Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

[Bill Lindsay]

Compass posted a photo of a 700x55 Antelope Pass road tire. The post called it a prototype currently under test. That’s going to be an exciting option for many. Who’s going to put them on their Hunqapillar first?

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Ca

[John Phillips]

700 x 55 Compass tires?!?! Oh my Lord, heaven on earth!

Maybe 700 x 55mm Compass knobbies are in the works?

John

[Patrick Moore]

Well, it seems you do miss some things when you forgo social media. I'll be interested when a description (and a photo! I wonder if it will seem as pneumatic as the Rat Trap Pass?) appears on more retrograde platforms.

Jan mentioned a tire like this some time ago, but when I inquired late last year about any forthcoming >=50 mm Compass tire, I got no response, so I went ahead and bought some Big Ones. I'd almost be disappointed, were the Big Ones not so delightful (one rolldown test showed the BOs faster than the road tires tested, and this with tubes). But I'd be interested to learn more about the Compass 29er tire 

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[Bill Eberle in Columbus, Ohio]

Some folks will be measuring chainstay and fork crown clearances.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BhVo5GrBsNj/

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks for posting that. Funny, I write resumes for a lot of marketing execs, and I've had to learn about social media, all the while disdaining to use the things. 

I'll be interested to learn how wide these are in real life.

Patrick Moore, whose bike has room for 60s and fenders, in ABQ, NM

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 8:07 AM, Bill Eberle in Columbus, Ohio <web...@gmail.com> wrote:

Some folks will be measuring chainstay and fork crown clearances.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BhVo5GrBsNj/

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[Chris Lampe 2]

I avoided social media for years and then realized I could set it up to reflect my hobbies.  My Instagram account is 100% bike stuff, my Twitter account is 100% news, etc...   It's a great way to receive instant news....such as these tires!

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 9:25:38 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

Thanks for posting that. Funny, I write resumes for a lot of marketing execs, and I've had to learn about social media, all the while disdaining to use the things. 

I'll be interested to learn how wide these are in real life.

Patrick Moore, whose bike has room for 60s and fenders, in ABQ, NM

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 8:07 AM, Bill Eberle in Columbus, Ohio <web...@gmail.com> wrote:

Some folks will be measuring chainstay and fork crown clearances.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BhVo5GrBsNj/

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[William R.]

Very interesting indeed Bill! That Instagram post wasn’t dated April 1? I wonder if these will fit on my Appaloosa. If my nominal 44mm Snoqualmie Pass tires measure actual width of 41mm, will the new 55s measure 50-51mm on the same rims (Atlas). I will be eager to find out. As it is, 53s (Maxxis Torch) and 54s (Thunderburts) easily fit on the Joe, but Big One’s at 60mm certainly did not. 55mm Compass may be the bees knees.

Bill in Westchester, NY

[Deacon Patrick]

Comment from Jan (I presume, Compass, technically) says late spring/eary summer release. Very tempting. Given how much better my Quickbeam rides trails with compass knobbies vs same or even a bet wider slicks, I’ll likely hold out for a 50-55 knobbie and enjoy my 2.1” Thunderburt liteskins for now on me Hunqapillar. Still. Tempting. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

[Edwin W]

And I JUST got a pair of Snoqualmie pass for my Joe Appa. Well, I guess I'll just have to ride them for a few thousand miles and see how they do before I upgrade.

Edwin

[William R.]

Edwin: you won’t regret it. The Snoq’s are great on my Joe. Wear em out while we wait for this new size!

Bill in Westchester, NY

[John Phillips]

I'm really excited about these new tires, but I thought Jan believed 700c tires this wide were less than optimal. Has he said anything about changing his view, or am I just completely confused and off base here?

John

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 6:14:34 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

[Kieran J]

He certainly did say that at some point. I think that was even prior to the 700x44 came out. Maybe his views have changed.

Apart from Rivs and monstercross-type bikes, what else would these tires go on? 29ers? Seems like a very niche-within-niche product. 

KJ

[Patrick Moore]

I think it's simply that his market demands this sort of tire. And I think that there is a rather big demand for fat, supple 29er tires; I predict these will be best sellers.

I both agree and disagree with Jan's views on wheel size, tire width, and handling, meaning that "optimum" in reference to handling is a word that has to accommodate so many different preferences. I can certainly tell the difference between a 26er with light 55 mm tires, and my Matthews with 29 1/2" tall, 61mm actually wide tires; but given that these last seem to me to handle sand (and small bumps too) better (Jan disagrees), I choose the less nimble handling larger wheels, and find that these are really not bad at all.

On the other extreme: very light, 24 3/4" (559 X 29mm) wheels on my Riv Roads: is the handling of these wheels less "optimum" than 650B X 42? Perhaps to some riders; perhaps even generally, in some theoretical way; but in my own experience over very many different bikes over almost 50 years of assembling or modifying (and certainly buying and flipping) my own, they set a benchmark for good handling -- Grant designed the frames to accommodate such light and short wheels.

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[Zach Roeder]

I kinda doubt his views have changed on what is optimal for his style of riding, but I know that some folks on the internet have been asking for this tire. Also, check out how many different 700c sizes are available. Maybe he wants folks to be able to run the fattest supple rubber they can squeeze into their less-than-optimal frames. All speculation of course!

It definitely is a funny size. Too big for most monstercross frames (assuming the tire measures true to size), kinda small for a 29er. I see folks around here bringing 29ers for gravel rides, so maybe that’s the target audience? In the Riv world, pretty exciting for the Hunq and maybe the Atlantis and Joe. Definitely superniche.

[Tim Bantham]

I am a big believer in Compass tires now that I have spent some time with the Barlow Pass on my Sam. I was initially really excited to see the 700x55 version coming out but I now wonder if they will even fit my Appaloosa. I think the Atlantis and Hunqapillar clearances are a little more generous. I will definitely buy them if I discover that they will fit my bike

[ctifusion]

I've had Compass on three bikes and I can't imagine buying any other tire (except maybe for a total city workhorse/grocery getter). This will fit on the new Atlantis and other RIv bikes with the 2.2 / 55cm clearance?

Brynnar

Indy

[iamkeith]

I'm just guessing like everybody else of course, but I can't imagine this not fitting on the Atlantis or even Tim's Appaloosa.   The Rat Trap Pass comes in at quite a bit under the labeled size so, if the same hold true here, it shouldn't even be close.  

The Hunquapillar and Clem, on the other hand, easily fit the even-larger but similarly-targeted schwalbe super moto/big one/g-one.  To me, the existence of that tire is what makes this one curious indeed.  As noted by others, there's a relatively small, niche set of bikes that could use it.  Even though I have the schwalbes and am happy with them, I strangely feel almost obligated to buy this tire at some point, just to reward Compass for doing such cool stuff.  

[Jon BALER]

Wonder how they will compare to the schwable big ones that are roughly the same size. Can't imagine they could be much lighter than those.