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"Roadie robot" looks might be a little jarring for the committed Just Rider, but function is everything in a cycling shade: They need to be light enough and fit well enough to disappear on your head/ears/nose so you don't have to think about them, and they need to completely cover your eyes while providing unobstructed vision. So I ride in Riv shorts or pants, a loose cotton shirt and running shoes, but the helmet/glasses factor is Full Serious Cyclist.
Those Radars you got are nice and you could get them with clear lenses; I have a couple pairs of EV Zero for day that are AMAZING. You can try those, or maybe get another Radar with dark lenses if you like the first pair you get. (You can also just swap back and forth between lenses with that one Radar, but it's kind of a chore).
Regardless of which brand you get - there's a bunch! - I highly recommend function first. I've ridden lots of times with "lifestyle" shades and it pretty much always sucks.
Patrick, I'm loath to use the term but it's what they call it and you mentioned it: I use Oakley's Asia Fit for my big noggin..all "regular" shades fit too tight AND slide down my nose. This fit fixes all that.
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I've never tried photochromatic but I'd be surprised if the 'bright sunlight' part would work. In a car maybe, but a full-on blast of sun on the bike is a whole 'nother animal.
Swappable works and I've done it, but I eventually decided life is too short to be wiggling lenses in and out in the middle of a ride and just bought both. I have daytime cycling shades, and an old Oakley M Frame (think Lance glasses) with a clear lens that I toss in the saddlebag if I'm going to ride into the night. Easy peasy.
Leah, I think your husband should use the giant safety glasses on his ebike 😂
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Dear Leah,
On the opposite side of the economic spectrum, may I suggest Jackson Safety Nemesis safety glasses? As long as you have a relatively upright position on the bike, they work very well. I personally prefer their fit to my Oakleys.
Polycarbonate, reasonable optical quality, fewer than five bucks online, eight to ten from your local welding supply shop.
They are nearly-ubiquitous in the trades, and there are many lens options.
Buy three for the off chance you need them for an after-dark ride and store in your luggage?
Best Regards,
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Iuse these in a sunglass version as well. I think they cost about $8, and are available with brown/bronze lenses, shooter's lenses (amber/yellow), and grey.
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I think my riding glasses belong here - some aluminum aviators, still rocking months after an unpleasant endover. they're a little less comfortable now though.
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Buy what you like, all that matters is that it works and you can see and no bugs stab you in the eye.
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On Jun 1, 2020, at 8:41 AM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Os someone mentioned, glasses come in a wide variety of styles, and not all will ft everyone’s face (or their personal style).
That being said, I’ll just note that I’ve been wearing Oakley Frogskins for a long time now. Frogskins have an understated, classic look that I like.They last forever, and lenses are easily available (much cheaper if you go with aftermarket lenses) in the highly unlikely event that they need to be replaced. I’ve been wearing the same pair now for 4+ years.
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On Jun 1, 2020, at 8:34 AM, Clark Fitzgerald <clark...@gmail.com> wrote:I like Goodr glasses for cycling.
On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 4:22:41 PM UTC-7, allenmichael wrote:https://goodr.com/products/jorts-for-your-face
I use these (tinted) while running and they look pretty good, don’t slip, and don’t cost $$$$. Might be worth a try.--
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I’ll get to the sunglasses part, but first just let me say all the words I need to get out.Lately I’ve been shuffling over the practical side. I would love to have beauty and utility both present, but sometimes it doesn’t work out. The summer months have come to Vegas and as I have greatly increased my miles in 2020 (in May alone I rode 310.4 miles!), I have had to make some changes to withstand the sun. I’m not riding in Lycra, but I do have synthetic, white arm sleeves that keep you cool, covered, and shielded from the sun. I’ve taken to wetting and tying a bandana around my neck and wearing riding gloves on my hands. I apply a nasty white mineral sunscreen at times, but I never leave without sunglasses.A few days ago I went out for an evening ride. It was dark enough that I took off my sunglasses and was soon after hit in the eyes several times by bugs. That was annoying but workable until the final one, which managed to get IN my eye and then repeatedly bite or sting. Oh my gosh, the pain. I pulled over but I was using the stripped down Clem H (my Clementine is in the shop getting dyno lighting, another thing I needed with all this extra riding) and it has no mirror. The bathrooms at the park were locked, so I had nothing but my phone camera to use and try and fish this bug - which was still ferociously stinging me - out of my eye. It must have died because the pain stopped, but I never did find the bug carcass. 