Atlantis 58cm For Sale on eBay
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MM
Nov 1, 2009, 1:36:41 AM11/1/09
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Nice looking ride, with shellacked Noodles, a Carradice Barley, and
Nitto cages thrown in.
See http://j.mp/2f7ohK
Nitto cages thrown in.
See http://j.mp/2f7ohK
doug peterson
Nov 1, 2009, 12:18:19 PM11/1/09
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If anyone out there is contemplating an Atlantis, this one's nicely
spec'd out and priced right. The 58 cm size must be really wrong for
the seller to give up after only 200 miles but stuff happens.
Someone's gonna get a nice bike. No relation to seller, just a happy
Atlantis owner.
dougP
spec'd out and priced right. The 58 cm size must be really wrong for
the seller to give up after only 200 miles but stuff happens.
Someone's gonna get a nice bike. No relation to seller, just a happy
Atlantis owner.
dougP
Seth Vidal
Nov 1, 2009, 2:15:07 PM11/1/09
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On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 1:18 PM, doug peterson <doug...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> If anyone out there is contemplating an Atlantis, this one's nicely
> spec'd out and priced right. The 58 cm size must be really wrong for
> the seller to give up after only 200 miles but stuff happens.
> Someone's gonna get a nice bike. No relation to seller, just a happy
> Atlantis owner.
>
>
> If anyone out there is contemplating an Atlantis, this one's nicely
> spec'd out and priced right. The 58 cm size must be really wrong for
> the seller to give up after only 200 miles but stuff happens.
> Someone's gonna get a nice bike. No relation to seller, just a happy
> Atlantis owner.
>
My only confusion - the ad says NOS suntour barcons but they look like
the shimano indexed ones instead.
makes me wonder if everything else matches up.
-sv
Surf
Nov 2, 2009, 6:26:56 AM11/2/09
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I am curious in what way the bike doesnt fit? I would like to know
since I too am interested in an Atlantis.
Surf
Shawn
Nov 2, 2009, 7:35:19 AM11/2/09
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After reading the ad, it sounds like the owner is saying that the top
tube is too long, but it looks like he has 10cm stem.
tube is too long, but it looks like he has 10cm stem.
Surf
Nov 2, 2009, 3:51:58 PM11/2/09
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I find it hard to believe that someone would drop 3500.00 and not
measure his pbh and read the Riv sites frame sizing guide. The price
you pay for assuming. I feel bad for the ol lad. It will be a good
deal for someone.
Surf
Jeff S
Nov 2, 2009, 5:06:07 PM11/2/09
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I find this odd, too. The seller starts out by saying don't assume a
bike fits you even if it is the same manufacturer. While honest and
correct, who'd buy it other than folks who have sat on an Atlantis.
Interesting.
A real beauty, too, that Atlantis.
bike fits you even if it is the same manufacturer. While honest and
correct, who'd buy it other than folks who have sat on an Atlantis.
Interesting.
A real beauty, too, that Atlantis.
MM
Nov 10, 2009, 1:31:54 AM11/10/09
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I'm the seller. Fit is one of two reasons I am selling the bike, but
here are the details:
I own a 58cm Rambouillet that fits beautifully. My PBH is 82.5, but I
am over 6' tall, so I am more sensitive than most to top tube length.
The Rambo has a 57cm TT, the Atlantis a 58.5. I can straddle the Rambo
easily, but not the Atlantis. Had I noticed that the 56cm Atlantis had
a 57cm TT, I would have bought it. Instead, i reasoned that i rode a
58cm in a Rivendell and got it wrong. BTW, the fit is not a disaster,
but when you are used to a really good fit, that's what you want.
The second reason I am selling the bike is that I ride it a lot in the
city and it's a rough city -- at least parts of it are rough. I paid
$2800 for the bike without wheels (the frame had been in the guy's
shop for > a year), but it would cost well over $3k to replace today.
For me, that's too much bike to leave locked in Oakland, California.
For for day / club rides I have the Rambouillet.
So in addition to fit, I am selling it so that I can buy a bike that
doesn't look expensive. Surly LHT's are very similar to the Atlantis,
you can get them use for $500, and the decals scrape off easily. Much
easier bike to lock up and not worry about, but still a very nice ride
and able to do 1-2 night tours when I need to.
