Sam Hillborne vintage

[Randall Rupp]

I have a Sam Hillborne that I got through this list sometime 2012, it's orange with side pull brakes, but the headtube is not filled in with the cream color like all the other one's I've seen.  It's just orange like the rest of the bike.  Was that a one batch mistake or were the early ones produced that way?

 

[Ryan M.]

I had a Sam which had a headtube like that but it had canti posts. If I remember correctly, the first Sams had a solid color head tube.

[Jason Fuller]

As far as I know Sam's were like that for the first bunch of years and only somewhat recently went to white head tube, but I'd love to see a batch list!  I have no idea how many batches came before mine (purchased in 2019).  I might have to convince someone at Riv to divulge this kind of information so I can put together a full infographic...  

[Dave Small]

Randall,

I'm pretty sure the bike you describe was their second batch, the first one being green with gold decals.  Both of those batches were single-color, so no cream head tubes.  

Dave

Boston/Indy

[RichS]

Another note on head tube color schemes: the 2014 sage green Sams were available with either two color or single color ht. 

Best,

Rich in ATL

[James Warren]

Your Sam is from batch of orange when the head tube was not cream. It was the second color since Sams first came out.

And your Sam’s vintage is excellent. I used to have one until I replaced it with a newer Sam frame!

On Nov 5, 2020, at 5:32 AM, Randall Rupp <rcr...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have a Sam Hillborne that I got through this list sometime 2012, it's orange with side pull brakes, but the headtube is not filled in with the cream color like all the other one's I've seen.  It's just orange like the rest of the bike.  Was that a one batch mistake or were the early ones produced that way?

 

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[EricP]

Yes, I believe it was first green, then orange, solid color. Had a green one. It's possible they were both available for a while. Then it was the blue with white/cream headtube option. Still sidepull brakes. And double top tubes on the big sizes. That's the model I still have. Believe the next batch after that went to canti. Really wish I had waited for that version. But of course had no idea it was in the works. 

Eric Platt

St. Paul, MN

[Patrick Moore]

I had a first edition Sam, all green with no cream or white, pre-double-top-tubes, and with cantilever brakes. Orange and sidepulls obviously came afterward.

Why did Rivendell start using calipers on the Sam? Cantilevers are a natural for this, for wider tires and fender clearance, especially as (I think) the later designs accommodated wider tires than the first ones.

On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 6:33 AM EricP <eperic...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, I believe it was first green, then orange, solid color. Had a green one. It's possible they were both available for a while. Then it was the blue with white/cream headtube option. Still sidepull brakes. And double top tubes on the big sizes. That's the model I still have. Believe the next batch after that went to canti. Really wish I had waited for that version. But of course had no idea it was in the works. 

Eric Platt

St. Paul, MN

On Friday, No

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Patrick Moore

Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum

[Eric Platt]

Patrick,

You're right. I had forgotten the first green ones were canti. For some reason had it burned in my brain mine was sidepull. Just checked some old photos. Nope. Canti mounts. Looks like I was using V brakes for most of the time. 

Wonder if it was because the Tektro long sidepulls weren't available yet? I can't run tires over 40mm and fenders on mine now. Would love to run 42 to 45 with fenders. But am so used to this bike don't want to move it on and start over with another one. Not that it matters right now as the only bike getting ridden is the Clem L.

Eric Platt

St. Paul, MN

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