Looking for Carradice Camper / Sackville comparisons
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opa...@gmail.com
Dec 14, 2011, 9:03:57 AM12/14/11
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Anyone out there owned and used both the Carradice Camper Longflap and the Sackville SaddleSacks (medium or large)? How do they compare sizewise and rigidity?
It looks like the Sackville bags have a more rigid bottom to them from the pictures on the RBW site.? I have a Carradice bag now but, (I dread writing this) the bag tends to sag. That is, hanging off the back of the saddle, the bag tends to droop, both downwards and with a very slight semi-circular curve around the seat post. The downward sag (or droop in the center) is worse than the forward tending sag. It's bad enough that I've cut up some of those semi-rigid cardboard type "for sale" signs in the bottom of the bag, but even these get all bendy when stuff is stuffed in the bag. I don't use my IRD rack when I have the Carradice on the bike as it jabs right up into the center of the bag..
Thoughts?
Cheers,
Robert
It looks like the Sackville bags have a more rigid bottom to them from the pictures on the RBW site.? I have a Carradice bag now but, (I dread writing this) the bag tends to sag. That is, hanging off the back of the saddle, the bag tends to droop, both downwards and with a very slight semi-circular curve around the seat post. The downward sag (or droop in the center) is worse than the forward tending sag. It's bad enough that I've cut up some of those semi-rigid cardboard type "for sale" signs in the bottom of the bag, but even these get all bendy when stuff is stuffed in the bag. I don't use my IRD rack when I have the Carradice on the bike as it jabs right up into the center of the bag..
Thoughts?
Cheers,
Robert
Bill Carter
Dec 14, 2011, 10:44:03 AM12/14/11
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I have never used the Camper, but I have had a Barley bag reinfored
with cardboard in the bottom for several years. I use the Riv Silver
Hupe and have had no problems with sagging.
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r9.htm
I found it necessary to wrap the stays with some electrical tape for
paint protection when installing, but the Hupe is an ingenious little
device that can be adjusted vertically more easily than a rack.
with cardboard in the bottom for several years. I use the Riv Silver
Hupe and have had no problems with sagging.
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r9.htm
I found it necessary to wrap the stays with some electrical tape for
paint protection when installing, but the Hupe is an ingenious little
device that can be adjusted vertically more easily than a rack.
jimD
Dec 14, 2011, 11:39:53 AM12/14/11
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Or use coroplast in lieu of cardboard.
When real politickin' is going on there are lots of signs that use this.
The day after voting you can get a varicolored, multi partisan, lifetime supply.
-JimD
When real politickin' is going on there are lots of signs that use this.
The day after voting you can get a varicolored, multi partisan, lifetime supply.
-JimD
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René Sterental
Dec 15, 2011, 1:30:36 AM12/15/11
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I have both bags, actually all three, don't ask why. I use them all with the Nitto R-14 rack. The Carradice rests on the rack but sags on both sides around it. I can also feel the edges of the top behind the saddle with my butt. Both Sackville SaddleSacks become invisible (I don't feel them at all) when on the bike and I like them both, but of the two, I've fallen in love with the large one that I now use for commuting.
I like the Carradice for leisure rides because of the two side pockets but feel it is less practical for commuting. Haven't tried using it without the anitto rear rack. It also goes very well with my Nitto Big Rear smaller rack, which I can use on the Hunqapillar de to the higher placed seat stay braze-on which in turn allow the rack to fall right below the saddle loops. The larger version falls behind the saddle loops and the top section interferes with the bottom of the SaddleSacks.
If I had to choose only one and give the others away, I'd probably stay with the large SaddleSack. If I only could have two, I'd add the Carradice Camper.
Hope this helps,
René
I like the Carradice for leisure rides because of the two side pockets but feel it is less practical for commuting. Haven't tried using it without the anitto rear rack. It also goes very well with my Nitto Big Rear smaller rack, which I can use on the Hunqapillar de to the higher placed seat stay braze-on which in turn allow the rack to fall right below the saddle loops. The larger version falls behind the saddle loops and the top section interferes with the bottom of the SaddleSacks.
If I had to choose only one and give the others away, I'd probably stay with the large SaddleSack. If I only could have two, I'd add the Carradice Camper.
Hope this helps,
René
Manuel Acosta
Dec 15, 2011, 1:06:56 PM12/15/11
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Go with the sackville. I've have both. I've lost my wallet with my
carradice side pockets on a ride from marin. I've had to juryrig my
carradice when I would ride without fenders. My sackville is much
more versatile. Very well thought out.
carradice side pockets on a ride from marin. I've had to juryrig my
carradice when I would ride without fenders. My sackville is much
more versatile. Very well thought out.
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