As to the comments on the shifters -- it was a screw up. I have used
mustache and Albatross bars on the two bikes and the SunTours were on
different bars. It hardly matters: DuraAce barcons are fine.
So it may really is a nice bike and may be a very good deal. I have no
idea what the auction will close at (my guess is over $2k, but it's
not there yet).
And FWIW, if I were buying another Rivendell, I'd personally look hard
at the Yves Gomez.
here are the details:
I own a 58cm Rambouillet that fits beautifully. My PBH is 82.5, but I
am over 6' tall, so I am more sensitive than most to top tube length.
The Rambo has a 57cm TT, the Atlantis a 58.5. I can straddle the Rambo
easily, but not the Atlantis. Had I noticed that the 56cm Atlantis had
a 57cm TT, I would have bought it. Instead, i reasoned that i rode a
58cm in a Rivendell and got it wrong. BTW, the fit is not a disaster,
but when you are used to a really good fit, that's what you want.
The second reason I am selling the bike is that I ride it a lot in the
city and it's a rough city -- at least parts of it are rough. I paid
$2800 for the bike without wheels (the frame had been in the guy's
shop for > a year), but it would cost well over $3k to replace today.
For me, that's too much bike to leave locked in Oakland, California.
For for day / club rides I have the Rambouillet.
So in addition to fit, I am selling it so that I can buy a bike that
doesn't look expensive. Surly LHT's are very similar to the Atlantis,
you can get them use for $500, and the decals scrape off easily. Much
easier bike to lock up and not worry about, but still a very nice ride
and able to do 1-2 night tours when I need to.
As to the comments on the shifters -- it was a screw up. I have used
mustache and Albatross bars on the two bikes and the SunTours were on
different bars. It hardly matters: DuraAce barcons are fine.
So it may really is a nice bike and may be a very good deal. I have no
idea what the auction will close at (my guess is over $2k, but it's
not there yet).
And FWIW, if I were buying another Rivendell, I'd personally look hard
at the Yves Gomez.
Garth
Nov 10, 2009, 7:06:07 AM11/10/09
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MM , Yeah ..... all these bikes are nice and all ..... but when it
comes to actually using them in an urban environment, theft becomes a
huge issue.
Even a Surly or any brand name frame becomes a target. It's like you
have to ride junk just to minimize your chances of theft. It's sadly
ironic one can park a car most places
and not worry about it..... but a bicycle is a target as soon as you
leave the house.
I remember many years ago when I bought my shiny new '83 Stumpjumper
in Flagstaff it didn't take more than a few weeks before someone
attempted to steal it
on the university campus. Fortunately he was caught in the act.... but
it was a clear signal that no amount of locks made it "safe" in
public.
comes to actually using them in an urban environment, theft becomes a
huge issue.
Even a Surly or any brand name frame becomes a target. It's like you
have to ride junk just to minimize your chances of theft. It's sadly
ironic one can park a car most places
and not worry about it..... but a bicycle is a target as soon as you
leave the house.
I remember many years ago when I bought my shiny new '83 Stumpjumper
in Flagstaff it didn't take more than a few weeks before someone
attempted to steal it
on the university campus. Fortunately he was caught in the act.... but
it was a clear signal that no amount of locks made it "safe" in
public.
newenglandbike
Nov 10, 2009, 9:57:12 AM11/10/09
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> I own a 58cm Rambouillet that fits beautifully. My PBH is 82.5, but I
> am over 6' tall, so I am more sensitive than most to top tube length.
How are you measuring your PBH? I only ask because I'm looking at
> am over 6' tall, so I am more sensitive than most to top tube length.
your seat height, and just eyeballin' it, it looks like you have about
~11-12cm of post exposed. Add 8cm for the B17 seat depth, and you
get 20cm+58cm, or a seat height of about ~78cm. Generally, your
seat is at the right height when it's about 10cm less than your
PBH. That would put your PBH at 88cm, or 87cm perhaps. If this is
the case, this bike is the perfect fit for you.
When you say you cannot straddle it easily, do you mean that your
'crotch bone' (*bone* being the operative word) prevents you from
having both feet on the ground (with shoes on)? Because unless that
is the issue, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Even if that
*were* the issue, I wouldn't worry too much about it. In actual
riding, rarely, IF EVER, do you need to straddle your top tube with
both feet flat on the ground.
