who has MUSA pants?

[jim_OLP]

I'm considering them but I read one review saying they were billowy in
front, and I hate pants like that. I'm a thin guy and am so tired of
wearing the baggy stuff in stores today. I could maybe overlook the
weird blue crotch that looks like you just sat on something wet, but
if they're balloon-cut upstairs, that's a deal-breaker. Any thin guys
wearing these?

[stevep33]

Gosh, now I feel weird about the pants I wear almost every day.

I'm thin, average height. MUSA pants fit just right, not to tight or
billowy. The velcro cuffs are key. Great pants.

[JoelMatthews]

I am certainly thin. Sounds as though my sartorial preferences may be
opposite yours, however. I cannot stand, and do not wear skin tight
riding garments. At least with pants and shorts I find regular fit
can chaffe. So I prefer to wear looser pants and shorts.

I only use the MUSA on tours. They are perfect for that.
Comfortable, pack small and well, and clean up easily. When it is
cold I can easily wear a long legged base layer under them. When it
is warm out, the loose fit allows plenty of ventilation.

[LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com]

Hi Jim,

I guess I fall into the thin category--6'1", 185 pounds--I really like
my MUSA pants and found that I had to buy a size larger than I'm
accustomed to so that the thighs weren't too tight.

lyle

[Bill Connell]

I'm the same way - 6'3", about 210lbs, and i wish i'd gotten the XL;
the large are a little more snug in the thigh than i'd like.

--
Bill Connell
St. Paul, MN

[PATRICK MOORE]

I'm 5'10" honest, bare feet on cement, with a long torso, 30.5" inseam, 34" waist; sitting, am as tall as my 6'1" Scandinavian bro in law, and I don't like baggy. I just ordered Smalls. Did I do wrong?

[Anne Paulson]

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:45 AM, JoelMatthews <joelma...@mac.com> wrote:
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> I only use the MUSA on tours.  They are perfect for that.
> Comfortable, pack small and well, and clean up easily.  When it is
> cold I can easily wear a long legged base layer under them.  When it
> is warm out, the loose fit allows plenty of ventilation.
>

I too like the MUSA pants for tours. I took them on my last tour,
Eugene Oregon to San Jose CA by way of the Pacific Coast, in late
September/early October. On cool mornings I would wear them over my
shorts, taking them off as the day warmed up. In the evening, I'd wear
them around the campground. One night the temperature dipped down to
the 30's, brr. I was happy that my wool longies (which I wear for PJs)
fit comfortably under the MUSA pants that chilly morning.

--
-- Anne Paulson

He who wills the ends wills the means

[Anne Paulson]

They'll be snug, but maybe that's what you want.

[cyclotourist]

I wish the MUSA pants/shorts/K-nicks had a touch of lyrcra or similar stretchy material.  That extra little bit of give is the only thing they're missing.

DE

--
Cheers,
David
Redlands, CA

"Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym."  ~Bill Nye, scientist guy

[Seth Vidal]

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:02 AM, cyclotourist <cyclot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wish the MUSA pants/shorts/K-nicks had a touch of lyrcra or similar
> stretchy material.  That extra little bit of give is the only thing they're
> missing.
>

I can see a tiny bit of stretch being nice, yes. I also wish the
length was selectable independent of waist.

I have to roll mine a bit and if I lose too much weight I'll have to
buy smaller ones. :)

-sv

[Jude]

Just for reference. I'm thin - 5'8" 145lbs - and the small fit me
just right. I decided on the small because riv listed them as "full
cut" in the quad area. I've been riding more regularly and the legs
seem more snug. I will consider a medium when I order the next pair.

The pants feel great with only one layer (undies or woolies)
underneath. With bike shorts they still fit well. With woolies and
bike shorts underneath they just start to feel snug. They have been
my first choice for about a year - they're so thin and "not there".
Even if it's raining I'll wear them because they cling without being
annoying and dry out quick. With woolies underneath you don't even
notice the rain.

The fabric has held up better than expected. The saddle has given
back some of it's dye and natural oils. The discoloration is
persisting between washes but I can't blame the pants. The amount of
wear is much lower than the abuse given.

The details are useful. Deep pockets, velcro to cinch the leg as
knickers. Overall, highly recommended.

-Jude

P.S. - I was hoping the riv MUSA rain pants would give me a winter
riding solution. I just can't get over the orange. I don't mind
garish colors but I already wear a bright yellow raincoat for all
weather. The clash between orange and yellow is just too much. When
you ride your bike full time you have to wear your pants - to work,
with friends, to dinner, art openings - they just don't work if
they're orange. I'm already known as "the guy who wears strange bike
clothes" - but ORANGE - my social life just can't take it.

On Nov 11, 9:40 pm, "LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com" <lylebog...@gmail.com>
wrote:

[EricP]

I'm definitely not thin (6' about 233 right now). The XL pants fit
right. And can layer something underneath when it gets cold. For
example, the not so tights Rivendell sells.

Have one set of L sized shorts, butternut color. They are tight
around my thighs. I can wear them. But it's not a pretty sight.

My preference is for fairly baggy clothing.

As an aside, according to the body mass index, I'd have to drop down
below 180 to be considered "normal".

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

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[Mike]

I have the shorts, knickers and pants and am very happy with them for
touring. The shorts were great this past summer on some casual rides
on very hot days. I wish the shorts were a tad longer and not quite as
wide around the opening. I wear them with ExOfficio underwear which
seems to be a good combo.

I agree with others that a tad bit of lycra would be nice.

--mike

[PATRICK MOORE]

Thanks. I want trim but not tight. I chose based on the inseam and waist measurements given, so I suppose my question comes down to, how accurate are those measurements? I guess I'll find out in a few days.

