Another Clem fender conundrum
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Jim Bronson
Apr 14, 2020, 12:46:51 AM4/14/20
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Well after 3 years, I decided to finally put the fenders on that I had purchased with the bike. There was a drenching on a rather cold day (for Texas in March) a few weeks back, and I can't have that road grime all over me again.
Thoughts of, oh why oh why didn't I just pay the $40 or whatever it was to have Rivendell put them on before shipping the bike? Come to mind at times like these.
So anyway the front fender went pretty well but the back fender was a train wreck/dumpster fire (pick one). The fender line is a disaster. There must be at least three inches between the fender and the tire near the seat stay. I put the bike in the stand and took the fender back off.
I need a long bolt and something like a wine cork to create some shim space there. I have seen these done before on other bikes
Does anyone have suggestions? I would prefer to order the bolt online. I have lots of wine corks and other assorted washers lying around.
Pics at https://photos.app.goo.gl/LTC6BnG1T9WXK2jXA of the front and rear.
Jim
Leander, TX
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Dan McNamara
Apr 14, 2020, 8:33:33 AM4/14/20
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Hi Jim,
I have used a wine cork with a long bolt to address this. There is also this item from Velo-Orange that might help:
You could probably put something similar together with a trip to the hardware store.
Good luck!
Dan
San Rafael, CA
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Mark Roland
Apr 14, 2020, 9:09:33 AM4/14/20
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Hi Jim. Fender installs are...not always so fun! But you obviously have the right idea. Just a couple things to keep in mind. Looks like you have a kickstand installed. You'll need to be fairly precise in the length of the fender bolt/nut/washer/spacer so you don't run into interference with that kickstand bolt--it's a tight fit down there.
Years ago I fashioned a home-made spring thing that you can get from VO, but that was for a bicycle with long horizontal dropouts. With verticals, not really needed in my experience.
For my latest Clem L build, as a spacer, I used one of the little thingies that covers the cantilever posts during painting, and stays on for protection in shipping. Perfect color match! (But I trimmed it a bit too short, not realizing it would also compress somewhat.)
RichS
Apr 14, 2020, 10:04:22 AM4/14/20
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Jim,
Your local hardware should have aluminum spacers (like this) in different lengths and diameters. I keep a number of them on hand. Shown here on my Atlantis.
Best,
Rich in ATL
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Patrick Moore
Apr 14, 2020, 12:34:33 PM4/14/20
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It's hard to tell without a full profile view, but it looks as if the curvature of the fender is too small for the room allowed by the frame. Besides spacers at the bridges, you can re-shape the fender to adjust the arc: squeezing the fender narrower will expand its arc. It doesn't take a great deal of width adjustment to make a considerable amount of arc adjustment.
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masmojo
Apr 14, 2020, 1:20:30 PM4/14/20
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Jim, Wine cork & whatever can work & work very well; I've made spacers out of a variety of things, but what I will suggest in this instance is something different.
Try threading in a long screw, but instead of a cork or spacer, install a fairly stiff spring!
The spring will keep the fended in place, but move out of the way should something get jammed in there OR have a little give should you need it when removing the wheel..
Cheers
tc
Apr 14, 2020, 2:30:23 PM4/14/20
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Jim,
I played around with diff combo's of spacers and washers. Ended up using a single long nylon spacer and a couple of thinner aluminum spacers. I also used a single leather washer between the nylon spacer and the fender to prevent rattles and scratches. My fenders are from VO.
Tom
(That's not a dent in the rear fender, just an unfortunate reflection.)
Tom
Jason Fuller
Apr 14, 2020, 3:07:41 PM4/14/20
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Fender installation is an exercise in patience and attention to detail, for sure. I just ordered a set of Simworks / Honjo 74mm fenders for my Clem H 45.... will be interesting to see how I make out with them, as I have to re-radius them to fit the 26" wheels then shoe-horn them into the frame (some trimming / forming will be necessary around the seat stays and chain stays). I've installed a few sets of aluminum fenders now, so I've got the skill set now, but this one'll be a challenge.
Michael Morrissey
Apr 14, 2020, 10:00:09 PM4/14/20
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Measure exactly what you need and order it from McMaster Carr. I bought a bunch of spacers there. You will be amazed by how many sizes and styles they carry. My “local hardware store” is a totally indifferent Home Depot and my trips there always end in disappointment.
ted
Apr 14, 2020, 10:08:48 PM4/14/20
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"My “local hardware store” is a totally indifferent Home Depot ..."
Ouch that's rough. There are at least two hardware stores in my town that have a nice selection of metric stainless steel hardware. Nylon spacers too.
James / Analog Cycles
Apr 15, 2020, 10:15:32 AM4/15/20
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If you want to support a bike shop instead of a hardware store (not that we don't like hardware stores!), Analog sells spacers and stainless bolts in all sorts of lengths for this kinda application. Aluminum spacers are gunna be way better than a cork, which is too compressible / springy for rough riding.
-James
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Jim Bronson
Apr 15, 2020, 6:25:53 PM4/15/20
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Thanks for the suggestions guys. I think I like Dan's suggestion of the VO springy thing the best. I'll try that first.
As for Analog's comments, agreed, rather buy from a bike retailer than a hardware store! They're most likely to have the exact stuff one needs.
-Jim
Leander(thal), TX
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Collin A
Apr 17, 2020, 5:42:02 PM4/17/20
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Can you post the results of the fender install? What tires will you plan to use these huge fenders? I'm very curious to see how it looks!
Cheers,
Collin
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