New Roadini; Bag... Sackville or Swift Industries

[lambbo]

Hi folks, I've been struggling with an very important question: how to carry things on my new (much loved) Roadini.  The bike is set up with clip-in pedals and I'd like a way to bring some walking shoes and a snack plus a few small tools etc. with me on long rides. 

Anyone have experience with either:

Sackville SmallSack, in the back (worried it will hit my thighs and, despite what I hear, I think that would be annoying)

or

Swift Industries 'handlebar bag' of some sort, which is smaller seeming but also has the convenience of a clear top for the phone or map. 

Thanks!

photo below is old, before ultegra pedals and front der., 

the set up is IRD compact double crank, tiagra front and rear der, 48 Noodles, brooks B17 and bar tape, silver shifters (rear, bar-end, front, downtube), old shimano brakes from old road bike, Jack Browns, and (too few spokes?) Mavic Askium wheels that the guy who sold me the frame included for a very generous price. 

[lambbo]

By 'smallsack' I mean 'saddle-sack' small 

[Joe Bernard]

I use a small Saddlesack. It will brush your thighs, which is ok by me but you already know you won't like it.

[lconley]

I like to use a saddlebag with a Carradice Bagman support. It moves the bag away from your legs - never touches. I have two - one on a Ostrich S-2 saddle bag and one on a Nigel Smythe country bag. Plenty of room for day rides for shoes, food, tools, and a compact pump. I wish Riv still did the Nigel Smythe bags, but they seem to have evolved from the tweed thing to something more like shabby chic. The Ostrich actually has a sewn-in pocket on the bottom for the support.

Laing

Cocoa FL

[CMR]

Small saddle bag for sure, maybe with a support rack if needed.

Also, not related, I'd totally spend the money for a set of modern dual pivot brakes if you are not happy with the older ones on there. Would be a big improvement ;)

[jandrews_nyc]

The banana sax type of bag would also be very useful and you'd never feel it.  Not sure if it would carry your shoes though,.

Also, I second the notion of trying the caradice bagman support. I have had a good experience with that rack.

That looks like McGorlick Park in Greenpiont...   Is that were you are?

[Scott Blouke]

I like the roadrunner Jammer bag.  Its good as a saddle bag or a handlebar bag, its rackless and has a solid mounting.

https://roadrunnerbags.us/products/the-jammer-bag  They have a larger one and a lot of colors https://roadrunnerbags.us/blogs/road-runner-bags/colors-of-the-rainbow

On Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 3:40:48 PM UTC-7, lambbo wrote:

[Joe Bernard]

Safety orange and pink. I like it! 👍

[Ron Mc]

Going to mention Ely at Ruthworks.  He can make you a very nice rando bag to hang from a Nitto F-15 handlebar rack.  

He can use canvas or lightweight fabrics, and I would guess any choice of colors.  

 Since the rando bag a rigid internal U-box, I bolted a Cygolite helmet mount to the bottom of mine using M3s. 

https://www.ruthworkssf.com/

[Nancy Seibel]

That was one of the best "how to" videos I've ever seen!!

[Tim Gavin]

For small loads, I really like a randonneur-style front bag.  Very easy to access on and off the bike.

I have a Riv Road Standard, Leo Roadini's fancy great-grandpa.  No rack mounts on the fork (like yours), so I used a Nitto M1 Mark's Rack, plus the extra-long stays down to the fender mounts on the back of the fork tips.  Nitto M18 would work the same, and either rack can be mounted to p-clamps on the fork legs.  I just prefer the appearance and security of the long stays.

The bag is from listmember David Banzer, Treetop Bags.  

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4793/39814171615_f59483a323_k.jpg

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[Bob Lovejoy]

Sorry for the slightly OT question but can you say what size your Roadini is and the approximate saddle height (crank center -> top of saddle) as pictured?  Sorry if I missed this previously.

Thanks for any help.  Great looking bike!

Bob Lovejoy

Galesburg, IL

[Michael Doleman]

Gorgeous bike; nice build.

