviot is my dream bike. With two bottle mounts, as WETH said. The cream accents will just be luscious. I might be nearly as excited as you. For me it's always been between lipstick pink with cream (like that list member Sumihra sp?) or else the red. But in the end, it must be red. Timeless. Classy. Eternal. You won't be able to post enough pictures. When do we get to see?

[Chris Birkenmaier]

That was me getting the Roadini painted. Should be there right now in fact. I also considered a red but more like a deep Merlot shade. Bright red should be very pretty

[Ryan Fleming]

Well! Pictures of both, please ...So Chris, what colour did you end up going with?

[Joe Bernard]

Hi BeeBee DeeDee Leah! It's gonna be soooo pretty. The frames are arriving at RBW end-of-November-ish, then however long it takes for Rick to do his painty magic. I'll definitely post mucho pics when I have it.

[Joe Bernard]

In my case red bikes are slower, but that gives people more time to look at it :-)

[David Sprunger]

Joe,

This will be a cool bike. As long as you're getting the custom paint, did you consider have canti posts added? That's the one thing I wish my Cheviot had but doesn't. The frame has generous clearance, but tire size is limited by the brake calipers. (It's certainly easier to spend your money than my own.)

David Sprunger

Fargo, ND

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[Mark in Beacon]

How much more tire would that get you, front and rear? The specs say it can take a 650B/45 or a 700c/50. That is a ton o' tire. If you really need more, brake reach is listed as 65 (Tektro 559?), but if you went with Dia Compe 750 centerpulls, would that get you more height (which I assume is the limiting factor here?)

Also, complaints about only one water bottle mount on the Cheviots are popular. I have lots of bikes with none. Most of my rides I only need  one bottle, so I have some version of a clamped on holder. If I figure I will be out all of a summer's day, I sometimes supplement with the twofish bottle thing. Not the most elegant, but for occasional use it works just fine. Or if all your riding is 40+ miles, you could use a clamped cage. The Zefal vintage cages are pretty.  I'm about to install one on my dress-up bike. Or go super duper old school retro and get a handlebar mounted cage. Fun! Or ride with a domestique or two. It's up to you.

BTW, tip of the hat to Joe B for alerting me to the Harris Cheviot. I in turn told my friend, and she bought it then hopped in the car and drove three hours to pick it up. I'll be seeing it and helping her get fitted this Friday. Looking forward to it. Of course I will need to take a bit of a test ride!

On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 1:24:34 PM UTC-8, spru...@gmail.com wrote:

Joe,

This will be a cool bike. As long as you're getting the custom paint, did you consider have canti posts added? That's the one thing I wish my Cheviot had but doesn't. The frame has generous clearance, but tire size is limited by the brake calipers. (It's certainly easier to spend your money than my own.)

David Sprunger

Fargo, ND

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:

Whelp, this started as a "let's jump on that sale" journey towards a Cheviot frame at a pre-sale price in a nice Roadini/RBW Blue...then I lost my mind. Someone on a Roadini thread mentioned getting a custom color and I thought, HEY! So I chatted with Will @ Riv and determined I could get anything I wanted (that fit the bike/decals) from Rick at D&D. I pondered on this a while and looked at a lot of colors on the internets and decided a Candy Apple Red Cheviot would be the cat's pajamas. Now my pre-sale bargain Chev is..not such a bargain! Oops ;-)

It's going to be just gorgeous with the cream contrasts, and is sort of my shot at a poor man's custom 'cause I know I'll never buy (or need) a true custom. It's also a bit of an homage to the Jimmy Carter bike. His was an Atlantis and a different shade of red, but that bike is what got me thinking about a red Riv the other night. I can't wait!

https://www.google.com/search?q=jimmy+carter+rivendell+bike&oq=jimmy+carter+bik&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0l3.16939j0j7&client=ms-android-verizon&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=vzkGNutcbKY_9M:

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[Joe Bernard]

As long as it fits my 650b x 41 Fatty Rumpkins I'm happy. It may be a tad snug with fenders, but I'm thinking of running roadie-style clip-on/pop-off mudguards anyway 'cause it's dry here most of the year. Also, I'm not a big fan of adding brake stresses to a frame in areas it wasn't designed for. Grant designed this with road calipers and I like the long-reach Tektros he sells.

Hey Mark, your friend's Cheviot is my size. You gotta test it to make sure I'll like it! ;-)

[Leah Peterson]

But Mark, you don’t understand. The dream Cheviot HAS to have two bottle mounts because the Dream Cheviot is the world’s most over-prepared bike. At least according to The Book of Leah, it is. The bike would have dyno lighting and the heaviest-duty racks and giant Wald baskets and Sackville bags everywhere. Also, the Dream Cheviot would go perfectly with my red End of the World Boots - the boots I would grab if everything was falling apart. You know, like in The Walking Dead. Two bottle mounts would be mandatory if I had to outride the zombies. You can’t just have the Two-Fish thing jiggling around on the frame like that, no sir. 

