Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

I have been riding my big blue Clementine like it’s my JOB this year. I’ve got 960 miles on that Blue Beauty and it’s only May, which is really good for living in a car-centric suburb like mine. I wanted to do 2020 miles in 2020, and the COVID crisis has put me ahead of schedule. With my husband commandeering our bedroom as his office, one son Zooming his middle school classes in the downstairs office, and my 2nd son Zooming 5th grade at my kitchen table, there hasn’t been any places left for me in my house. It seems I have no choice but to hit the road. Oh, twist my arm, why don’t you. “Are you going out on your two-wheeler? Gonna hit the old dusty trail?” my husband will ask. “Yes, I am doing this for YOU,” I say. 

Compounding the issue is that I never leave before one mug of coffee, and that mug cannot be rushed. So, I rarely get out there before 7:30 when the sun is high in the sky. This is Vegas, and it’s hot here - we are in the 90s and not a cloud in the sky most recently. Enclosed is a photo of my tan line, and I haven’t even spent much time in the pool yet. Yikes. I’ve been wearing some non-toxic sunscreen but honestly, it’s just better to cover up. But how do you cover up when it’s so hot outside? I can’t imagine wearing pants and long sleeves, but I also don’t want sun damage and skin cancer, so I figured I’d come here and see what you folks do. 

What clothing could I wear that would protect my skin without making me sweat to death? Linen would be a good option, right? But where do you get linen riding clothing? 

Thanks!

Leah

[Andrew Erman]

Leah, you may already be aware of these products but there are some clothing that are designed to protect the active person form UV.  I have never tried this type of clothing in weather such as you get in Vegas.  Good luck!  As a recipient of 3 skin cancer surgeries, I can understand your desire for protection.  Best, Andy

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[Leah Peterson]

Andy, did you attach a link somewhere and I’m not seeing it?

I’m so sorry about your skin cancers. Ugh, really scary. I had an end stage melanoma patient once, and it really left an impression on me. I’m going for my annual dermatology visit when this crisis is over. 

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Leah, you may already be aware of these products but there are some clothing that are designed to protect the active person form UV.  I have never tried this type of clothing in weather such as you get in Vegas.  Good luck!  As a recipient of 3 skin cancer surgeries, I can understand your desire for protection.  Best, Andy

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[Andrew Erman]

Leah,

Here are some links.  My dermatologist said that people often don’t have sun related skin cancers after the 3rd one because they become more careful.  So far so good for me.  And I hope he is right!

Best,

Andy

https://www.roadbikerider.com/top-cycling-apparel-uv-protection/

https://www.rei.com/c/cycling-clothing/f/f-sun-protective-fabric

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[Deacon Patrick]

A number of thoughts from cooler but higher altitude Colorado where all day bikepacking trips are a sun challenge:

- I sunburn far less since eliminating industrial oils from my diet (soy, canola, etc).

- Calendula oil does wonders for healing burns rapidly. Also brilliant as a disinfectent and for rapid healing of scrapes.

- Loose, long sleeve, lightweight chambray or similar all cotton shirt. Similarly for pants. Gramicci is worth looking into there.

- I wear either cotton shorts, and sunscreen as needed, or wool breeks.

- For heat, a bandana rolled up and soaked works great and refresh as needed. Cools the blood going up and down the neck and via evaporation.

With abandon,

Patrick

On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 6:27:40 PM UTC-6, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

Andy, did you attach a link somewhere and I’m not seeing it?

I’m so sorry about your skin cancers. Ugh, really scary. I had an end stage melanoma patient once, and it really left an impression on me. I’m going for my annual dermatology visit when this crisis is over. 