It's just that I have never worn "small" before.

--
Patrick Moore
Albuquerque, NM
For professional resumes, contact
Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumesp...@gmail.com
(505) 227-0523

[PATRICK MOORE]

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:31 AM, Jude <jei...@gmail.com> wrote:

Just for reference.  I'm thin - 5'8" 145lbs - and the small fit me
just right.

Hmmm -- I'm 2" taller and 170; perhaps I'll be returning for a medium. We'll see. Probably should have ordered by phone and not online. But then I gather you like loose ...

[JoelMatthews]

Waist is not that much of an issue as the design incorporates a cinch
belt (or whatever you call that belt in belt dealy) inside an elastic
band. I am just under 6' with a 33 inch inseam. The length of the
large is just right for me with the shoes I wear for touring.

I am 165 and lose weight fast on tour, so the large are a bit baggy.
No problem for me. As Anne notes, it is real easy to wear a pair of
long wool base layer underneath that way. You are a lot farther south
than I, so all that layering may not be as much an issue for you as it
is for me.

On Nov 12, 8:49 am, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks. I want trim but not tight. I chose based on the inseam and waist
> measurements given, so I suppose my question comes down to, how accurate are
> those measurements? I guess I'll find out in a few days.
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> It's just that I have never worn "small" before.
>

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> > wrote:
> > > I'm 5'10" honest, bare feet on cement, with a long torso, 30.5" inseam,
> > 34"
> > > waist; sitting, am as tall as my 6'1" Scandinavian bro in law, and I
> > don't
> > > like baggy. I just ordered Smalls. Did I do wrong?
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> > They'll be snug, but maybe that's what you want.
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> > --
> > -- Anne Paulson
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> > He who wills the ends wills the means
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> --
> Patrick Moore
> Albuquerque, NM
> For professional resumes, contact

> Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com
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[IPATOM]

Hi Jim,
I'm 6 foot tall and weigh 140 soaking wet so am pretty thin. I wear
the MUSA long pants and they don't billow but lay flat in the front.
The seat billows out a bit but this actually works best on the bike
because you never feel constrained in the saddle. My wife
complimented me on how the pants look and she'd be the first to
criticise if she didn't like them. I bought the mediums and they work
fine for me...I actually like the two-tone effect...distinctive but
not too wierd for my tastes.

On Nov 11, 10:19 am, jim_OLP <j...@landoloons.com> wrote:

[RonaTD]

'nother data point ... I'm 5' 7" and 125, well, more like 120
currently. I wear size small in the old brown version of MUSA pants
and find them to be just right, with a fair amount of the elastic belt
cut off. I use them very often for commuting when it gets down to the
mid 50's, all the way down to single digits (with wool underneath).
They're a little more flappy in the thigh area than my old Supplex
wind pants from Performance. For "fast" rides or when it's breezy, I
prefer the tighter cut, but for just riding around, the MUSAs are
great.

Has anybody else had their MUSA pants shrink? I'm certain that mine
shrank a bit after the first wash/dry. They were a tad long when I
first got them, now they're a tad short.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI, USA

[beth h]

I got a pair of the shorts some years ago, and I like them as summer
knockabout shorts AND as swim trunks (Sun damage requires I cover up
more than most swimsuits allow). Because I live in the rainy NW, I
never thought about buying the pants or knickers -- the fabric would
be too lightweight for most of my commuting, for three seasons of the
year.
Beth

On Nov 11, 10:19 am, jim_OLP <j...@landoloons.com> wrote:

> I'm considering them ...

[Thomas Lynn Skean]

There are at least two different fabrics with which the MUSA shorts/
knickers/pants have been made. The year-old butternut/olive shorts and
pants I have are made of thin wispy nylon a la Ex Officio Amphi pants.
The grey/blue pants and olive shorts I have are much more substantial;
different enough that I wear the grey/blue pants down to about 40
degrees before I switch to wool-under-butternut/olive (down to about
20 degrees). Below 20 it's wool-under-grey/blue; maybe a lot of wool
if it's way below 20!

Grey/blue alone are good for rain down to 45-50, butternut/olive are
really only good for 65+ rain. They're really different.

In all of them, though, the crotch is that tough Taslan stuff, I
think.

The butternut/olive ones are billowy even on me (6', 250lb). The
others are more normal. Billowy is fine for me, especially when it's
90+. No speed racer I!

I'm sure they aren't the only reasonable clothes for cycling that
exist. But I've been *very* happy riding in almost all MUSA/RBW almost
all the time since I started biking as part of my commute.


Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

[Bruce]

I didn't like the grayish fabric all that well in the knickers I ued to have, so I passed them along to another rider. I have 2 pr of the original butternut and agree that they are lighter. Here in AL, it is warm most of the year and lighter is better. Less billowy would be nicer, but black undershorts keeps things decent in case of head winds. Riding with anything in the front pockets is a drag though, as the filled pockets hang down beneath the hem of the shorts. Perhaps the heavier fabric prevents this.

The Boosuckers are less billowy, and more comfortable, but the bottom line is that I like both types that I have.

---

From: Thomas Lynn Skean <thomasl...@comcast.net>
Subject: [RBW] Re: who has MUSA pants?

[jim_OLP]

I think all you guys have convinced me the mediums will be ok. I
particularly appreciate learning about the difference in the fabrics
of grey vs. olive. I'm going to get a grey pair and just pray that
the crazy blue crotch is less noticeable than it appears in the photos
because t my age no one is going to believe I'm a performer with
Cirque du Soleil. Obviously this color scheme sprang from the same
mind that conceived the orange rain pants - which would be ok, by the
way, except that I don't have a red rubber nose to go with them.