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morning hours, about a 10 mile ride on dark rural roads. I am looking
for suggestions by Riv owners for lights that work with their setups.
I am a longtime owner/user of the NightRider "classic", which was ok,
although I never liked the gunky coax-like cabling, but the 3 ton
battery has finally given out and I'm ready for something new,
hopefully lighter in weight, and brighter, if possible...LED's?. Does
anyone still use generator type lights?
Since this is not really RBW related, please email your suggestions
offline!
Cheers
Steve Palincsar
> Looking for light recommendations for use in my ride in the early
> morning hours, about a 10 mile ride on dark rural roads. I am looking
> for suggestions by Riv owners for lights that work with their setups.
> I am a longtime owner/user of the NightRider "classic", which was ok,
> although I never liked the gunky coax-like cabling, but the 3 ton
> battery has finally given out and I'm ready for something new,
> hopefully lighter in weight, and brighter, if possible...LED's?. Does
> anyone still use generator type lights?
Many, perhaps even most, randonneurs are using hub generators these
days. The current hot setup - state of the art - is the Schmidt SON20,
now known as SONDelux, generator hub and the Schmidt Edelux light.
Seth Vidal
I think a lot of people use generator type lights. You should check
out this page:
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/headlights.asp
and
http://www.longleafbicycles.com/products/dynohubs-and-lighting/
-sv
JoelMatthews
like Steve and Seth agree a hub generator and a light such as the
EDelux or the Busch Muller CYO is a very good choice.
If security is an issue enough you would like to remove your light
from the bike when parked, Busch Muller makes excellent rechargeble
battery LED lights such as the Ixon IQ. The IQ is a one piece
design, light weight, and while not quite the light the EDelux is, has
relatively good coverage for urban and suburban riding.
Mike
light. I've used it for the past 2yrs of randonneuring with no issues.
Much more affordable than a generator hub and light and easy to remove
from the bike and switch between bikes. I purchased mine through
Harris Cyclery.
--mike
Michael_S
rechargables. It is a bright 200 lumen light and has a very clean
beam. The only drawback is the 2 hour run time at full power. You can
carry an extra set of battries for longer night rides.
That B&M Ixon light looks pretty nice too... Is the 5 hr run time
accurate?
~Mike~
opa...@gmail.com
basket with your light? If so - how is it mounted? I'd love to have
a light mounted in front of the basket, preferably above/on the fender
- but I never could figure out a way to make it work with the
NiteRider.
Seth Vidal
> For those of you that are replying - do any of you use a Wald front
> basket with your light? If so - how is it mounted? I'd love to have
> a light mounted in front of the basket, preferably above/on the fender
> - but I never could figure out a way to make it work with the
>
I have the wald mounted on the nitto mini front rack with the cyo light.
It mounts off the reflector/light mount on the front of the nitto rack.
-sv
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There's also a picture of the taillight, which is VERY bright (though tiny). I also use a blinking battery taillight to maximize attention, but the Supernova taillight by itself would certainly be more than adequate.
It's really a pleasure never to have to worry about light batteries and chargers on this bike. On my other bikes, I use Exposure MaxxD rechargeable LED lights. They are if anything even brighter than the Supernova, but they have to be charged, and they're significantly more expensive than the Supernova (or, more accurately, about the same as the hub PLUS the Supernova). I prefer the SON/Supernova setup.
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> basket with your light?
will attach to the fork and various other parts of your bike. Not
beautiful but fairly flexible:
http://peterwhitecycles.com/accessories.asp
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and an IQ Cyo are a value/performance combination that can't be beat.
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MichaelH
think for your application - 10 mile rides - they may be overkill.
There are cheaper solutions, that will meet your needs. I commute (15
miles each way) with Dinotte lights. I started out with the AA model,
which worked fine, and then upgraded to the LI battery model, when
they offered an upgrade sale. I ride dark rural roads and find this
provides me plenty of light on familiar roads up to 25 mph. This
solution is both cheaper and lighter than then a new dyno hub. Most
of the summer my light sits at home, plugged in and waiting. This
time of year it goes into my Acorn rondeneur bag and gets mounted to a
bar in front of my Mark's rack. I have a couple of bikes and they all
use the same lights. This works great for me.