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On May 17, 2020, at 5:08 PM, Andrew Erman <aer...@ucla.edu> wrote:

Leah, you may already be aware of these products but there are some clothing that are designed to protect the active person form UV.  I have never tried this type of clothing in weather such as you get in Vegas.  Good luck!  As a recipient of 3 skin cancer surgeries, I can understand your desire for protection.  Best, Andy

On May 17, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have been riding my big blue Clementine like it’s my JOB this year. I’ve got 960 miles on that Blue Beauty and it’s only May, which is really good for living in a car-centric suburb like mine. I wanted to do 2020 miles in 2020, and the COVID crisis has put me ahead of schedule. With my husband commandeering our bedroom as his office, one son Zooming his middle school classes in the downstairs office, and my 2nd son Zooming 5th grade at my kitchen table, there hasn’t been any places left for me in my house. It seems I have no choice but to hit the road. Oh, twist my arm, why don’t you. “Are you going out on your two-wheeler? Gonna hit the old dusty trail?” my husband will ask. “Yes, I am doing this for YOU,” I say. 

Compounding the issue is that I never leave before one mug of coffee, and that mug cannot be rushed. So, I rarely get out there before 7:30 when the sun is high in the sky. This is Vegas, and it’s hot here - we are in the 90s and not a cloud in the sky most recently. Enclosed is a photo of my tan line, and I haven’t even spent much time in the pool yet. Yikes. I’ve been wearing some non-toxic sunscreen but honestly, it’s just better to cover up. But how do you cover up when it’s so hot outside? I can’t imagine wearing pants and long sleeves, but I also don’t want sun damage and skin cancer, so I figured I’d come here and see what you folks do. 

What clothing could I wear that would protect my skin without making me sweat to death? Linen would be a good option, right? But where do you get linen riding clothing? 

Thanks!

Leah

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[masmojo]

Leah, This may sound odd, but I have several Motorcross shirts. (I think they make ladies as well) or you could look at mountain biking jerseys I have one by Kona

The things I like about these:

- Long Sleeve

- Variety of designs from Subdued to High Vis

- light weight mesh material that is not tight or form fitting, but not too baggy either, breaths pretty well and I am not terrible uncomfortable until it gets to the high 80's and even then it's OK as log as the sun isn't beating down your neck or there's a decent breeze. Above 88 or so & I am gonna go short sleeve and likely a cycling jersey of some sort.

 I saw some branded Santa Cruz on Epay for pretty cheap and ladies MTB jerseys can be cheap on there too.

As soon as it gets hot i start riding on the shady side of the street!!!

https://troyleedesigns.com/collections/new-arrival-jerseys   (check out the Sale section as well)

Fox, Has stuff like this; Maybe not ideal, but might give you some idea's??: https://www.foxracing.com/womens-ranger-drirelease%C2%AE-3%2F4-jersey/23239.html?dwvar_23239_color=001&dwvar_23239_size=XS&cgid=sale-mtb#prefn1=gender&prefv1=female&start=13

Might be some women's oriented stuff? Terry maybe?

Oh Yeah! http://www.terrybicycles.com/Apparel/Cycling-Tops?gclid=CjwKCAjwwYP2BRBGEiwAkoBpAgtdXnDwyndkH7BK8xfc4tceM5_IkN1pWa2GN5x4PKxuSXR8XpqcsRoCa1YQAvD_BwE&matchtype=e&keyword=terry+bikes&clicktype=sitelink&device=c&creative=100489492038

I feel like I should apologize; it certainly seems like the lions share of this type thing is Male oriented! 

Mas

On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 7:27:40 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

Andy, did you attach a link somewhere and I’m not seeing it?

I’m so sorry about your skin cancers. Ugh, really scary. I had an end stage melanoma patient once, and it really left an impression on me. I’m going for my annual dermatology visit when this crisis is over. 