I had actually ordered myself a Roadini, but switched directions and got a new Sam, instead. Part of me lusts after that Roadini, as I do love the look & feel of a more "pure" and "fast" road bike. Like yourself, however, I do like to carry a few things on my rides, and do so comfortably (without stuffing jersey pockets to over-flowing, or having to cram things into some idiotically-tiny saddlebag.

For myself, the way I was planning to outfit it, was to use center pull brakes -- these: https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/brakes/diacompe-gran-compe-610-centre-pull-caliper-brake-4761-mm-drop-allen-key-fitting-front-or-rear/?geoc=US

And then use the Ene Ciclo front rack designed for them: https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/carriers-racks/diacompe-ene-front-rack-brake-mounted/?geoc=US

I thought that to be a pretty slick little system. I really like the way it gives you a nifty little front rack, yet maintains the very clean, road-oriented lines of the bike. I mean: say what you will, but there's something about the look of an unfettered fork that looks really nice. Anyway, combine the rack with a stem-mounted decaleur, you could mount a reasonably-sized handlebar bag -- which, to me, is almost always preferable to a saddlebag.

On that note, however, you also have the nifty option of getting yourself one of these: https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/luggage/carradice-original-bagman-support-expedition/?geoc=US

And support it with these: https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/luggage/carradice-bagman-stabiliser-struts/?geoc=US

From there, you can use any number of reasonably-sized saddlebags. The Carradice Barley, at 7 liters, is a great option. That, paired with a 10-ish liter handlebar bag, and you can very easily do credit-card touring.

You could also mount the Riv-exclusive Nitto mini rear rack: the bike has the properly-positioned eyelets for it. Of course, it being a "road" bike, it's more fun to keep it clear of larger racks -- but it's an option, and if you used wing-bolt fasteners, it would be easy on/off.

Best of luck :-)

On Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 3:40:48 PM UTC-7, lambbo wrote:

[Tim Bantham]

I have experience with Swift bags and don't have anything bad to say about them. I have my Sam set up similar to your Roadini. I wanted to maintain a road-ish feel yet still be able to carry stuff. I started out with a Sackville X-small saddlesack and had a Swift Paloma bag on the bars with a Quick Clix mount. This was an ok set up but I just didn't like the way the Swift bag looked. The headtube on my 62 Sam is super tall and the bag just looked funny to me on the front. I had a Marks Rack mounted at the time so I then opted for a Wald 137 basket with a Swift Sugarloaf bag. This was a really nice set up but I was getting away from my goal of keeping the Sam as unencumbered as possible. I eventually added a Appaloosa to my stable which is now reserved for touring and camping where carrying capacity is a necessity. 

As for Sackville stuff I can't say enough how much I like the product. Swift makes a nice bag but I just never did get excited about them as much as I do for Sackville bags. I currently own an X-Small, a Medium, A Large, a Banana Sax and a pair of hub area bags. Wow! I guess I have a bag obsession!

My current Sam setup is just the Banana Sax which I can highly recommend. I wouldn't be able to put shoes in there but I never would have a need for that. My recommendation is to go with Sackville. The quality and lifespan you will get out of one of their bags is well worth the price tag. 

On Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 6:40:48 PM UTC-4, lambbo wrote:

[Kellie]

Riv Banana Bag?

On Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 3:40:48 PM UTC-7, lambbo wrote:

[lambbo]

This is all super helpful!  

Bob, to answer your question about saddle height, 32.6", which is about 3/4" higher than in the photo.  I'm 6'1, and I thought this bike would be too big, it's not, it's perfect, tho I might get a shorter stem to bring the bars a hair closer, eventually. 

I think I'm going to go with the Small Sackville Saddle Sack - in blue...it seems small enough that I'm not transforming my Roadini into my Cheviot ;)  but big enough for an extra layer and a sketchpad.  

The Bagman support also seems smart - tho i'll try to jerry-rig something first.  

And CMR, I'm gonna get some new brakes - was trying to build from the parts bin but I ended up with almost all new stuff - brakes will top it all off. 

Thanks again pics when I get it!