WTB: silver rear hub, 32h, 135mm, 11spd (or 8-10) (Velo Orange, Shimano, White, others)

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Pancake

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Feb 28, 2021, 11:51:27 AM2/28/21
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I have a couple Velo Orange Voyager rims (700c, 32h) that I want to build up. Plan to use rim brakes, but a center lock hub would be okay too. Open to other ideas and suggestions too.

Hubs I'm looking for in particular (32h, silver or polished):
Shimano FH-T670, (this is my preferred hub, but impossible to find so far), FH-T610 (this seems the most common but can't ben found in silver anywhere), or similar.

More details in case you have a different hub that might work too:

11 speed hub, but 8-10 speed okay too: I plan to use a 9 speed cassette, but I would like to use a 11 speed hub (I understand you can add a small spacer behind the cassette to make the 11 speed hub work with a 8, 9, or 10 speed cassette). 

32 hole to match my rims.

Silver or polished - I'd like to keep everything as silver as possible. 

Will use rim brakes, but if there's a centerlock hub that ticks all the other boxes that would work as well.

Plan to use a Kasai dynamo hub up front (also 32h in silver or polished) which I'm also interested in buying from list members, or a similar silver dyanmo hub like Son, SP, or Shimano.

Thanks in advance,
Abe 

Collin A

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Feb 28, 2021, 12:16:05 PM2/28/21
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Abe,

I don't have any hubs that fit your criteria, but one little informational nugget is that 11 spd shimano mtn cassettes actually work on 10 speed shimano freehubs! So if you have the linked 670 or 610 hubs above, you'd still be able to use 11 speed cassettes (and even the hg700, the most recent 105 version of the 11-34 or 11--36 cassette) AND use 9 speed cassettes, too, all without spacers, adapters, etc.

Sounds like an awesome wheelbuild!

Cheers,
Collin in Sactown

Pat Smith

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Mar 1, 2021, 9:13:52 AM3/1/21
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I was on the hunt for a long time for silver disc hubs and they were nearly impossible to find on a budget, let alone for 11 speed. Since you're looking at rim brakes you should have more luck. Check out the Bitex hubs of you're on a budget they usually have a nice silver ootion: 
https://www.bikehubstore.com/category-s/140.htm

Also last I saw those Kasai/Panasonic dyno hubs were super cheap on Soma Fabs webstore. Not sure if they are in stock with your options but take a look if you haven't already. 

Pat in DC

Huston

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Mar 1, 2021, 9:39:25 AM3/1/21
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Abe,

One other nice option that checks your boxes: Grand Bois.  You can order through Jitensha (https://www.jitensha.com/eng/hubs.html) or Grand Bois.

Huston
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Pancake

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Mar 1, 2021, 3:36:45 PM3/1/21
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Thanks for all the responses!

I found out that Riv has the FH-T610 ($30) and FH-T670 ($60) which is now the most affordable and easy option I've got. Thanks Rich! I'm still hoping someone has another VO or Bitex or White Industries (or similar) that they want to sell second hand - I guess I want some of the fanciness without all the original cost ... anyone?

Bitex
 - This is suddenly a great option as a middle ground between Shimano T670 / T610 and the fancier stuff. I couldn't find the right option at first, but it looks like the BX106R would work (though with a centerlock attachment but that's good for having options later I suppose - it doesn't stand out visually either). I see a price of $119.95 in my cart from bikehubstore.com, though the website text says "$109.95" for Black or Silver (emailed them about that). Free shipping too! I had assumed I could only find these at Analog and at a higher price, so this is great news and my current plan/choice.
For future reference, the rim brake only Bitex hub is BX101R with the 135mm x 10mm axle and 10/11 speed Shimano freehub body. 
There's also a bolt on disc model, MTR12, that would work hypothetically, but I'm trying to avoid the bolt on as it would look a bit odd without a disc on it.

11 speed optional - only really interested in an 11 speed hub because it would be compatible with 9 speed (when including a spacer behind the cassette) and would also potentially be available on a 11 speed cassette in the future (should I ever go 1x11 which doesn't seem likely for years to come, but still, I like having options I guess). Good tips on compatibility of different cassettes on these hub bodies though!

Grand Bois - beautiful but I think only available in 126mm or 130mm width (I need 135mm).

Shimano XTR FH-M910 on ebay for $65 just listed too. I think these are from the mid or late 90's? Interesting and polished option.

Thanks for the excellent info and suggestions! Planning on buying that Bitex BX106r from bikehubstore, I guess I'll get the butted (2.0-1.8-2.0) spokes and some brass nipples there too. 

Now onto the front wheel I suppose: Kasai Dynacoil RB F Q/R Hub, 9x100mm, 32h - Hi Polish. The polished version doesn't seem to be available at Rivendell so looking to order from Bikeman.com for $133. 

So I think I end up with an all polished / silver wheelset for a reasonable price! 
  • Front: 
    • Hub: Kasai polished 32h dynamo ($133)
    • Rim: Velo Orange Voyager 700c 32h (2 for $110)
    • Spokes: DT Swiss double butted competition (64 for $64)
    • Nipples: DT Swiss brass 12mm (64 for $8)
    • Rim tape laying around (Orange Seal or Velocity)
  • Rear:
    • Hub: Bitex BX106r 32h 10/11 speed silver ($110)
    • Rim, spokes, nipples same as above.
Total cost: $435.

Then will likely add tubeless sealant and valves, hopefully Snoqualmie Pass or G-One 45mm Allround or speed tires. Should take me where I want to go tubed or tubeless. 

Still open to suggestions, advice, tips, or any of those items for sale second hand.

Take care,
Abe

Pancake

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Mar 7, 2021, 11:43:45 AM3/7/21
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Parts all ordered, hub no longer needed, thanks everyone!

For the curious, here's my planned build @ $427 for silver polished wheelset including dynamo and semi fancy rear hub. 
  • Front: 
    • Hub: Kasai polished 32h dynamo ($133 from Bikeman.com)
    • Rim: Velo Orange Voyager 700c 32h (2 for $110 from RBW list member)
    • Spokes: Sapim Race (same as DT Swiss Competition at 2.0-1.8-2.0 double butted) - ($0.80 each - front uses 32 spokes at 292mm long for spoke calculation of 291.3mm $27 includes a spare)
    • Nipples: DT Swiss brass 12mm ($4 for 32)
    • Rim tape laying around (Orange Seal or Velocity $12 is enough for front and rear)
  • Rear:
      • Hub: Bitex BX106r 32h 10/11 speed silver ($110)
      • Rim: Velo Orange Voyager 700c 32h (see above)
      • Spokes: Sapim Race (same as DT Swiss Competition at 2.0-1.8-2.0 double butted) - (rear uses 16 spokes at 292mm long for spoke calculation of 291.5mm, and 16 spokes at 294mm long for spoke calculation of 293.1mm)
      • Nipples: DT Swiss brass 12mm ($4 for 32)
      • Rim tape laying around (see above)
    • Doesn't include some tools I bought or already had:
      • Bikehand truing stand ($150)
      • ParkTool dishing tool ($22 for the portable one)
      • Nipple driver I made with an old flathead screw bit - 2.5mm long tip (otherwise $13 for the Unior bit)
      • When use them tubeless (maybe) will need some Stan's fluid I already have (probably $10) plus two valves (also laying around, normally $15)
      • Ztto (cheap) tension meter $22 - probably improperly calibrated but I'll use it to get close and consistent between spokes.

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