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On May 17, 2020, at 5:08 PM, Andrew Erman <aer...@ucla.edu> wrote:

Leah, you may already be aware of these products but there are some clothing that are designed to protect the active person form UV.  I have never tried this type of clothing in weather such as you get in Vegas.  Good luck!  As a recipient of 3 skin cancer surgeries, I can understand your desire for protection.  Best, Andy

On May 17, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have been riding my big blue Clementine like it’s my JOB this year. I’ve got 960 miles on that Blue Beauty and it’s only May, which is really good for living in a car-centric suburb like mine. I wanted to do 2020 miles in 2020, and the COVID crisis has put me ahead of schedule. With my husband commandeering our bedroom as his office, one son Zooming his middle school classes in the downstairs office, and my 2nd son Zooming 5th grade at my kitchen table, there hasn’t been any places left for me in my house. It seems I have no choice but to hit the road. Oh, twist my arm, why don’t you. “Are you going out on your two-wheeler? Gonna hit the old dusty trail?” my husband will ask. “Yes, I am doing this for YOU,” I say. 

Compounding the issue is that I never leave before one mug of coffee, and that mug cannot be rushed. So, I rarely get out there before 7:30 when the sun is high in the sky. This is Vegas, and it’s hot here - we are in the 90s and not a cloud in the sky most recently. Enclosed is a photo of my tan line, and I haven’t even spent much time in the pool yet. Yikes. I’ve been wearing some non-toxic sunscreen but honestly, it’s just better to cover up. But how do you cover up when it’s so hot outside? I can’t imagine wearing pants and long sleeves, but I also don’t want sun damage and skin cancer, so I figured I’d come here and see what you folks do. 

What clothing could I wear that would protect my skin without making me sweat to death? Linen would be a good option, right? But where do you get linen riding clothing? 

Thanks!

Leah

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[Craig Montgomery]

Greetings from the Great Southwest.

Here you go Leah. Some good examples. I've worn Railrider stuff. Pretty good and some are "caped."  

https://www.railriders.com/women-outdoor-clothing-sun-protection-clothing-c-125_138.html

But I prefer 100% cotton and, yes, you should be wearing long sleeves or SPF arm covers. L.L. Bean has shirts are "caped" also, a slit on the back with a mesh lining for cooling. 

https://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/512894?page=womens-sun-protection

I won't suggest cycling clothing. Too tight fitting and doesn't breath (polyester) no matter what they tell you.  Back in the old days you could get cotton cycling stuff but the marketers have nixed that. We're lucky because a good tight weave cotton (like from L.L. Bean or Cabelas) is excellent in our low humidity climate. Loose fitting clothes will press against you then pull away from your skin pulling moisture with it, enhancing evaporative cooling. I like the RailRider stuff, even though it's oil based nylon, because it's loose fitting and very thin. Does the flapping thing quite well. 

And get yourself up Charleston Peak. Some fun high elevation riding. 

Craig in Tucson

[Eric Myers]

Hi Leah,

I'm in Sacramento where we have a similar hot and dry conditions, though a little cooler than Vegas, I think.  

My recommendation is to get the lightest weight, 100% merino wool, long sleeve base layer or t-shirt you can find.  150 weight or lower, not 250.  Get a good one that is soft, not cheap and scratchy.  Slightly loose but not baggy is good.  Women's often come in lighter colors, which is also good.  Wool is sort of a miracle fiber, it wicks and breathes better than any synthetic I've found, doesn't feel clammy and dries quickly, and doesn't even need to be washed as often as other materials.  It also hangs/drapes better than cotton.  Bonus is that you can also wear the same shirt as insulation in the winter.

I wear a long sleeve merino T or base layer as sunscreen on the bike, on snow, and on the water.  It can still get warm, but the wicking and breathability combine to beat everything else I've ever tried.  I've worn cotton, linen, ramie, and rayon in knits and weaves and some seersucker.   None of them worked as well, or looked better with sweat marks, or dried as fast and comfortably as light weight wool.  I actually wear merino dress shirts for the same reasons.

I wish I had something as useful to suggest for pants.  I still use sunscreen on the hands, and on the face and neck when a hat won't work.  Sometimes I wear a buff or bandana for the neck instead.