🤢 I was pretty sure all that biting/stinging was going to leave me with swelling. Was I going to have to ride home after dark, up the mountain with one eye swollen shut? (Spoiler alert: I made it home with 2 good eyes.)Well that was when I decided I wanted clear riding glasses for night. I ordered Tifosi from Amazon but was really disappointed. They slid down and didn’t offer good eye coverage. I ended up on Oakley’s site, which I was hoping to avoid for 2 reasons:1. $$$ 2. I’m not rad.It’s really hard to find fit info and product reviews, but I finally settled on creating a custom pair so I could tone down the rad. There’s a sale going on right now, so while it’s not cheap, it’s not outrageous, either. They’re Radar EV Pitch, I think, and might still be a little too rad - but who’s going to see me? Well, now I’m going to have great eye protection at night, but what about sunglasses for daytime? I have 2 pairs, and while I think they’re fetching, they aren’t providing great coverage - esp. the Warby Parkers. The sun comes down into my eyes from the top of the glasses, and I don’t want to put up with it anymore. At least not on my bike.I want to know: What do you all like to use for sunglasses while riding? I want good coverage, but I don’t want to look like a cyborg, either.Lastly, I feel like I am morphing from something that once resembled Practical Cycle Chic into what The Bike Snob would call The Lone Wolf. Picture the polka dot helmet, white arms sleeves, Keen sandals, neck bandanna and Oakleys - it’s not lookin’ good, it’s lookin’ Lone Wolf-y.Should I just embrace it and get wild Oakley’s for the sun? Or do you have a more reasonable suggestion? Is there a gold standard for cycling sunglasses? I have 20/10 vision, they tell me, so prescription is not a factor here.Attached is the night glasses I am having made. It’s going to be a couple weeks before I get them. Go ahead and laugh. I am.Thanks!Leah
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The Frog skins look cool, but I’ve tried them and they don’t wrap around my face enough. I really want to block out light, air, and debris.As I was reading reviews about cycling sunglasses (mostly Oakley’s) I was struck by reviews that said things like “Prevents tearing of my eyes at speed” or “keeps light out of the top of the glasses” or “ increased my peripheral vision”. These are all complaints I have with my trendy sunglasses that I hadn’t given much thought to before. Like, how my mascara would run as we made our descent down Killer Hill to school. Or how I’d have to push my glasses up repeatedly to keep the sun out of the top of them. Or how I’d tip my head back so the sun would hit the glass in the right place. Being stung in the eye was the final straw, and I’m willing to put aside my sartorial preferences to get gear that WORKS.I finally understand why roadies don’t mind the cyborg look, ha!
I’ll let you know what I get and post a photo and we can all witness my slow Lone Wolf transformation and laugh at me collectively.
No longer aiming for the image on the left - trending toward the right and heading there fast. 🤣🤣🤣
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I've read that photochromatic lenses lose their ability to change shades as they age. Is this true? Would be happy to learn that it's no longer true, as I much prefer transition lenses to having to swap out lenses manually.
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I have clear transition lenses that darken when UV light hits them. They are getting better and some versions can even transition inside of cars to some extent using light intensity to darken. The ones I have are Rudy Project, which are expensive, but I had paid for them with my Rx plan and flexible spending. The cheaper option may be to get sunglasses with interchangeable lenses, which is a good choice.Toshi
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I’ll get to the sunglasses part, but first just let me say all the words I need to get out.--Lately I’ve been shuffling over the practical side. I would love to have beauty and utility both present, but sometimes it doesn’t work out. The summer months have come to Vegas and as I have greatly increased my miles in 2020 (in May alone I rode 310.4 miles!), I have had to make some changes to withstand the sun. I’m not riding in Lycra, but I do have synthetic, white arm sleeves that keep you cool, covered, and shielded from the sun. I’ve taken to wetting and tying a bandana around my neck and wearing riding gloves on my hands. I apply a nasty white mineral sunscreen at times, but I never leave without sunglasses.A few days ago I went out for an evening ride. It was dark enough that I took off my sunglasses and was soon after hit in the eyes several times by bugs. That was annoying but workable until the final one, which managed to get IN my eye and then repeatedly bite or sting. Oh my gosh, the pain. I pulled over but I was using the stripped down Clem H (my Clementine is in the shop getting dyno lighting, another thing I needed with all this extra riding) and it has no mirror. The bathrooms at the park were locked, so I had nothing but my phone camera to use and try and fish this bug - which was still ferociously stinging me - out of my eye. It must have died because the pain stopped, but I never did find the bug carcass. 🤢 I was pretty sure all that biting/stinging was going to leave me with swelling. Was I going to have to ride home after dark, up the mountain with one eye swollen shut? (Spoiler alert: I made it home with 2 good eyes.)Well that was when I decided I wanted clear riding glasses for night. I ordered Tifosi from Amazon but was really disappointed. They slid down and didn’t offer good eye coverage. I ended up on Oakley’s site, which I was hoping to avoid for 2 reasons:1. $$$ 2. I’m not rad.It’s really hard to find fit info and product reviews, but I finally settled on creating a custom pair so I could tone down the rad. There’s a sale going on right now, so while it’s not cheap, it’s not outrageous, either. They’re Radar EV Pitch, I think, and might still be a little too rad - but who’s going to see me? Well, now I’m going to have great eye protection at night, but what about sunglasses for daytime? I have 2 pairs, and while I think they’re fetching, they aren’t providing great coverage - esp. the Warby Parkers. The sun comes down into my eyes from the top of the glasses, and I don’t want to put up with it anymore. At least not on my bike.I want to know: What do you all like to use for sunglasses while riding? I want good coverage, but I don’t want to look like a cyborg, either.Lastly, I feel like I am morphing from something that once resembled Practical Cycle Chic into what The Bike Snob would call The Lone Wolf. Picture the polka dot helmet, white arms sleeves, Keen sandals, neck bandanna and Oakleys - it’s not lookin’ good, it’s lookin’ Lone Wolf-y.Should I just embrace it and get wild Oakley’s for the sun? Or do you have a more reasonable suggestion? Is there a gold standard for cycling sunglasses? I have 20/10 vision, they tell me, so prescription is not a factor here.Attached is the night glasses I am having made. It’s going to be a couple weeks before I get them. Go ahead and laugh. I am.Thanks!Leah
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Beyond that, it seems we are talking 2 different things here?