Michael
Patrick in VT
On Oct 5, 11:38 am, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Agree: I myself am a convert to dyno lights; IMO, a Shimano dynohub
> and an IQ Cyo are a value/performance combination that can't be beat.
schmidt/shimano hub is probably insignificant for the OP's 10 mile
commute. I bet a complete wheel and IQ cyo could be had for around
$225.
Seth Vidal
Long leaf cycles has the sanyo built into a velocity twin hollow for $112
The cyo for $104
That's $216 + shipping.
You can also get the
http://www.longleafbicycles.com/products/dynohubs-and-lighting/dynamo-headlights/busch-muller-lyt/
lyt plus which supposedly has good output for the price - at $47
you can get a whole kit for $159 + shipping
sounds like a deal.
-sv
Tim McNamara
A dynohub is very convenient; my Schmidt SON (which I bought for PBP
in 2003) is very useful- it's always there, just flip a switch. I
have not made the jump to an LED lamp yet. However, the bike I ride
most at night- my All-Rounder- has an old Sanyo Dynapower bottom
bracket generator. Because of the shape of the chainstays, it's not
mountable in the normal location and I fabricated a mount on my Nitto
mini rack to drive it off the front wheel. I prefer a BB generator
to a sidewall generator because they are easier to align and roll on
the part of the tire intended to be rolled upon; there are several of
these on the market. The downside is they are more susceptible to
mud and oil than a sidewall generator
An add-on generator like this can work very well and cost less than a
dynohub and building up a wheel with it. In terms of elegance,
however, I think the hub option is superior. It is also not going to
slip when riding in the rain, won't get fouled by oil or mud on the
road, etc. I just haven't gotten around to buying a SON 20 yet to
build up for the All-Rounder.
JoelMatthews
I agree the OP is well advised to consider a battery light.
However, for the money I think a Busch Muller Ixon IQ is a better
choice for on road riding. I have a DiNotte set and still use the
tail light. The DiNotte headlight while quite bright does not have
the focused head light style beam as the Ixon.
The Ixon is heavier and somewhat larger than the DiNotte. So if
mounting is an issue, the DiNotte may be the better choice.
Peter Andrews
mounted on my mustache bars by the stem, above a medium Wald basket.
It works perfectly. One thing I'd like to mention about the Dinotte
is its ingenious and beautifully simple mounting system. It goes on
and stays put, and is just as easy to remove. It mounts over the
twine (which are wrapped to the sleave) on my bars without any issue.
No screws, no knobs, just a simple rubber ring. Just my 2 cents...
Peter
MichaelH
lights. I point one down and one up the road. Lots of light for me.
michael
William
garage sale in my parts box. Now that I have bikes with kickstand
plates, I wonder if it will fit? That would be pretty slick.
CycloFiend
> Looking for light recommendations for use in my ride in the early
> morning hours, about a 10 mile ride on dark rural roads. I am looking
> for suggestions by Riv owners for lights that work with their setups.
> I am a longtime owner/user of the NightRider "classic", which was ok,
> although I never liked the gunky coax-like cabling, but the 3 ton
> battery has finally given out and I'm ready for something new,
> hopefully lighter in weight, and brighter, if possible...LED's?. Does
> anyone still use generator type lights?
If the last light you had was the NR Classic, you will be pleasantly
surprised by the changes in battery weight if you go that way.
In addition to the most appropriate suggestion, which was to read through
the info on Peter White's site, you may find that you don't actually need a
lot of light for rural use, depending upon how much auto traffic you have.
The current crop of low wattage, high intensity LED's give pretty good
light - enough so that your eyes can adapt fairly quickly IF you have decent
night vision and aren't receiving a retina-scorching set of auto headlights
in your eyes every minute or so. A short-brimmed hat will help a bit
against that.
I run the USB-rechargeable (and traditionally rechargeable) NR mini whatever
with a bright but narrow beam which goes on/off quickly (shopping) to see
plus a widely dispersed AA battery LED to be seen from the sides. LED
Headlamp to shine at side entering vehicles. But, I'm on a fairly urban
route. If I am on the less trafficked route home, I see how little light I
can get away with.
I do covet the SON20/Edelux setup though....
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On Oct 6, 2010, at 1:55 PM, William wrote:
> I totally forgot that I have an NOS Sanyo Dynapower that I found at a
> garage sale in my parts box. Now that I have bikes with kickstand
> plates, I wonder if it will fit? That would be pretty slick.
You might have to do a little work as it is designed to nestle
between the chainstays. But these are smooth and easy rolling
generators, I don't even notice that mine is engaged except for the
light output.
CycloFiend
> I've been using the Dinotte 200 AA model which uses 4 NiMh
> rechargables. It is a bright 200 lumen light and has a very clean
> beam. The only drawback is the 2 hour run time at full power. You can
> carry an extra set of battries for longer night rides.
Ride-buddy Carlos had a nice hack for the Dinotte 200 -
http://bike.duque.net/dinotte-5w-hack.htm
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the Sanyo has those contours to snuggle up between the stays. I
forgot about that.
Lynne Fitz
NiteRider Minewt (the original one). Bright little sucker. Worked
reasonably well on my commute (7 mi RT at the time), except when I
forgot to recharge it. It happens.
As I was also getting into the rando stuff, the Minewt worked for a
200k. It even worked for a 300k (finish at 12:30 am, yup). It wasn't
going to work for an all-night ride. Plus, there was a descent
through White Salmon/Bingen that had me desperately wanting a
different light setup.
Enter the SON28/B&M IQ Fly for Bleriot. Nice. Never ran out of
light. It really got a lot more miles commuting than it did brevets/
permanents. Just saying. Bleriot has been my go-to bike since I
built it up. But...
Now I've got another 650B rando bike, and, as technology has moved on,
the new bike has a SON20/Supernova E3. I will never commute on that
bike. But as the SON20 was half a pound lighter and less (I haven't
noticed it yet) resistance, and the Supernova was LOTS brighter; and
no dark spot in front of the wheel, I upgraded.
I still commute on Bleriot. In a few days the light will come on and
stay on. And I'm happy it is there. Completely reliable. I do not
expect it to EVER fail. The beauty of a generator light is that you
never have to "ration" turning it on. Ever.
Lynne F
On Oct 5, 4:44 am, "opa...@gmail.com" <opa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Looking for light recommendations for use in my ride in the early
> morning hours, about a 10 mile ride on dark rural roads. I am looking
> for suggestions by Riv owners for lights that work with their setups.
> I am a longtime owner/user of the NightRider "classic", which was ok,
> although I never liked the gunky coax-like cabling, but the 3 ton
> battery has finally given out and I'm ready for something new,
> hopefully lighter in weight, and brighter, if possible...LED's?. Does
> anyone still use generator type lights?
>
Tim McNamara
On Oct 6, 2010, at 4:39 PM, William wrote:
> On Oct 6, 2:22 pm, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
>> On Oct 6, 2010, at 1:55 PM, William wrote:
>>
>>> I totally forgot that I have an NOS Sanyo Dynapower that I found
>>> at a
>>> garage sale in my parts box. Now that I have bikes with kickstand
>>> plates, I wonder if it will fit? That would be pretty slick.
>>
>> You might have to do a little work as it is designed to nestle
>> between the chainstays. But these are smooth and easy rolling
>> generators, I don't even notice that mine is engaged except for the
>> light output.
> Oh, right. So the kickstand plate in this case is a negative, because
> the Sanyo has those contours to snuggle up between the stays. I
> forgot about that.
Well, you still might be able to get it to mount readily enough
through one of the holes on the kickstand plate. There's a 6 mm bolt
for mounting the generator that would be oriented properly for this,
assuming the hole is in the right place (you might have to drill or
elongate an existing hole.
Since I never use a kickstand, I think the presence of a kickstand
plate is a detriment no matter what. Although some of that is just
my elderly years and the association of those plates with crappy
department store bikes from the 1970s. It's not a fair comparison,
of course, given the fine quality of Riv products but I can't quite
get over it.
charlie
them mounted on my bar. These seem to have enough brightness for me to
see fine up to about 18 mph. I'd love a Son 28 built on a A719 rim to
match my back wheel but this combo with the lights is over $500. I can
buy two 2 watt Plant bike lights for around $100 and get some AA
rechargeable batteries and be fine I think. My 1 watt PB light is as
bright as my Fenex L2d flashlight in the standard high power mode (107
lumens) so two 2 watt lights ought to be plenty. The only problem I
can see is that these lights are not the best for oncoming traffic
like the generator lamps are and some of the battery powered German
made lamps.
PATRICK MOORE
an existing rim for $150 including six bolt rotor adaptor. Add $100
for a Cyo: $250 plus tax or plus shipping, take your choice. Not as
cheap as a Blaze, but not $500, either.