Cheers,

Eric

[velomann]

For hot weather touring my clothing is pretty dialed in, simple, and inexpensive. Loose, knee length synthetic hiking shorts, preferably gusseted so the seam isn't up the middle, with a padded cycling liner underneath. Get a liner that can be worn alone if you want - I like the one from REI. I like Patagonia Gi shorts but there's lots of options. For a shirt I like a loose fitting long sleeve cotton/poly blend UV protection shirt with a back vent. I get them at Goodwill for about 10 bucks. Columbia Sportswear is a common brand but lots of others make similar items. And a bandana around my neck always, wetted when opportunity arises.

Last summer I did a two-week, 900 mile tour in that outfit. One shirt, one pair of shorts, two liners, one bandana. On-road temps occasionally at 100, a lot of afternoons in the upper 80s-90s. 

Mike M

On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 4:58:35 PM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

[Robert Tilley]

Riv used to sell seersucker shirts for hot weather riding. Seersucker is nice because the fabric suckers so only bits of it contacts your skin.

I've had over 20 skin cancers surgically removed with one being a melanoma. I got lots of sun early in life and it all catches up later. I try and avoid being out between 10 & 3 or so but if I do go out I wear spf 50 long sleeve shirts and knickers since they cover past my knees. I wear a wide brim hat rather than a helmet as well. Ex Officio is one brand of shirts I have that have high spf.

Robert Tilley
San Diego, CA

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[Roberta]

I use these UV sunblock arm sleeves: https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bike-clothing/cycling-arm-leg-warmers/bontrager-uv-sunstop-cycling-arm-cover/p/22817/ Surprisingly , they don't add much warmth. I'll try Deacon Patricks wetting bandana sugestion for these once it gets hot here.

Glacier Glove UV gloves that someone here recommended to me last year: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001OPK2W6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Sunscreen on my knees, although I'm thinking about getting these Aero Tech Pedal pushers for summer riding (they also make men's clothing): https://www.aerotechdesigns.com/womens-urban-pedal-pusher-capri.html . I also have yoga bottoms of a similar length, but they are warm. A friend of mine walks a lot and gets sunburned on the back of her calves, so if I walk I'm going to start using sunscreen there.

Two bandanas - one tied in the front with the flap protecting back of my neck, one tied in back with flap protecting décolletage. I have bandanas from Riv and from Target. The Target ones are more loosely woven, so they are not quite as hot, but both sets still warm me. I'm going to try Deacon Patrick's wetting suggestion.

Alba Botanica mineral sunscreen on my face and/or Bare Minerals foundation (for non exercise outdoors). Sunscreen on shoulders if they are exposed. Other sunscreen on body if I forgo physical coverup. Big floppy hat when I remember. I also bought a stick hat pin last year to help the hat from flying off my head with wind.

[Garth]

  Oh yes I do love my Glacier Gloves too Roberta !   Sun Sleeves and/or arm warmers/coolers are very versatile as they can be worn with any short sleeve shirt. You'll stay cooler with your arms/body covered than not. The fabric itself really isn't all that important. Everyone is drawn to what they like. Notice you don't see naked people running around in the Sahara desert ! 

  Myself I love the feel of Defeet Armskins.  They are a tubular knit, no seams, and feel fabulous like a seconds skin on your arms. While they are "supposedly" for cool weather, don't let that fool you.  They are fabulous in heat as they absorb perspiration and then that creates a cooling effect in the breeze. They comes in various colors. I prefer the thicker D-Logo ones to the SL,but that's just me. I always turn to logo thing to the inside of my wrist. 

https://defeet.com/collections/arm-warmers

Otherwise any long sleeve shirt will do. Wear something you like of course, not because it offers "protection" because there is no such thing. All the protection in the world has never protected anyone from the need for more protection. Rigged game. 

