Any brazer interested in reinforcing a rear rack for KOF bike?

[Patrick Moore]

I'm covering my bets by asking this question on all the lists I belong to, so I apologize to those who see it 2 or 3 times.

Chauncey Matthews did a sterling job on the replacement and clone of my 2003 custom 26" wheel Rivendell road bike but a lousy job on the racks. The rear is to flexible and the fronts are too short top to bottom by about  4-5 cm. 

Is any builder on list able and willing to work on these? I would ship them to the person along with samples of the 2 Ortliebs I use on the racks (I use big -- Backroller -- or small -- Sports Packer on the rear rack, the small ones only on the front lowriders). The rear rack would need reinforcement, probably adding or substituting a diagonal from rear of platform to bolt-on point; the fronts would have to be remade, but with the mounting points similar to the model.

I'd rather not ship the entire bike, but this sort of work ought not to require that.

I would pay for powdercoating if the builder would be willing to handle it, or I can have it done locally.

(In case you are wondering: Chauncey was supposed to have designed the rear for seatstay attachment, but he didn't, so the bridge mounting system will have to remain.)

Photos attached.

Many thanks.

Patrick Moore

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Patrick Moore

Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I'm a brazer!! (superheroic voice), but I'm not sure how to get the waggle out of that rack with only one point of contact up top. It could be reinforced easily, but that would just make it a stronger lever when it's leveraging on your frame. What I would do is make it have some weird looking braces that steadied the rack to the seat stays. It would likely be clumsy looking, but it would certainly be stable.

-Kai

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, Kai. I talked to Stephen Bilenky this afternoon, and I am hoping that I can ship him the rack and have him make me a better one with the same attachment points, stainless, less bulky, and of course stiffer. He has a very long lead time -- December, he said -- but perhaps I'll buy a stainless Tubus to use in the meantime.

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[Mike Godwin]

Patrick is the front rack based on the dimensions of the first fork or the replacement fork?

Mike SLO CA

On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 5:42:47 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

Thanks, Kai. I talked to Stephen Bilenky this afternoon, and I am hoping that I can ship him the rack and have him make me a better one with the same attachment points, stainless, less bulky, and of course stiffer. He has a very long lead time -- December, he said -- but perhaps I'll buy a stainless Tubus to use in the meantime.

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 6:19 PM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm a brazer!! (superheroic voice), but I'm not sure how to get the waggle out of that rack with only one point of contact up top. It could be reinforced easily, but that would just make it a stronger lever when it's leveraging on your frame. What I would do is make it have some weird looking braces that steadied the rack to the seat stays. It would likely be clumsy looking, but it would certainly be stable.

-Kai

On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 10:45:34 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

I'm covering my bets by asking this question on all the lists I belong to, so I apologize to those who see it 2 or 3 times.

Chauncey Matthews did a sterling job on the replacement and clone of my 2003 custom 26" wheel Rivendell road bike but a lousy job on the racks. The rear is to flexible and the fronts are too short top to bottom by about  4-5 cm. 

Is any builder on list able and willing to work on these? I would ship them to the person along with samples of the 2 Ortliebs I use on the racks (I use big -- Backroller -- or small -- Sports Packer on the rear rack, the small ones only on the front lowriders). The rear rack would need reinforcement, probably adding or substituting a diagonal from rear of platform to bolt-on point; the fronts would have to be remade, but with the mounting points similar to the model.

I'd rather not ship the entire bike, but this sort of work ought not to require that.

I would pay for powdercoating if the builder would be willing to handle it, or I can have it done locally.

(In case you are wondering: Chauncey was supposed to have designed the rear for seatstay attachment, but he didn't, so the bridge mounting system will have to remain.)

Photos attached.

Many thanks.

Patrick Moore

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Patrick Moore

Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum

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[Patrick Moore]

The front racks are small lowriders that bolt onto fork boss and boss on fender "arch." He built them for the new fork.

But the lowriders are not in fact a problem; I discovered I can simply reverse the hook attachment on the backside of the Sports panniers so that they fit into the perimeter of the rack; so readjusted, they work well on these.

So now it's a matter of that rear rack, and I'm talking to a builder about a replacement.

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