Inverted Riser Bars Question 🙃

[☆ Paul ☆]

Hello Everyone.

Here's a question that I'm not a good  enough mathematician to answer:

I have a pair of Choco Bars on my Susie that I flipped upside-down to get a more aggressive hand position.  

What I'm wondering is, would I just get the exact same hand position with the bars in their normal (un-flipped) position by just lowering the stem?

I tried flipping and un-flipping the bars and raising and lowering the stem, and it feels different with the bars upside-down. But I can't decide if that's just psychological.

Thank you!

PS: Susie rules.

Paul

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Probably psychological, but no less boss. I like the path racer look of the up and down in the stem to bar, and so do you? Whatever gets you there, it's a win.

-Kai

[Bones]

I have chocomooses and chocos. The mooses are made inverted, but I've used the chocos both ways. I prefer them inverted, so I generally stick with the mooses because they are inverted without raising the stem halfway to the moon. My hands feel an ergonomic advantage to the inverted upward bend of the bar, but it is not a night and day difference. When I had a child seat on the front I need the extra stem length, so I used the chocos.

Bones

On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 6:04:42 AM UTC-4 ☆ Paul ☆ wrote:

[Hetchins52]

I also have a medium Susie set up with DirtDrop 10 stem and Choco bars, "reversed."

The orientation at the grip, I think, is the same.

However, the grip to either side of the stem is quite different. When reversed, the bar rises to meet the stem and allows you a forward position without any drop when you transition there from the grips. It's also more ergonomic. 

Try this: With your hands at your sides, raise your arms to a position straight out from your body, with palms down and parallel to the ground.

Now, rotate the thumbs up about 5 degrees. That's your close-to-the-stem position on Choco-reversed and easily maintained.

Now rotate the hands so that the thumbs are about 5 degrees down from horizontal. I find that a little harder and less comfortable. 

Continue rotating so the thumbs are 45 degrees down and that's my not-strained limit. It's also just a little more than a Bosco twists your wrists if you try to grab forward and close to the stem. I find it unusable with Boscos. But it's good with a Choco-reversed!

David Lipsky

Berkeley, CA 

On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 3:04:42 AM UTC-7, ☆ Paul ☆ wrote:

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I have a pair of Choco Bars on my Susie that I flipped upside-down to get a more aggressive hand position.  

What I'm wondering is, would I just get the exact same hand position with the bars in their normal (un-flipped) position by just lowering the stem?

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PS: Susie rules.