[tuolumne bikes]

Agreed on the long sleeve Merino base layers. I prefer the long sleeves to wearing more sunscreen, and prefer them on the slightly loose side. Wool won't stink, but it can build up a noticeable white salt layer on extended rides in extreme heat--evidence that the wicking works. Lightweight Merino tops do start to get faded/thread bare on the shoulders/back after about three years at which point I don't think they have much sun screening effect.

I have taken to wearing REI Savanna pants on the bike. They are remarkably light and tough, and they have bungee drawstrings sewn into the cuffs. I hike them up over my calves when riding and slip them down if I need to look like less of a goofball. Best of all, they're sized by waist/length, so I can get them to fit my ridiculously long legs. Buy a size up in waist if you have bike rider thighs.

Around here (CA Sierra) summer rides either start early or are in the high country.

Carl

[Neil Doran]

Definitely a fan of loose, long sleeves here in hot n dry Sacramento, CA area. Any of the 'sun shirts' marketed by the likes of REI do the trick for me, but my favorite is a 50/50 number I got at the local thrift store for $5. Been wearing that one for a few years now, cannot believe the quality. Why is it my favorite? One word: SNAPS. I just love snaps over buttons, especially with gloves. I wish more makers would oblige this bit of functionality.

[George Schick]

Deacon's remark about better tolerance for the sun's UV radiation after having eliminated various non-beneficial oils from his diet makes me wonder if our diets are interfering with out body's vitamin D uptake.  A certain amount of sun for the benefit of its ability to induce our vitamin D production is not a bad thing.  Blood tests in recent years revealed that I was way low on several vitamins and minerals, D among them, and I've been taking supplements ever since.  As far as that goes, some in the medical field have been saying recently that the many herbicides, pesticides, etc. used in the growth of various cereals, not to mention the antibiotics stuffed into animals, have negatively impacted our immune systems and therefore our ability to fight off viruses.  Food for thought and consideration.

[lconley]

My most essential piece of sun protection is my Da Brim attached to my Giro Bishop helmet. I never wore a helmet too often unless I had to, but now that I am married, that has changed. I am a fair skinned blue-eyed blonde so I normally wore a hat. Just a helmet is not much protection. I love this thing (pictured sitting on a Betty Foy):

Laing

Delray Beach FL

[Jeffrey Arita]

I believe it was Grant at Riv that got me on the seersucker material thing (several years ago?).  I was able to test the clothing material on a tour my wife and I did last summer (ACA's CHI -> NYC route).  It was of course hot and humid and the shortsleeve seersucker shirts I wore were quite comfortable and cool - despite wearing a backpack-style hydration pack.  IF you didn't wear a hydration pack I imagine it would be even cooler.  Be advised: be especially careful entering any air-conditioned convenience store.  I nearly froze inside as they typically had the AC set so darned low.  It felt much better when going back out into the summer heat.

Consider perhaps a long-sleeved seersucker blouse/shirt?  The material provides a huge amount of surface area for evaporative cooling as you roll along.  The material hopefully provides some level of SPF.

Good luck!

Jeff

[Bill Rhea]

Hi Leah, that is one sweet-looking Clementine!

Funny but I was thinking about the sun protection thing as I just retired my first plaid MUSA seersucker as it's literally "holy" to the point where my GF is embarrassed to see me in it....

I actually really, really like these REI synthetic long sleevers for the hottest days: https://www.rei.com/product/120043/rei-co-op-sahara-long-sleeve-shirt-womens

It gets plenty hot here in Napa (though not like Vegas) and I wear this kind of long-sleever without it feeling too hot, even with sleeves down.  I wear a bandanna also, and between that and the collar you get great neck protection.

Cheers,

-Bill Rhea

Napa, CA

On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 4:58:35 PM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

[Leah Peterson]

Wow, you all are fantastic and I am so pleased with all these responses. I’m taking several of your ideas/suggestions and am putting them into practice. 

~ I hadn’t really thought about my neck very much; I have several Riv bandannas and will soak them and tie around my neck.

