Cheviot questions

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Joel S

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May 13, 2021, 10:16:28 PM5/13/21
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Looking at the geometry charts  it appears that the 50cm Cheviot has 45cm chainstays , so short by Riv’s current standards. Also with sidepull brakes (not sure how this works with room for fat tires).  Can anyone comment on this?

Right now I have 2 Rivs with toptubes and am fine with them.  A step thru might be nice if one of these can be found......  a knee replacement and bad back might make this viable.  

Your info on this bike especially the tire clearance would be appreciated.  I am not a fan of the long chainstay models. Fenders would not be used, I ride in dry conditions. 

Thank you

Joel

Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)

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May 14, 2021, 10:34:39 AM5/14/21
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I can't comment on the 50cm Chev, but I have 700x50 tires on my 60cm with a Tektro R559 sidepull in the rear and there's plenty of clearance. Without fenders, I think you'd be fine clearing a 650bx50 on the smaller model. (From my experience, Riv is rather conservative on their max tire size recommendations.)

Not sure what your PBH is but another option would be a 45cm Clem L (48.5 chainstays) which can fit up to 26x2.4" tires with a V-brake or cantis. 

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May 14, 2021, 12:45:17 PM5/14/21
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Thanks Justin.  If I decided to try and find one the 50 would be the right size.  I know my 55cm Bleriot with sidepull cannot take 48mm tires.  I thought it was the brakes. 


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Pam Bikes

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May 14, 2021, 10:59:33 PM5/14/21
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I have a 50 cm Betty - basically the same as the Cheviot.  I have a 47 cm Betty and know that I have 1 1/2 in wide tires and fenders with sidepulls.  The 50 has sidepulls and the same size tire and I'm sure I can put fenders on it but haven't.  Let me know if you want me to measure it.  I'm in Charlotte, NC and you're welcome to come ride it to see how it fits, feels.

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May 14, 2021, 11:45:38 PM5/14/21
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Thanks Pam, I wish I was closer but you have helped with the clearance question. 

Much appreciated,  

Joel
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exliontamer

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May 15, 2021, 3:25:28 AM5/15/21
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Found an old chart and 650x45mm is the maximum stated width. The bikes seem to be designed around those wide mouth Riv sidepull brakes and the clearance on those is pretty bonkers. I'm riding 38s(I have a 60cm frame) and have a massive amount of room. I know the Platypus has even more room and is a very similar design if 45mm isn't enough tire for you. Also, the top tube is long so if you're not cool with upright bars it may not be a good choice. 
As far as recommending one, I couldn't say enough nice things about it. It's my favorite bike I've owned and the step through makes everything easier. It handles absurdly well at every speed. It's just a fun, comfortable bike that I want to ride. It's definitely everything I like about Rivendell(inclusive, non-aggressive, versatile, good looking, fun) wrapped up in a neat package. 


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May 15, 2021, 9:27:46 AM5/15/21
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Thanks, this helps as I have never heard of wide mouth Riv sidepull brakes.  No wonder my old Bleriot cannot take more (or much more) than 42mm.  

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exliontamer

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May 15, 2021, 9:11:35 PM5/15/21
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My wife's Bleriot has those Dia Compe center pulls(which work incredibly well) and I've fit 42s fendered under there but every twig she ran over got caught up in the fenders. It looks like Soma still sells the Riv side pulls https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/rivendell-silver-73mm-caliper-f-r-set-2863?category=169 but I think these are the same thing https://www.rivbike.com/collections/braking/products/brakes-sidepull-tektro-r559-allen
I'm not trying to fuel anything here but I have shoulder issues and riding upright really helped me out. I'd never presume to know what your knee issues are like but I think the Yves, Betty, Cheviot, or Platypus would be a nice choice for something like that. 


Justin Kennedy

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May 15, 2021, 9:21:50 PM5/15/21
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The Tektro R559’s are the same as the Riv Silver side pulls. The latter are no longer made and Tektro has taken the design mainstream. 

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May 15, 2021, 9:23:41 PM5/15/21
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I have the original tektro side pull that Riv sold at the time for the Bleriot, I assume the Silver are the same but private labeled.  My right knee had a replacement almost 3 years ago, I was not one of the lucky ones who bounced back really easily.  I ride but pay the piper afterwards but more my back than knee.  I get some RFA treatments and it seems to help my back.  My replaced knee just had a treatment but it is too soon to tell.  I fear one day lifting it over the TT may become an issue but it is not a problem at this point.  

Thanks for the info.  I have np even disappointed in Soma’s Customer Service, maybe those Tekro brakes Riv is selling are different than the ones I have, or maybe the bike or maybe the Bleriot just does not have much extra clearance.  I had Berthoud fenders on it but they always seemed a pain. 

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