Toyo Atlantis Sizing vs Hunqapillar

[Jeffrey S]

Hello all. 

I know this has been talked about before, but I can never seem to find the details I am looking for when searching. I ride a 54 Hunqapillar. If I were to look for a Toyo Atlantis, or other shorter wheelbase Atlantis before they got stretched, what year/era/size would be a similar fit that also has 700c wheels? Or do i need to search for a 650b? My PBH is a 85-86.

Thank you! Jeffrey

[Drew Fitchette]

Hey Jeffrey,

I think the jump happened from the 2017 to 2018 model, but I think they went from 26" wheels to 650b's in that size range then. 

I've got a 56cm from 2018 and it's 650bs with an 835 listed stand over. I think it's the first frame with a longer Chainstay(525mm). Find the Geo comparisons here

Also, here's Grants Blahg mention on the "new" geometry. 

[Brian Turner]

With your PBH, you could very likely comfortably ride a 58cm Toyo Atlantis with 700 wheels. The 56cm size with 650b would likely work for you too, but those were produced for such a short period, they are quite hard to come by (I tried for 2-3 years to find one myself to no avail). My PBH is 83, and while I can technically ride a 58cm Toyo, the standover is just a tad high for me to be comfortable on it. I know from experience because I have a couple of friends who are a couple inches taller than me who own 58s, and I have taken them for test rides. For reference, I am 5' 8", and my friends who own 58cm Toyos are both around 5' 10" tall.

Brian

Lexington KY

[Brian Turner]

I forgot to mention, my friend who has a 58cm Toyo (he's a group member here as well) also rides a 54cm Hunq.

Brian

[Drew Fitchette]

Brian's real world advice is definitely a better reference point than bike insights' numbers alone! 

That being said, If a 56cm 650b Atlantis is interesting you can email me off list if you'd like to trade for that 54cm Hunqapillar, Jeffrey!

- Drew

[Jeffrey S]

Thank you all! Will look into testing out an older 56cm 26" Atlantis.

[Bill Fulford]

I have both, a 58 Atlantis and a 54 Hunqapillar. My pbh is 87. I can stand over the Atlantis but the bar is right  at the crotch. The Hunqapillar has more stand over clearance and I’m more comfortable riding it off road.

[Pat McCullar]

I have a 56cm Toyo Atlantis and a 58cm custom road bike (like a Rambouillet or Long-Low), and the fit is almost exactly the same on both bikes. If I'm wearing shoes, then I will clear the top tube, but only just.  That is with 26x1.75"/42mm Paselas on the Atlantis and 700x32mm Gravel Kings on the road bike. My  PBH is 85.

I have never ridden or straddled a 58cm Toyo Atlantis, but I seem to recall that some old geometry chart listed the minimum PBH as 84. 

[Old And In The Weeds]

5' 11 here on 56cm 26" Toyo. With 2.1 tires standover is ~33". Coincidentally, I have a 58cm 700c Toyo as well (went thru this same quandary, lol) and can say that standover is iffy for me with anything bigger than a 42c tire. May move the 58cm frameset along at some point... --Nick

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