Saddles destroying my jeans! Advice?

[Eric Karnes]

Hi all-

Looking for some advice. I have a Brooks Cambium on my SimpleOne commuter. I love the saddle, but it's destroyed two pairs of nice jeans in very short order (and every leather Brooks I've had has bled dye pretty badly). I'd love to solve it with a dedicated pair of riding pants, but this is my main mode of transportation, so I need to be able to ride it in my everyday clothes.

Anyone recommend a saddle that doesn't wear out the crotches of pants too easily and doesn't bleed dye? It needn't be super comfortable over long distances, as this is my city ride.

Thanks!

Eric

[sameness]

Saddle cover! I primarily use the old grey one Riv used to make/sell, but the Aardvark works fine, too.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

[Bill Gibson]

Slick Saddle Cover. Slides a little, so it wears out instead of pants. Don't need to go fancy. Even a shower cap works. I'm not sure the stretchy vinyl kind of saddle covers are still around, which are good, but I have a Carradice that works. But you know why bike shorts are black.

Eric

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Bill Gibson
Tempe, Arizona, USA

[Christopher Murray]

Get some Wranglers!!

Cheers!
Chris

[Johnny Alien]

While the covers will work it seems silly to have a saddle that you can't use without a cover on it.  Saddles are a personal thing but my usual go to when it isn't a Brooks is a Fizik Aliante on a road bike and a WTB saddle for almost anything else.  They are well made, comfortable, cheap and light.  The Rocket is the one I usually go to and they start as low as $40.

[Mojo]

I too have found the WTB saddles quite comfortable. The Pure is about 148mm across the back (from memory), and like Brooks has a flat back and a fore-aft dip. The make four different Pure saddles starting at about $40.

[Deacon Patrick]

Rivet. Debbie's great to work with and the saddles are brilliant. I ride a Diablo on both my Hunqa and QB. One white, one black. No bleed ever.

With abandon,

Patrick

[Kevin Lindsey]

I second the Rivet.  I have one on my Hunq and another on a Moots go-fast, and love 'em.  They're a bit pricey but comfortable and, so far, no evidence of bleed.
Kevin

[John A. Bennett]

For those jeans, you can always send them to: http://www.indigoproof.com/repair-your-jeans/denim-repair-1

Rain, the owner, works magic here in Portland with vintage sewing machines. 

JAB @ Rivelo in PDX

[John Stowe]

I have had no issues with staining from my "natural" (undyed) leather Brooks. I still wear through crotches on a regular basis, though, even on the smooth leather - I just had to "retire" (to gardening duty) another pair of shorts last week.

-John

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:56:28 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote:

[Deacon Patrick]

For me, these wear really well. Made for rubbing and abrasion in a way denim is not. They are my main knickers now (my wife cuts um and adds elastic.)

http://www.duluthtrading.com/search/searchresults/86125.aspx?kw=fire%20hose%20jeans&processor=content

With abandon,

Patrick

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 8:56:28 PM UTC-6, Eric Karnes wrote:

[Bill in Roswell GA]

I know the jeans dilemma. Once you find a brand and model that works, change is hard to face. So, if I may offer some food for thought. 

Maybe it's the jeans and how they fit? Perhaps try the Levi's (or other brand) cycling jeans that have a hint of lycra in them? 

I got around the Brooks dye bleeding by purchasing an older used one in black (when the leather was thick), though not super black like a new one - it's well broken in . Don't know what dye process Brooks uses, but my old Turbo and Rolls saddles are black leather and never noticed any bleeding issue while wearing khaki shorts. Rivet backs up their saddles with a warranty, which may make the cost tolerable as an investment. 

Also, have you tried a saddle with a narrower nose just to see if that helps? 

Good luck!

Bill in Roswell, GA

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:56:28 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote:

[doc]

Bailey's Wild Ass Jeans.  Not my first choice for riding, but by far the best bang for the buck for work pants.  I have several pairs of the double layer for timber work that I do.  

http://www.baileysonline.com/Clothing/Men-s-Clothing/Jeans/Wild-Ass/Wild-Ass-US-Made-Single-Front-Blue-Denim-Logger-Pants.axd  

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:56:28 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote:

[RJM]

I agree with Johnny here...get a saddle that doesn't bleed dye. There just isn't a reason a saddle has to be made out of leather...plenty of good ones out there that can sit out in the rain and not bleed.

My cross bike has a WTB saddle and it is comfortable and my road bike had the stock Trek saddle that the Emonda SL6 comes with...and that is also very comfortable. Never had one issue out of those saddles.

[Eric Karnes]

thanks all!

i'm pretty sure the destroying of the jeans is due to the rough texture of the cambium (though it does smooth out the longer you own it) and the rivet right at the nose of the saddle. if i can't find a saddle cover that fits, i'll try one of those wtb saddles. i'd love a rivet, but this is my daily commuter and gets locked up / rained on in center city philadelphia. so the cheaper / more weatherproof the better.

eric