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 7:33 PM, charlie <charle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I use the inexpensive Planet bike 1 watt light and have used two of
> them mounted on my bar. These seem to have enough brightness for me to
> see fine up to about 18 mph. I'd love a Son 28 built on a A719 rim to
> match my back wheel but this combo with the lights is over $500. I can
> buy two 2 watt Plant bike lights for around $100 and get some AA
> rechargeable batteries and be fine I think. My 1 watt PB light is as
> bright as my Fenex L2d flashlight in the standard high power mode (107
> lumens) so two 2 watt lights ought to be plenty. The only problem I
> can see is that these lights are not the best for oncoming traffic
> like the generator lamps are and some of the battery powered German
> made lamps.
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>
> I still commute on Bleriot. In a few days the light will come on and
> stay on. And I'm happy it is there. Completely reliable. I do not
> expect it to EVER fail. The beauty of a generator light is that you
> never have to "ration" turning it on. Ever.
And you never ever have to remember to charge it, or keep track of when
it's time to recharge. I used to get 3 trips on a recharge of the
NiteRider battery, which over time became 2 1/2 trips - hence the
resonance with your comment about "rationing".
The worst part of my commute was 1 1/2 miles from the end, where the
bike trail goes under the bridges on the GW Parkway, the railroad line
and Rt 1. There are lights, but there were several years when they
weren't working, and at night under those bridges with rip-rap on one
side of a narrow bike path and the guard rail and the Four Mile Run on
the other side, it's dark as the inside of your pocket and a certain
crash if you misjudge. I dreaded having the light go dim down there,
and it happened more than once.
I love generator lights.
Seth Vidal
I have one on the tandem and one on the atlantis. I've debated getting
another for the rom but I almost always ride the atlantis if i'm
riding at night.
The remark that made me the happiest about my headlight was when I was
riding up behind some folks walking who turned when I was passing them
and said "wow, I thought you were some sort of motorcycle from that
light"
-sv
Reid
Muller set up is great with very low drag when on and, of course, no
drag when off. For rainy days, get the little rubber "cap" that fits
over the part of the generator that is turned by the wheel. I use it
year round, all weather on my commuter (Romulus).
Reid
Brian Hanson
For those of you that are replying - do any of you use a Wald front
basket with your light? If so - how is it mounted? I'd love to have
a light mounted in front of the basket, preferably above/on the fender
- but I never could figure out a way to make it work with the
NiteRider.
> Looking for light recommendations for use in my ride in the early
> morning hours, about a 10 mile ride on dark rural roads. I am looking
> for suggestions by Riv owners for lights that work with their setups.
> I am a longtime owner/user of the NightRider "classic", which was ok,
> although I never liked the gunky coax-like cabling, but the 3 ton
> battery has finally given out and I'm ready for something new,
> hopefully lighter in weight, and brighter, if possible...LED's?. Does
> anyone still use generator type lights?
>
> Since this is not really RBW related, please email your suggestions
> offline!
>
> Cheers
charlie
a quality charger plus two 2 Watt lights it ended up around $140
so......this means I would only need $350 more for what I really want.
I just can't settle for less, unless its way less. I just don't want
to spend money twice. I do this often and regret it later. I
compromise and find out later I should have purchased what I wanted. I
nearly always end up doing so later wasting the initial money I spent
in the first place. I can see myself using a generator hub of quality
and riding more because I have one. Maybe some of you can explain the
real world realizationsyou had after getting a Son hub or......did any
of you find out that you really didn't need such a fancy setup?
On Oct 6, 6:40 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just had a Shimano DN something (disk model) or another built into
> an existing rim for $150 including six bolt rotor adaptor. Add $100
> for a Cyo: $250 plus tax or plus shipping, take your choice. Not as
> cheap as a Blaze, but not $500, either.
>
> > I use the inexpensive Planet bike 1 watt light and have used two of
> > them mounted on my bar. These seem to have enough brightness for me to
> > see fine up to about 18 mph. I'd love a Son 28 built on a A719 rim to
> > match my back wheel but this combo with the lights is over $500. I can
> > buy two 2 watt Plant bike lights for around $100 and get some AA
> > rechargeable batteries and be fine I think. My 1 watt PB light is as
> > bright as my Fenex L2d flashlight in the standard high power mode (107
> > lumens) so two 2 watt lights ought to be plenty. The only problem I
> > can see is that these lights are not the best for oncoming traffic
> > like the generator lamps are and some of the battery powered German
> > made lamps.