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[Ryan Fleming]

My custom mixte did have 2 water-bottle mounts; the 1st is topside ,the  2nd is on the underside of the downtube.  To be fair here, I said 2 bosses on the form but I didn't say where

[Joe Bernard]

Eh, it's not a thing for me. I only use one bottle at a time, and usually carry enough luggage to store extra.

[Tim Gavin]

Mark in Beacon - 

AFAIK, the prime motivator for canti brakes vs long-reach sidepulls is fender clearance (ameliorated by switching to long-reach centerpulls, as you suggest.  

An additional motivator would be better brake feel due to the long, flexy arms of long-reach sidepulls or DC centerpulls (ameliorated by using non-flexy centerpulls like Paul or Compass).

Another additional motivator would be the ease of removing a wheel from open cantilevers (super easy), compared to open sidepull/centerpull brakes (may need to deflate tire).

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[Ryan Fleming]

yeah...I'm not riding this bike thru Death Valley(which is an adventure, just not mine) or anything so it's not really a concern

[Ann L]

I really love the idea of the candy apple red paint job.  A similar color scheme showed up in this thread https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/saluki%7Csort:date/rbw-owners-bunch/toarUeDZ5mo/cxVVDSfAAgAJ.   I was so very tempted since the bike was my size.  But I just bought a new bike and couldn't justify it to myself.  If I was going for a custom paint job, I would probably go for something similar.  Nothing brings out the inner 10 year old like a shiny new bright red bike :)  Kuddos for making this uniquely yours.

[RonaTD]

On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 3:24:34 PM UTC-6, spru...@gmail.com wrote:

 As long as you're getting the custom paint, did you consider have canti posts added? That's the one thing I wish my Cheviot had but doesn't. The frame has generous clearance, but tire size is limited by the brake calipers. 

On my 55 Cheviot, I don't think cantilever brakes would add much tire clearance. I'm able to fit Compass 38mm tires under VO fenders, just barely. The front brake is problematic, but in the end I don't think removing it would create more than a couple extra mm. 

Ted Durant

Milwaukee, WI, where the snow tires might be getting mounted soon.

[Mark in Beacon]

The tires in this photos are Clement Xplor 40s, I've had Compass 38s, which will also permit fenders easily, and right now it has 42 Somas. With releases at the cable hanger and also at the lever, no need to deflate even the biggest tires. I really like the vintage Dia Compe/Weinmann, and I find that even the 750 gives plenty of well-modulated stopping power. I think that is the 610, which I 

switched to a Weinmann 750 because it just barely reached, and as pads wear on the cps, they go up...

In any event, I guess cantis could be a nice option, as well as the two water bottle mounts, but for most users I think the way it was spec'd is right on.

[Mark in Beacon]

Hi Leah. Did you grow while you were away? The boots you would grab? I'd keep 'em real close from here on out. In fact you may want to sleep in them. You are right, though, an all-out sprint from a zombie or two would render the Twofish inoperable in no time. But then, you don't want to be taking hands off the bars at a moment like that. Apocalypse bicycle equipment selection can be plain darn confusing! But the red boots, no brainer for sure (pardon the pun.)

[Leah Peterson]

Did I grow? I looked for the meaning in this but all I can come up with is “Wait a minute, is he making a fat joke?” I’ll keep the boots close. Scary times, I tell you. And you best get Riv to make you some mounts. I’ll find you some appropriate boots! We got this covered. 

Sent from my iPad

[Joe Bernard]

I didn't get the "grow" comment, either, but I don't think it was a fat joke. You look fabulous, and those are killer boots!

[Leah Peterson]

Muah, Joe! Back to you. Your. Bike. Is. Awesome. And I bet the color will look something like this. Swoon.

[Mark in Beacon]

The angle of the photo has an elongating effect. I was talking up, not out. So maybe it was a (bad) skinny joke? But please, never look for meaning in any of my comments, grasshopper.

[Joe Bernard]

Ooh, a red Glorius. That's sweet!

[Ryan Fleming]

Porsche Ruby Red  by Rivendell's current painter. I thought about this colour myself. Very classy!

On Cyclofiend

http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2006/cc095-cvanorsdol0406.html 

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Ryan I'm getting Metallic Black.  Thought that would be a classic color that goes well with many other colors (bar tape, pedals)

[Joe Bernard]

That's going to be real pretty, Chris. My Brompton is that color - they call it Stardust Black - and it's quite a sight in the sun. I can't wait to see pics of your Roadini.