Seat bag security

[zem...@gmail.com]

I've always wanted to attach a fancy Sackville bag to my bike, but I live in Toronto where stuff gets stolen off your bike all the time. So I've resigned myself to only using bike parts I can bolt down.

Anyone else deal with this? Any suggestions for locking down or otherwise securing seat bags? 

Cheers!

Zack

Toronto, Canada

[Patrick Moore]

What about a QR-type of saddlebag holder? Rivendell used to sell a QR device made by Nitto, but it was designed for Brooks saddles with rails vertical in the back; used with more modern saddles' slanting rails it angled the clamp downward. I made a couple of imitations with arms that were level when installed on a Flite, but they were probably not sturdy enough for long-term, heavily loaded use -- mine were cut and bent from aluminum stock, not brazed from steel.

Will a Rivendell saddlebag work with the Carradice SQR system? 

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[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Not a 100% solution obviously.

But the Swift Bandito bar/seat bag has slots where the buckles can reside inside the bag, rather than outside where someone will notice it can be easily detached.

My bandito survived at least one year and the better part of a second outside in the bike theft capital of the US, Brooklyn, NY.

Dunno much about the sackville seat bags, but maybe you could look at having holes cut to pass the straps thru and have the buckles inside? 

Patrick's QR idea is probably the only truly secure method.

For me, contents are a concern tho. Didn't find a solution to making the contents pilfer proof, but my tool kit only got stolen once during that time.

The bandito bag has a pretty unnoticeable access to the pocket between the liner and the outer, and I kept stuff in there w/o fear of it being stolen apart from someone taking the bag as a whole.

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[Greg J]

On my Bart bike (which I leave at the station all day during non-covid times), I loop a thin braided steel cable (like 2-3mm diameter, ~10" long) through the bag and the seatpost binder bolt.  These were typically used to theft-deter quick release seat posts.  On at least a couple of occasions, I found my bag (just a cheap Jannd, but still, I don't want it stolen) hanging off the bike but still attached because the thief couldn't just walk off with it.  Of course, I don't leave anything valuable in the bag, and you could pretty easily cut through the cable if you were determined.

Greg

[E. Ricky Creek]

When I lived in Chicago and used a Carradice I would pair it with a Pletscher rear rack with a mousetrap. When I parked the bike I would open the mousetrap over the bag and then use a little padlock to lock a loop on the bag to the mousetrap. It was an easy lockup trick and nobody every messed with it. 

[Michael Morrissey]

In the big city, I usually ride with one Ortlieb bag on the left, then take it with me wherever I go. They're light enough to carry only a few items in, and it expands in case I go to a store and buy some snacks. The quick release is always reliable for me.

The Sackville bags are nice, but I wouldn't risk one getting stolen. 

m

[alan lavine]

Another option is stainless steel zip ties, placed where they are obviously noticeable.  Very difficult to cut with diagonal pliers but easy to cut with sharp surgical sissors....that's the dirty little secret.  But it looks impressive.  Available on line at Home Depot.

Alan NYC

[Pam Bikes]

I've never had anyone steal my bags or stuff out of my bike anywhere I've ever parked it - except once.  I was at Target on Black Friday and I think some kids stole my stuff - helmet, multitool, tire levers.  I've parked all over but mostly for short amount of time while I'm in a store or restaurant.  I never park for an extended period of time - probably less than an hour.  I have Sackville bags.  

I also have some releasable zip ties -but only you know they are releasable.  Want to try them?  Put them on, sit near your bike and observe a while.  Let me know and I'll send you some.  I had to buy a bag of 100.  So I have plenty.

[zem...@gmail.com]

Wow. Ricky, I'd love to see a picture of that setup if you have one. 

On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 2:19:15 PM UTC-4 E. Ricky Creek wrote:

[reca...@gmail.com]

As Alan mentioned, stainless steel zip ties work great to secure bags and when I was living in Oakland (if I left anything on the bike unsecured there it would almost always get snagged), these came in very handy. I started using hiplock's ties recently as they are easy to take on and off but they are probably less secure than the stainless zip ties. 

carlos

Brooklyn, NY

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 7:27:37 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote: