I like the look of these

[William]

http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ag4.htm

These look pretty slick.  

[Garth]

Uhhhh, I fail to see how these function better than a glove or mitt.  I'm surprised they made it to market .. as I don't get the concept and reasoning at all .  LoL !!

[Kelly Sleeper]

hmmm.. look like hand splats.

[William]

I like the idea because I hate having hands too hot, and have experienced chilly digits going down a hill.  Something easy on easy off, that's cheap and packs down to nothing seems like it would fill a nice little role.  A nice set of gloves for everything but cold descents plus these for cold descents.  What's not to get?  LoL !!

[William Pustow]

   I agree - they seem goofy. What's wrong with a.......glove. Wow, now there's an idea!

Bill

Louisville, Ky

By the way, the splats make sense.

On Nov 21, 2011, at 6:39 PM, Garth wrote:

Uhhhh, I fail to see how these function better than a glove or mitt.  I'm surprised they made it to market .. as I don't get the concept and reasoning at all .  LoL !!

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[William]

These, umm, go with a glove.  These make whatever glove into a super glove.  

You've never seen a windmitt?

http://www.pearlizumi.com/publish/content/pi_2010/us/en/index/products/men/ride/accessories/0.-productCode-14341106.html

These things are great.  tuck your fingers in going down hill.  Untuck when your fingers get hot.  Only problem is these Pearl Izumi ones are made someplace where apparently they don't know how to make things that don't fall apart.  I've restitched mine 3 times now to keep them going for one year.  These cheap, waterproof MUSA ones allow me (or you) all the versatility using any glove you like.  Now my dot wool gloves are rain gloves.  That's pretty neat in my book.  

[Bill M.]

Toe covers for fingers.

[Forrest]

I like the idea of turning an okay glove into a super glove (though I suppose you could just go ahead and buy super-gloves). These are hilarious, and I bet they work great. I might get some if I need to bump an RBW order up to $150 to get free shipping. Don't analyze the economic sense of that.  -- Forrest

[Ginz]

You can wear a wool glove without the permanent sweatiness of a sewn-
in wind/weather layer. I kind of like it.

[Manuel Acosta]

Looks like another odd-ball winner! I'm all for it. I'm sick of trying
to check messages on my phone with cold digits.
-Manny

[Garth]

I can honestly there has never been a time in my life I would could ever see the benefit of these to myself, and my hands get cold easily ! These hand splats must be a California thing or something .. lol  :)   

In the 50's I'm fine with good ol' $2.99 brown cotton gloves, in the 40's a Windstopper glove. In the 30's a Primaloft glove, and below that Primaloft mittens. I fine tune them all with a pair of supposedly disposable-yet perfectly reusable nitrile gloves if I want a complete vapor barrier.  But hey .... everyone's different :)  Glad the hand splats work for someone .

[William]

Tell me about nitrile:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157626131698281/

In my riding I go up and down hils.  Going up its easy for me to get hot and going down it's easy for me to get cold.  Having a system that allows me to make significant layering changes in my clothing to stay comfortable is useful to me. 

I apologize most sincerely if my confession that a Rivendell Bicycle Works product appeals to me was offensive to you or anybody else.  I try to keep an open mind.  I don't know everything. 

[Patrick in VT]

On Nov 21, 11:47 pm, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tell me about nitrile:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157626131698281/

ah, the nitrile glove. as a Vermonter and cyclocross racer, these are
*the* ticket to warm fingers in very thin gloves when it's very cold
outside. Except that when I race, the nitrile goes underneath a very
thin/kind of windproof glove - hands get a little clammy after an
hour, but they're warm and I keep maximum control with a near bare-
hand feel on the bars.

i can see those hand splats being useful in heavy rains - seems like
great rando gear.

[Beth H]

This is the first product I've seen that has potential for our rainy
Pac NW Climate.
Though temps here can drop as low as in Vermont during the winter,
they don't stay there.
Most gloves meant for "winter" use are too clammy for Portland use. OR
makes an overmitt that can be used alone or with a heavier glove
underneath, but the long wrist coverage makes it hard to use with a
rain jacket for just everyday riding.
This is the closest I've seen to something that might work. I think
the thumb coverage still needs a little work; my thumbs get cold when
left un/underprotected. But that's a minor quibble.
Wish I'd seen these before I placed my Riv order last week.
Beth in PDX, where it's gusting hard, 55F and raining sideways outside

[Garth]

William ,  It's all good.  I'm just having a humbling ornery human reactionary moment to them.  My opinion reflects on no one but myself, and that's the end of that .

 Speaking of not knowing ..... I know what I know .... and that's but a fraction of all there is to know.  I , like all of us, am just making our my through life and trying to enjoy the moments.  Whatever makes our lives a little better for us ..... hail hail in celebration !   

 Nitrile really is super .  My hands can be soaking wet even from perspiration but because of the vapor barrier effect they're still toasty.  After I ride I turn them inside out and rinse them, hang to dry and reuse them 'till they fall apart or tear.

[cyclotourist]

So people really ride their bikes if the temp drops below 65F???  Amazing!  :-)

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From: cyclotourist <cyclot...@gmail.com>
To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 22, 2011 7:53:39 AM
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: I like the look of these

[Patrick in VT]

On Nov 22, 10:53 am, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So people really ride their bikes if the temp drops below 65F???  Amazing!

25degrees commuting home last night! we've been spoiled a bit lately,
and I suffered. what's really amazing is how we all adapt .. . .25
will feel warm (or at least bearable) soon enough!

[jimD]

As a wimpy Californian I have great respect for those folks who ride in temps lower than

40 F. I really like riding my bike but I'm not sure I like it that much.

-JimD

[cyclotourist]

I'm a full on coddled SoCalian.  I bought my first cycling jacket last year! 
I'm such a wuss!

[Patrick in VT]

On Nov 22, 11:25 am, jimD <rasterd...@comcast.net> wrote:
> As a wimpy Californian I have great respect for those folks who ride in temps lower than
> 40 F.

meh. it's like anything else. if you have the right kit, it ain't so
bad. and believe me, when the alternative is to not ride, you find a
solution and make it work - most folks on this list would go nuts if
they were kept off the bike for a week, let alone an entire winter!
that said, 5 months of temps around freezing gets old (at least for
cycling), and I'm taking a mid-winter thaw this year in California
this year.

[ascpgh]

I have a neoprene pair from Gator Sports that I've used for... geez,
20 years! They extend the season (and dryness) of any favorite pair of
gloves until serious winter goods are inescapable.

Andy
Pittsburgh, PA

[benzzoy]

I used to work as a tech in the biotech industry where 12 to 16-hour
shifts in 2-8°C (36-46°F) processing rooms are (were?) the norm. We
required dexterity to operate keyboards/keypads (try that with PI
Lobster gloves) and small control valves/switches and the nitrile-over-
woolen-liner thing was de-rigor.

The only issue I experienced with this setup was the nitrile gloves
tend to tear and so wouldn't last anywhere as long as a real cycling
glove. I remember going through half a dozen pairs in a shift when it
was busy. But they're light and compact, so I can see packing a few
pairs for a ride. Actually, I already have a pair in the tubes-n-
tools kit but that's more to prevent greasy rather than cold hands.

On Nov 21, 8:47 pm, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tell me about nitrile:

> ...