Joe's "Elite Racer" tire sealant

[Jay in Tel Aviv]

Anybody heard of this stuff? Recommended by my LBS for "roadie"
pressures, 70-80 psi in my case.
I bought a bottle last week after flatting my the rear Supreme on my
Sam and put it in the punctured tube as a test.
Pouring it in there took a bit of trial and error, but it does seems
to be holding. And I do mean pouring, rather than squeezing through
the little tube they give you, which did not work at all.
Keeping my fingers crossed. Seems like a good idea to me as backup for
the Supremes, at least on the rear.
Unlike Slime it does need to be replaced every 6 months or so.

Jay

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

No opinion on the Elite Racer sealant, but Stan's NoTubes has some entertaining videos about punctures and sealants:
http://www.notubes.com/help_center.aspx

[Michael Hechmer]

I've never actually met someone with a good story to tell about tire sealants.  Experience suggests to me that for situations where a flat is a major PITA, like commuting, best to go with tire tuffy and a beefy tire.  Of course there's nothing to be done with a tire that seems to know when it is dark, cold, and rainy; and perhaps resents being ridden over broken pavement, rocks, and glass. (My only experience, entirely unpleasant, with goat heads has been while camping in the desert and don't know if they lurk about the middle east.)

At the other end of the spectrum, where pure joy, rather than getting either to the office or home, drives my raison d'cycle, I choose to go with lively tires, especially in the front; and accept flats as a reason to stop, relax, and regenerate.

Michael

Westford VT, where we are having this weird phenomenon of robins in Feb.!

   

[PATRICK MOORE]

I've used Slime and at least two other brands and have found that while sealants do stop or slow thorn punctures they don't stop flats from larger penetrants and that these simply allow the goop to squirt out of the tube into the tire carcass leaving a bloody mess. Are there brands which will effectively seal a roofing nail hole?

As for liners, they do help against larger objects but I've found that goatheads (not to mention nails) sometimes get past Mr Tuffys, usually where the liner leaves an unprotected area as in the tread near the sidewalls -- and some goatheads will go straight through Mr. Tuffys.

OTOH, I did once, purely by chance, buy a used CyclePro mountain bike that had 1.95 slicks that must themselves have had a belt and that were filled with almost solid thornproof tubes that must have weighed as much as the tires. I rode this through a mile of goathead plants, on cement (dirt may not quite drive a thorn through a tough tire before the wheel's movement throws the thorn off) and came back with literally a hundred thorns embedded in each tire. I flicked them off and, after several days, no air loss. But the ride quality was so bad that, sincerely, I'd probably give up cycling and take up golf or bird watching if such wheels were the only option for riding.

So, buy your patches in boxes of 100 and learn the skill, say I. At least goatheads generally cause slow leaks, allowing one to finish at least shorter rides.

   

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[cyclotourist]

Put me in the positive category, I love Stan's! Just last week I ran
over something that put a 2mm puncture in my tire. I think it was a
barbed wire point. Sure that I was a goner, I just kept riding and
riding, and riding and riding... sealed right up! I don't have enough
miles on them to tell you about trail-side maintenance for when they
don't work, but I carry an extra spare tube for that occasion.
Supposed to be a super pain when/if it happens though.

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