~ I ordered arm sleeves made from UPF (UV protection factor) 50 on Amazon and will wear those to cover my arms. I have biking gloves, but when they wear out I’ll get the Glacier ones Roberta and Garth suggest.

~ I spent a small fortune at REI and LL Bean getting seersucker/cotton tops that will breathe nicely in the heat of summer rides. Prana at REI even offered something called a “sun shirt” that I got on sale. 

By the way - the sales are great right now. If you need clothing, you should check out REI and LL Bean. 

I do know about hydrogenated oils affecting our diets. I don’t eat much processed food and use olive oil and coconut oils in my kitchen. I get pasture-raised, organic meats so as to cut down on harmful omega 6s, and I do take an omega 3 and vitamin d3 with k2. I believe sunscreen to be rather toxic (see what it’s doing to marine life) so I try to use a natural version that won’t harm the environment (and hopefully me), but prefer to cover up instead.

Lastly, when I was at Costco last week I saw this UPF sun hat and impulsively tossed it in my cart. It’s got a drawstring inside so you can adjust the fit. I LOVE it. Somehow the look changes and it always looks right. It can look outdoorsy, polished, beach, retro - all depending on what you wear with it. If you need a hat, grab this one on your next Costco run!

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[Nick Payne]

Here in Australia, both my wife and myself wear Groundeffect long sleeve summer tops when the weather gets hot. They're made from a lightweight material that has an UPF of at least 50. The women's range of these tops is here: https://www.groundeffect.co.nz/collections/womens-summer-tops. Here in Australia I can order from Groundeffect in NZ and delivery only takes a few days, but particularly with the present situation, I don't know what the delivery time to the US would be.

They also make pretty good Winter cycling gear as well.

Nick

[Mike Packard]

I think I'm going to try one of these capilene cool hoody things, hopefully the hood will work under my helmet to provide neck protection. Has anyone seen a merino equivalent?

https://www.rei.com/product/146801/patagonia-capilene-cool-daily-hoodie-mens

Mike in Austin

[greenteadrinkers]

Really like this brand: https://www.exofficio.com/ I've traveled a good bit throughout India with a few Exoffico shirts, super light weight, can withstand prolonged wear in not-so friendly environments, super easy to wash, and fast drying. The shirts pack down so tightly they take up like no space, and seem to weight nothing. During the day (in the oppressive heat of southern India, a long sleeve worked great, then at night, I'd layer it over a thin merino), that combo was all I needed for like a week of travel.

[masmojo]

Yes, Leah I never have been a fan of slathering chemicals on my skin either; then I heard last year that the typical sunscreen was getting absorbed into the bloodstream! That seemed like it was probably not a good thing and just reinforced my resolve not to use it.
Between the fact that I've been riding in sunny Texas for 52 years and with the Global Warming it just seems to get hotter and more sunny every year. I had to start covering my skin; arms, nose & neck especially.
Problem for me is finding something that does the job, isn't too hot and fits my idea of what appropriate cycling gear should look like.
Unfortunately most sun specific bike gear errs towards a super technical look that's kind of overkill OR more genteel, stuff that looks like it's perfect for sitting around in & drinking iced tea on the veranda.
I may be old enough to be a grandpa, but I'm not one and I do make an effort to not reinforce the geriatric stereotype.
Maybe one day I'll stop dressing like a teenager, but I doubt it.
Yesterday, I was riding with a light weight, white, cotton T-shirt & while it didn't cover my arms I never felt uncomfortable.
I sometimes ride with rayon Hawaiian shirts that I've gotten at the thrift store, but again they don't cover my arms.

[Eric Norris]

The FDA still advises using sunscreen; basically, the risk and consequences of skin cancer outweigh the risks of wearing sunscreen. They also did not conclude that any of the chemicals absorbed are unsafe (although they would like to do additional research).

Read more here: https://www.fda.gov/news-events/fda-voices/shedding-more-light-sunscreen-absorption 

It’s about balancing risks.

We all make these decisions every day. We go out to ride our bikes, despite the risk that we might get hit by a car. The benefits of the ride outweigh the risk. People who don’t ride their bikes for fear of being hit by a car look at the same situation and make a different decision.

--Eric Norris
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[George Schick]

Eric - you make some good points.  As a culture we seem to be slowly entranced into the concept of being "safe" everywhere and for everything.  There is no such thing as being absolutely safe.  One can get seriously injured or even killed in any number of ways every day.  It's more about weighing the risks of one thing against another.  As someone well known to all of us once said, "just ride."

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[Deacon Patrick]

Aye. Life is fatal. Grin.

One alternative skin protectant on a hot day is to ride dirt roads and trails. Tires kick up dust. Dust sticks to sweaty skin. Pass it off as a tan. Blocks sun too. Grin.

With abandon,

Patrick, who tanned a lot on todays dusty ride.

[Eric Norris]

You’re an elephant, Deacon!

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[Deacon Patrick]

Just when I thought I was remote enough there were no cameras! Caught in the act, and yes, that is my better side. Grin.

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[masmojo]

True, we can't control every harmful factor, but I figure it would be silly not to avoid those that I can easily avoid.
I can avoid absorbing chemicals into my body by simply not buying or wearing sunscreen. I'll probably still use it in certain situations were I know I'm just going to be more or less stationary in the sun in the middle of the day with no shade (outdoor concert for example), but as I've gotten older (even before Covid) I prefer to avoid these types of venues anyway.
If I avoid riding middle of the day, or organize my ride in such a way as to maximize the natural elements along the way that will shade me; trees, buildings, etc. I find I very rarely need sunscreen. Especially since moderate exposure is a healthy source of vitamin D.
Humans have been living in the sun for thousands of years (and probably been putting sunscreens on for almost as long) but there are those things that we don't find out were bad for us for years and years until people start dying of cancer or whatever. So I'll continue to use sunscreen sparingly if at all.
I know Leah prefers to ride at night anyway; probably partly because of the sun element. I am guessing that maybe she's looking to expand her 11 mile loop. Which might entail leaving earlier and therefore being exposed to increased sunlight.
When I was riding to work last year, in July thru early September I would stay late at work, another hour or so. At that point I knew that the angle of the sun would start getting low enough in the sky that the bamboo along the West side of the Katy trail or the trees would keep me out of the direct sun and when I was in the sun it would be at my back.
Basically, a little forethought can be your most effective tool.

[George Schick]

Mas - I'm a bit confusticated about your riding along the "katy trail" with "bamboo shading" when it seems like your regular posts indicate that you live in Texas.  As far as I know, the Katy Trail runs E-to-W through central Missouri.  Please explain.

[masmojo]

Mixed use trail in uptown Dallas

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katy_Trail_(Dallas)

[Paul Clifton]

Did y'all click the link to the linen jumpsuit in the Riv email update today: https://www.crustbikes.com/products/katia-linen-jumpsuit/

If it came in my large man size, I'd wear it! But for now, I'll stick to a loose fitting cotton or synthetic long-sleeve button down and sunscreen on my legs, face, neck, hands, everywhere.

Before I saw that jumpsuit, I was imagining some sort of linen ali-baba pants, but with a higher inseam and a bike-specific cinch for the leg. I love the way the legs button on that jump suit. I'd have to wear a long sleeve shirt over it no matter what, but I think my chest hair would look brilliant in that scoop neck.

I'm 35 and have to have a basal-cell cut off the top of my ear. I'm going to look into on of those Da Brims!

Paul in NW AR

[Vincent Tamer]

REI makes some great UV resist clothing. I gave up wearing shorts for the most part, because they just aren’t that fashionable. Now on hot days I wear some very thin hiking pants from REI. They work fine. I wore them in the Philippines in 90 F weather with 85 percent humidity and they were good in the weather, esp for keeping the ants away, not that you have that problem.