>
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Ultegra level (so saith Sheldon) Shimanos, but as for performance, I
can't tell the difference in drag or, needless to say, in output. I've
got Shimanos on two bikes and the SON on the pretty bike. Sure, I like
the SON and I justify it by saying, the hell with justifying it, I can
afford it and I want it and my car is worth $800. So there. But if I
were wholly rational, I'd just buy Shimanos.
I'd use the German LED lights, though -- Cyo for rationality, Edeluxe
for pretty.
Hub via LBS: $100. Cyo: I think it's $100, but I got mine cheap
onlist. Wheel build $50 and spokes no more than $50 if you go fancy.
Total before tax or shipping: $200. I get the builder to also take
apart and lube and adjust the bearings, having heard that Shimano
dynohubs fail quickly if you don't do this -- BQ somewhere.
So --- just $60. Hell, that's only 10 boutique beers .... or five
fifths of cheap bourbon.
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Lyt on the front. She has not once mentioned the "drag" from having
the light turned on the Shimano Dynohub powering it.
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> afford it and I want it and my car is worth $800. So there. But if I
> were wholly rational, I'd just buy Shimanos.
Schmidt are made by a company that consists of a couple of engineers
who design test and make their product in a small building in
Germany. The people really care about bike lights and are
consistently drive innovation in their niche. For instance, custom
frame builders are currently getting their first delivery of the new
hubs and wireless fork drop outs.
Shimano hubs are designed by engineers who probably wish they could
have been working at Toyota or Panasonic and made in whichever factory
Shimano can get the most bang for their buck.
Shimano may not be baby eaters, but there certainly are rational
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On Oct 7, 2010, at 1:38 AM, charlie wrote:
> Yea, I ran the numbers tonight and with high quality Sanyo batteries,
> a quality charger plus two 2 Watt lights it ended up around $140
> so......this means I would only need $350 more for what I really want.
> I just can't settle for less, unless its way less. I just don't want
> to spend money twice. I do this often and regret it later. I
> compromise and find out later I should have purchased what I wanted. I
> nearly always end up doing so later wasting the initial money I spent
> in the first place. I can see myself using a generator hub of quality
> and riding more because I have one. Maybe some of you can explain the
> real world realizationsyou had after getting a Son hub or......did any
> of you find out that you really didn't need such a fancy setup?
When you're riding with a hub generator, it doesn't seem fancy. It
just makes sense- flip a switch and you've got lights. Just like in
your car. BTW, look at some of the Shimano hub generator options-
very good hubs, half the cost of the SON and about 98% of the
performance. Drag is just slightly- probably unnoticeably- higher.
opa...@gmail.com
generators for lights, but I'll ask anyway..
How fast do you have to be going in order to have "good light"? i.e.
If I'm going up a steep hill and am crawling, will I have no light/dim
light/same amount of light? For that matter, even on flat sections I'm
not speedy.
Cheers
Allingham II, Thomas J
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Seth Vidal
On my tandem the light comes on bright enough for me to see by when
i'm walking the bike.
I've lifted up the front wheel and spun it with my hand and used the
light as a flash light.
so... almost no speed.
-sv
PATRICK MOORE
a bit more for the SON 20R which is made for smaller -- faster turning
-- wheels.
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Seth Vidal
I hesitate to say this but there is another reason to go with the dyno/led:
Batteries, even rechargeable ones, have a VERY limited lifespan before
you toss them or recycle them (which still ends up with some nasty
waste being housed)
So if only from a controlling waste standpoint the dyno/led combo are
a better idea.
-sv
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<Thomas.A...@skadden.com> wrote:
> Why hesitate? Good to keep that issue in mind for all decisions, no?
>
B/c some folks see it as environmental proseltyzing and I don't want
to be in that argument.
that's all.
-sv
Jim Cloud
What are the lights that you're using with your Sanyo Dynapower? I
don't ride at night often enough to even begin to justify the cost of
building up a wheel with a hub generator, but I have a nice Dynapower
in my parts stock. I think that it would probably fit properly
between the chainstays of my Rivendell Road Standard and I may install
it just to have a light available if needed. By the way, if you'd
like to see a really elegant installation of the Dynapower generator
check out these photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25373440@N00/sets/72157600061466973/
This is a Saluki that was done up right by Ed Braley, what a nice job!
Jim Cloud
Tucson, AZ
Mojo
wasteful. Generators are great if you don't have to move it from bike
to bike, and if you are riding alot at night. My night rides top out
at about 1 hour max and I have 3 different wheel sizes. I have found
the Planet Bike 2Watt works really well with long battery life, even
with rechargables. I have mounted two of them on my commuter, on
either side of the Nitto mini-front rack. Lots of light even at the
1Watt setting, and easily transferred to other bikes or removed when
parked.
Here is a picture of my tourer/commuter.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/4601203765/in/set-72157607471577085/
Since then, the Light&Motion has been moved to my wife's bike, with
another nob and PB 2Watt mounted on the other side of the rack.
On Oct 6, 7:48 am, Seth Vidal <skvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Patrick in VT <swing4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 5, 11:38 am, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Agree: I myself am a convert to dyno lights; IMO, a Shimano dynohub
> >> and an IQ Cyo are a value/performance combination that can't be beat.
>
> > the Sanyo dynohub costs only $40. relative performance with the
> > schmidt/shimano hub is probably insignificant for the OP's 10 mile
> > commute. I bet a complete wheel and IQ cyo could be had for around
> > $225.
>
> Long leaf cycles has the sanyo built into a velocity twin hollow for $112
>
> The cyo for $104
>
> That's $216 + shipping.
>
> You can also get thehttp://www.longleafbicycles.com/products/dynohubs-and-lighting/dynamo...
>
> lyt plus which supposedly has good output for the price - at $47
>
> you can get a whole kit for $159 + shipping
>
> sounds like a deal.
>
> -sv
Scott G.
On Oct 7, 2:14 pm, Mojo <gjtra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I absolutely agree with Seth's point that battery operated lights are
> wasteful. Generators are great if you don't have to move it from bike
> to bike, and if you are riding alot at night.
Velo Orange skewer mount, B&M handle bar mount to hold a Cyo to a Son
Dyno hub.
A little lower than perfect, but easy to take off for weekend club
rides.
http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/sg8357/Scott-Goldsmith/Chris-Kvale-2005/Cyo1.jpg.html
Tim McNamara
On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Jim Cloud wrote:
> Tim,
> What are the lights that you're using with your Sanyo Dynapower?
Jim, I am using a Busch & Mueller Lumotec with 3W halogen bulb. This
is the unswitched version because there is no need for a switch using
a tire-driven generator that's not turning when not in use; with a
hub dynamo, a switch is good. The one I use does not have a
"standlight" that stays on for a while when you stop; that's the
Lumotec Plus. I have a switched Lumotec Oval Plus for my bike with
the Schmidt dynohub.
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt-headlights.asp#unswlumotec
I got mine from list member Jim Thill's shop, Hiawatha Cyclery.
While I find that this produces plenty of light for long rides in the
dark (dusk to dawn), I do plan to upgrade to an eDelux LED lamp. The
reliability of the LED lamp is appealing, and they are apparently
much brighter than the halogen bulbs.
Another option, if you're handy with a soldering iron, is to build
your own LED light. There's a lot of information on the Web about
this and it could be a fun project.
GeorgeS
but the bike is the one I use for long distance riding. For around
town I have a Ixon IQ which I got from Peter White and several bar
mounts so that I can move the light around. Very good coverage and
bright enough to spot pot holes when one is doing 12-15 mph. I would
not feel comfortable with this light on any kind of fast dark downhill
unless I was very familiar with the road. Come to think of it, I
wouldn't feel comfortable in that situation with any light.
GeorgeS
Lynne Fitz
SON20 in ADDITION to the SON28 was totally a rationalization. So?
:-)
Lynne "when you are building a custom bike, you sort of lose sight of
what things cost..." F
EricP
make that type of financial committment to my two other bikes. Yet.
The ones that will be ridden through the snowy/salty winter.
Also am not sure I'd want to put the SON through the abuse my bikes
usually get in winter. Just going to look ugly after a year or
three. Not beausage, ugly.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
Jay LePree
I recently purchased a "Magic Shine" bicycle light from Deal Extreme.
It is a Lithium ion battery operated LED light. It was 70.00 shipped
and is as bright as my Supernova E3. The charge time is about 3 hours
on the brightest setting. The only negative was that Deal Extreme is
based in Hong Kong, and it took 1 month to receive the light. There
is a US-based firm, namely, Geomangear that sells this light as well.