Going by Rivendell's 'policy' on bike fit, the most important thing is
that your frame size allows you to get your handlebars at the right
height. It looks (again, just eyeballing it) like this bike does
that just fine the way you have it set up.
*(I also ask because 82.5cm seems *really* low for someone over 6'
tall. I'm not challenging you, I'm just wondering if somehow your
measurement is askew).
Mojo
Nov 10, 2009, 10:32:38 AM11/10/09
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Hi MM,
Not to pile on with Newenglandbike's comments, but I too am 6 foot
with a 89.2cm PBH. I ride 60-62cm road bikes, including a 60cm LHT (I
couldn't justify the cost of an Atlantis for my hauling bike). Your
bike's saddle height visually looks like a good fit, perhaps even on
the small side of a good fit.
That your legs are 2.6 inches shorter than mine is possible I suppose;
but, dare I say, unlikely. Do you wear pants with a 32ish inseam?
Now, if you are wanting a different bike, that is a different matter.
I wish yours was a 61cm and I would trade you my LHT and throw in some
significant cash to boot.
I do not mean to second guessing you in a non-friendly way. Just
offering my incomplete-knowledged perspective. Its a beauty of a bike
and I hate for you to regret the sale in the future.
> > A real beauty, too, thatAtlantis.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Not to pile on with Newenglandbike's comments, but I too am 6 foot
with a 89.2cm PBH. I ride 60-62cm road bikes, including a 60cm LHT (I
couldn't justify the cost of an Atlantis for my hauling bike). Your
bike's saddle height visually looks like a good fit, perhaps even on
the small side of a good fit.
That your legs are 2.6 inches shorter than mine is possible I suppose;
but, dare I say, unlikely. Do you wear pants with a 32ish inseam?
Now, if you are wanting a different bike, that is a different matter.
I wish yours was a 61cm and I would trade you my LHT and throw in some
significant cash to boot.
I do not mean to second guessing you in a non-friendly way. Just
offering my incomplete-knowledged perspective. Its a beauty of a bike
and I hate for you to regret the sale in the future.
>
> - Show quoted text -
MM
Nov 10, 2009, 1:55:30 PM11/10/09
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The photos do not reflect my riding position. Look closely and you
will see that the bike is not even ridable -- it has no cables for
brakes or derailers. I rode with Albatross bars, which I am keeping.
BTW, I agree with your comments about straddling. It is not a big
deal. The bigger problem for me is that with a 2.5 degree rise in the
top tube, the virtual top tube length, which is what matters, is
probably closer to 60cm on a 58cm Atlantis. I feel like a little kid
riding his big brother's bike. I can manage it fine, but the 56 feels
dialed in (I rode one). Obviously the 56cm is affected by 26" wheels,
etc.
> > The Rambo has a 57cm TT, theAtlantisa 58.5. I can straddle the Rambo
> > easily, but not theAtlantis. Had I noticed that the 56cmAtlantishad
will see that the bike is not even ridable -- it has no cables for
brakes or derailers. I rode with Albatross bars, which I am keeping.
BTW, I agree with your comments about straddling. It is not a big
deal. The bigger problem for me is that with a 2.5 degree rise in the
top tube, the virtual top tube length, which is what matters, is
probably closer to 60cm on a 58cm Atlantis. I feel like a little kid
riding his big brother's bike. I can manage it fine, but the 56 feels
dialed in (I rode one). Obviously the 56cm is affected by 26" wheels,
etc.
> > easily, but not theAtlantis. Had I noticed that the 56cmAtlantishad
MM
Nov 10, 2009, 1:58:08 PM11/10/09
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Well if me having a 32 inch inseam "seems unlikely" consider that my
inseam is 29 inches with no socks showing -- and I am slightly over 6'
tall. Like I said, I could be in the circus. :)
On Nov 10, 7:32 am, Mojo <gjtra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi MM,
>
> Not to pile on with Newenglandbike's comments, but I too am 6 foot
> with a 89.2cm PBH. I ride 60-62cm road bikes, including a 60cm LHT (I
> couldn't justify the cost of anAtlantisfor my hauling bike). Your
> > easily, but not theAtlantis. Had I noticed that the 56cmAtlantishad
inseam is 29 inches with no socks showing -- and I am slightly over 6'
tall. Like I said, I could be in the circus. :)
On Nov 10, 7:32 am, