1x9 11-50t friction shift set up for GBW/Suzy
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Deacon Patrick
May 23, 2020, 9:38:45 PM5/23/20
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For all you pondering your GBW builds, this was simple on my Gus prototype (and wow! is it great having friction shifting back and wider spacing between gears!)
- Box Components: Two 11-50t x-wide 9-speed cassette, derailure, and two chains (two required for the long chain stays, keep the second for next round each time)
- Rivendell's Silver Shifter 2 and long shifter cable.
My wee test ride stunned me with how easily it came together, requiring zero adjustments. I'll get out on the trails and see how it rides and report back here. Wonderfully smooth so far. Should be a bit lower gearing for climbing yet more insane stuff, same high gear.
Ed Fausto
May 24, 2020, 4:47:27 AM5/24/20
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Hi Patrick,
Can you give more details on your GBW build?
What is the brand of your 11-50t 9 speed cassette?
What crankset did you use?
Edgar
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Joe Bernard
May 24, 2020, 4:55:08 AM5/24/20
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Box Components makes derailers and cassettes. Which I just discovered.
https://www.boxcomponents.com/custitem_itemcat_main/MTB/custitem_itemcat_sub1/Derailleurs
Deacon Patrick
May 24, 2020, 6:46:06 AM5/24/20
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Hey Ed. Aye, Joe spotted it: Box Components. Easy to miss, being a fairly generic sounding name. I got this groupset: https://www.boxcomponents.com/Box-Two-P9-X-Wide-Multi-Shift-Groupset_2
The cassette is steel cogs, so should last a good long while. Box offer several price points, creatively named one, two, three, and four. Grin. I got "two", it being the heartiest. I have a friction shifter new in box I'll return once I've ridden trails more to ensure everything is happy with the Silver Shifter. I got the groupset in case the silver shifter didn't work (Box said friction is not compatible though some have made it work ... then sent me to some fancy Wolf Tooth part. Riv said, "Box? It works great! SRAM, no, Box yes." I followed Box's install video and Riv's install page, and was prepared to be down a bike for however long it took me to dial things in. Best first test ride I've ever had of my own wrenching. Nothing to adjust. It was dialed. Oh, and you'll definitely want a quicklink tool ... these are stubborn to get in, and I has to work the links back and forth to loosen them up once clicked in.
Today we're supposed to get rain and snow, desperately needed, so it'll be a good test of how it all works.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 2:47:27 AM UTC-6, ed wrote:
Hi Patrick,Can you give more details on your GBW build?What is the brand of your 11-50t 9 speed cassette?What crankset did you use?Edgar
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 9:38 AM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
For all you pondering your GBW builds, this was simple on my Gus prototype (and wow! is it great having friction shifting back and wider spacing between gears!)--- Box Components: Two 11-50t x-wide 9-speed cassette, derailure, and two chains (two required for the long chain stays, keep the second for next round each time)- Rivendell's Silver Shifter 2 and long shifter cable.My wee test ride stunned me with how easily it came together, requiring zero adjustments. I'll get out on the trails and see how it rides and report back here. Wonderfully smooth so far. Should be a bit lower gearing for climbing yet more insane stuff, same high gear.
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Deacon Patrick
May 24, 2020, 2:34:19 PM5/24/20
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One word review from first full ride on all surfaces: Solid.
More word review: Each gear feels closer to the solidity of fixed gear or single speed, I presume because of the combo of 9 speed chain and steel cogs. Interestingly, this gives a wider range of comfort for each gear. With the 11 speed I always felt like if I pushed it in a gear the gear would skip/bend/break. I'm delighted so far.
With abandon,
Patrick
JohnS
Jun 6, 2020, 4:36:53 PM6/6/20
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Hello DP,
How's the Box drive train working out for you? I'm considering the Box 3 prime 9 11-46 cassette and Box 3 prime 9 chain for my Salsa Casseroll which my teenage son has been riding. He's not interested in a front derailleur so a wider range 9 would be good for him. He likes the Silver down tube shifter and usually doesn't have an issue with the friction shifting.
JohnS (who's now riding a Crust Lightning Bolt canti rando bike)
A. Douglas M.
Jun 6, 2020, 6:42:23 PM6/6/20
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In this same vein, I’m running the Microshift Advent 9 speed 11-42 derailleur, cassette (Steel), And trigger shifter. I think it came out to $130 or so for the group set, and it’s been great on my fillet brazed 29+.
You could use their thumbies if you wanted friction shifting. I’m surprised these setups are not more popular for the price and quality.
Best,
Aaron
You could use their thumbies if you wanted friction shifting. I’m surprised these setups are not more popular for the price and quality.
Best,
Aaron
Deacon Patrick
Jun 6, 2020, 6:58:13 PM6/6/20
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Smooth as butter, John. I think he'll really like the set-up. The range of the Silver shifter allows for non-fiddly shifting. The first round of Silver Shifters seemed to be fussy, needing just a bit of range per gear, making it tricky to shift on a jouncy trail. Not so with two. The derailure was easy to install and set up, using the video on Box's site dialed it almost perfectly (I found a bit of extra tension in the wee cog makes for perfect alignment for shifting all nine gears beautifully). Minimal chain bounce and snug chain with the clutch system works well too.
With abandon,
Patrick
JohnS
Jun 7, 2020, 5:31:36 PM6/7/20
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Thank you Aaron and DP for the feedback. I have to dial in the additional cost/search for a new rear derailleur. The vintage Deore most likely won't work with the gearing range.
JohnS
Garth
Jun 9, 2020, 2:05:48 AM6/9/20
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Hey John, one of derailleur tab extenders like a Wolf Roadlink allows the use of such large cogs with derailleurs that couldn't otherwise work. It doesn't alter the RD ch!in wrap capacity of course, just the ability to work with huge cogs. So an 11-46 1x should work with even the older RD's that have at least a 35t chain wrap capacity.
JohnS
Jun 9, 2020, 1:11:32 PM6/9/20
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Thank you Garth, I was wondering if such adapters were available. The Deore RD has a long cage, so it might be a good candidate. I'll have to do some investigate to make sure.
JohnS
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