You can read the reviews about the light by Googling Magic Shine
Bicycle Light.
If you are attentive to recharging battery operated lights, and need
light for only 1 to 2 hours, I am not sure how you could go wrong with
this light. On one review I read, the light was compared to a light
made by Lupine that was in excess of $400, and the reviewer only
slightly favored the Lupine light.
Regards,
Jay
Demarest, NJ
Tim McNamara
On Oct 9, 2010, at 5:38 AM, Jay LePree wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> I recently purchased a "Magic Shine" bicycle light from Deal Extreme.
> It is a Lithium ion battery operated LED light. It was 70.00 shipped
> and is as bright as my Supernova E3. The charge time is about 3 hours
> on the brightest setting. The only negative was that Deal Extreme is
> based in Hong Kong, and it took 1 month to receive the light. There
> is a US-based firm, namely, Geomangear that sells this light as well.
> You can read the reviews about the light by Googling Magic Shine
> Bicycle Light.
>
> If you are attentive to recharging battery operated lights, and need
> light for only 1 to 2 hours, I am not sure how you could go wrong with
> this light. On one review I read, the light was compared to a light
> made by Lupine that was in excess of $400, and the reviewer only
> slightly favored the Lupine light.
One issue for me- having bagmatching tendencies- is the aesthetics of
the installation. Lights with external battery packs always look
kludgy to me. With a generator system, usually (but not always) the
installation is very tidy.
Geez. What have I become?????
Lynne Fitz
electrical tape. I'm with you there :-)
As for matching, the SON20 goes nicely with the White Industries H3
rear hub. Shiny, curvy...
Lynne F
CycloFiend
> Another option, if you're handy with a soldering iron, is to build
> your own LED light. There's a lot of information on the Web about
> this and it could be a fun project.
I would point you to ride buddy and Master Of The Useful Hack JimG - he's
built some pretty impressive lights, and has a load of references on his
site/blog.
If you have an interest in homebrewing, what you'll find is the "good" LED's
you can buy separately are about a year or two ahead of most commercial
products. The technology has really been moving fast on those, and with
product cycles inherent in the bike biz, the actual LED's they spec end up
being not as bright/efficient/advanced.
For more on that, I'll point you his way -
http://yojimg.net/bike/equipment/lights/led_lights.php
- J
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I like the way Jim D has mounted his lights.
I'm about 75% of the way done with a triple CREE LED light...it's
turning out a ton cheaper than most commercial systems.
Angus
On Oct 9, 6:01 pm, CycloFiend <cyclofi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> on 10/7/10 3:41 PM, Tim McNamara at tim...@bitstream.net wrote:
>
> > Another option, if you're handy with a soldering iron, is to build
> > your own LED light. There's a lot of information on the Web about
> > this and it could be a fun project.
>
> I would point you to ride buddy and Master Of The Useful Hack JimG - he's
> built some pretty impressive lights, and has a load of references on his
> site/blog.
>
> If you have an interest in homebrewing, what you'll find is the "good" LED's
> you can buy separately are about a year or two ahead of most commercial
> products. The technology has really been moving fast on those, and with
> product cycles inherent in the bike biz, the actual LED's they spec end up
> being not as bright/efficient/advanced.
>
> For more on that, I'll point you his way -
>
> http://yojimg.net/bike/equipment/lights/led_lights.php
>
> - J
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Bob H.
light...
I have a wald basket on the front of my Quickbeam. I use the Dinotte
200 headlight when I ride this bike at night. It is super bright, the
battery pack is small and svelte (either the AA or the Li-Ion). It has
a non traditional mounting method using the rubber o-ring thing. It
can be mounted on the top of your handlebars (great if the basket is
empty), or you can mount it to the curve of your drop bars to get it
"outside" the basket shadow. It is easy to remove and take with you to
secure. I can't say enough about how versatile this light is, for a
battery powered light (it works great as a helmet light too).
Bob H.
Knoxville, TN.
On Oct 5, 10:39 am, "opa...@gmail.com" <opa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For those of you that are replying - do any of you use a Wald front
> basket with your light? If so - how is it mounted? I'd love to have
> a light mounted in front of the basket, preferably above/on the fender
> - but I never could figure out a way to make it work with the
> NiteRider.