1) sunglasses
2) clear bug shields
To me it's all a very personal aesthetic, but although I have some Oakley's I don't wear them much. The Oakley's I had last have some sort of fancy coating, (irridium?) which look great, but seem to scratch VERY easily. I just didn't feel they were worth the $$'s
There's typically some inexpensive new brands that pop up on ebay. I bought some Rudy Project shortly after that brand first appeared, now they cost a lot!
Trick with buying sunglasses on ebay is don't look solely at price. You don't have to spend $100, but less than $20 is equally bad.
A brand that you can sometimes get inexpensively that I like is Dragons. A couple others that are almost as good. RAZE and Electric (they may spell that some clever way). I've been wearing my RAZE almost exclusively lately; In fact I am on my second pair! First pair popped out of my handlebar bag & I was bothered enough to by the same exact thing again.
Which leads me to the main point. The perfect cycling sunglasses are decent quality, but not so precious your going to have a meltdown if they get lost, broken or stolen.
As far as clear bug shields go, I've never really cottoned to them for different reasons glare, condensation, ineffective perspiration evacuation, etc.
That said you could probably ride over to Lowe's or Home Depot & look at they're safety glasses, possibly try them on get an idea if it'll work for you.
In my younger days I had to ride to/from work at night through some fields and I can tell you; although it makes a lot of sense to wear white at night for visibility, it makes you a giant target for bugs! Especially when the headlights of the oncoming cars hit you; certain times of the year it's like flipping a switch.
As soon as the headlights land on you so to do the bugs!
Best cloudy day lens is yellow. Totally turn a gloomy cloudy day into a bright sunny one. Extend your riding time for at least another 20 or 30 miles. But if sun does come out, you're screwed as the yellow lens intensifies the light. Just can't win these days."
That's one thing I like about the Prizm lens on my Oakley EV Zero: it has a fascinating ability to separate light from shade, and seems to "brighten" the scene as the clouds roll in. It has to be pretty dang gloomy outside before I have to take them off.
I have the Prizm on an Oakley Crossrange I use off the bike which has a much lighter lens marketed to golfers. It's possibly too much light transmission for cycling on a very bright day, but great for everything else. In the end there's a whole lotta lenses out there with different light transmission qualities and you have to find what works best for you for your conditions.
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Shoot - I forgot the clear night-riding glasses. Here’s those, and I’m retrying a Radarlock photo since the other was sideways- why can’t Google be smart enough to handle this?
But back to the night glasses. These are Radar Pitch that I custom made because I needed clear lenses and to make this rather masculine model more palatable for my feminine tastes. And yet, they are not cute. Not even passably so, but they do their job. This pair is ALL function and poor form. (Doug, you ought to laugh at these, if not those others!)
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> Leah,
> No laughing induced. They look great and as I said form follows function. I think Oakley makes darn fine sunglasses and are good for cycling or whatever. Good choice I think for you style wise. Joe is the MAN for Oakleys.
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... Best cloudy day lens is yellow. Totally turn a gloomy cloudy day into a bright sunny one. Extend your riding time for at least another 20 or 30 miles. But if sun does come out, you're screwed as the yellow lens intensifies the light. Just can't win these days."
This probably isn’t going to be a popular opinion but I buy my sunglasses for riding, running, hiking, etc at Target or Home Depot or wherever. I have worked at stores selling sunglasses. I’ve attended clinics put on by the big companies, bought several pair of nice glasses, sold hundreds more, and been given several pair by the brands. I don’t find them to be much better than the cheap glasses, don’t find they last any longer, and enjoy not caring too much about my glasses while being active. I typically get clear glasses at hardware or home improvement stores and darker glasses at department stores— guessing $10-15/ pair. Drop them, stuff them in a pocket, leave them at a rest stop? No biggie.I get this isn’t for everyone but it works for me.Chris
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Safety glasses in the usa are either trivex or much more commonly polycarbonate, both of which block uv. Not much else will pass the impact standards, apparently.
The sports glasses folks all have proprietary brand names for these two materials.
Fashion/rx glasses may be made of other materials and may or may mot block uv rays.
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At that point sunglasses were required to state their UV rating. Most these days are 100%, BUT still part of the reason I don't really trust $5. shades