Very short reach drop bar, not too wide, gives a relatively normal hood position, and has anormal (not anatomic) bend?

[Patrick Moore]

Is there any bar that is not more than about 44 cm at hoods, has a regular hook, gives more or less a regular hoods position, and that has a very short reach? And a very shallow drop? I think of replacing the cut-down Aherne MAP bar with something that gives me the ever comfortable hood position but doesn't stretch me out much more than the Aherne bar. I realize that I can buy a shorter stem too, but I want to know what the shortest reach, etc., option/s is/are.

Thanks.

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Patrick Moore

Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum

[Andrew Turner]

I too would be curious about a bar like this, specifically with a 26.0 or 25.4 clamp size. If 31.8 isn't a buzzkill for you, I have nothing but good things to say about Ritchey's Evocurve handlebar. Quite comfy. 

[Elisabeth Sherwood]

As long as you don't mind a 31.8mm clamp area and a black finish, both Specialized's Shallow Bend handlebar and Zipp's 70 Ergo bars have a darn short reach and are super comfortable.  (Specialized has a round top; Zipp has a slightly flatter top...)  The Zipps have a 70mm reach; Specialized's is either the same, or 75mm...

I'm linking to the base-price versions...

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/expert-alloy-shallow-bend-handlebars/p/155634?color=230897-155634

https://www.sram.com/en/zipp/models/hb-dbsc-7e-b2

If you're looking for a silver finish and a 26.0 clamp area, the only thing I've found to be nice is the Soma Hwy One...  Would love to hear of others!

Liz

Washington, DC

[Nick Payne]

The Nitto Fairweather M174AA bar has 75mm reach, and comes in widths from 380mm to 460mm. 25.4mm clamp diameter.

https://global.bluelug.com/fairweather-m174aa-all-road-bar-silver.html

Nick

[Patrick Moore]

Thank you, Elizabeth; both those look very possible -- and yes, I should have mentioned that I do want a 31.8mm clamp area.

The Specialized website also showed these with a 15 mm rise: perhaps even better: https://www.specialized.com/us/en/hover-alloy-handlebars--15mm-rise-plus-flare/p/155205?color=231077-155205&searchText=21018-3044

I suppose all of these have 128 mm -- 130 mm drop; then the Hover with the 15 mm rise is even better with a net 115 mm drop. Excellent.

Nick: Thanks for referring the Fairweather, but the 2 Specialized bars suit better.

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[Jeremy Till]

The Salsa Cowbell is the shortest drop bar I've found (and used) at 68mm reach. Contemporary "short and shallow" type hooks. If you're used to any kind of real estate behind the brake lever, however, you might find these lacking. Fully on the brake lever hoods is about the only hand position they offer in that region. I recently used some for about a year before swapping for the VO "Nouveau Randonneur," which has significantly more room behind the hoods but is also longer reach. I liked the angle and position of the drops on the Cowbells better, though.  

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Sacramento, CA

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Soma hwy 1 is another good (cheap) option in 26 and 31.8. I use them and like them but agree there is no place between the tops and hoods. 

Drop: 130mm
Reach: 75mm

Best,

Aaron in El Paso 

On Jan 11, 2023, at 18:08, Jeremy Till <jerem...@gmail.com> wrote:

The Salsa Cowbell is the shortest drop bar I've found (and used) at 68mm reach. Contemporary "short and shallow" type hooks. If you're used to any kind of real estate behind the brake lever, however, you might find these lacking. Fully on the brake lever hoods is about the only hand position they offer in that region. I recently used some for about a year before swapping for the VO "Nouveau Randonneur," which has significantly more room behind the hoods but is also longer reach. I liked the angle and position of the drops on the Cowbells better, though.  

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[Patrick Moore]

Thanks Jeremy and Aaron; both bars are in the running. I still favor the Specialized Hover bar for its 15 mm rise, but any of these with 31.8 mm clamp would work.

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[Elisabeth Sherwood]

I can confirm that the Specialized Hover bars are great, too!

(They also have a version of the Hover with a flare at the drops, btw...)

Cheers!

-- Liz

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, good to have first-hand approval of the Hovers.

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[George Schick]

Patrick - are you spec'ing a 31.8 clamp size because you're going to use the bars with possibly a threadless stem with a 4-bolt bar clamp?   If so, it's too bad that you don't want an anatomic bar because the one fits all of your other criteria better than some of the other recommendations is the the Ritchey BioMax II.  It has very flat ramps at the end of which the brake levers can be installed so as to allow a perfectly straight transition from the bar flats to the brake hoods.  It also has a very shallow drop - just about everything you're looking for except the ergo bend.

I have eyeballed the recommended Highway One bars from time to time because they, too, are shorter reach and have flatter ramps and shallower drops, but I don't understand why the drops extend so far back toward the rider - seems excessive.  I suppose one could cut these shorter to suit an individual preference...

 

Anyway, here's a look at the Ritchey bars, FYI.  They are ugly, I'll give you that, but I've never ridden a more comfortable road bar.

https://www.northrimadventure.com/product/ritchey-bicycle-components-pro-biomax-ii-road-handlebar-os-1653.htm

On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 4:06:34 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:

[maxcr]

I had the Sim Works co-misirlou bar on my AHH on a short stem and liked it a lot: https://www.sim.works/products/co-misirlou-bar

From the site:

Material :    Heat Treated Aluminium
Width :    390, 410, 430, 450mm (center - center at ends)
Center diam. :    26.0mm
Bar diam. :    23.8mm
Reach :    85mm
Drop :    140mm
Color :    High-polished Silver & Gloss Black

Another option I had considered: Dajia Cycleworks Shallow Drop Handlebar but a quick google search didn't seem to result in places where you can get it.

Max

[Patrick Moore]

Max and George: Thank you. But resolution pending for offer for Hover bar.

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[John Hawrylak]

Nitto M186 STI,           80mm reach & 122mm drop  

Nitto M151AAF,           78mm reach & 128mm drop

Nitto Neat MOD 104,  65mm reach & 140mm drop

Raech/Drop are C-C dimensions

John Hawrylak

Woodstown NJ

On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 5:06:34 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote: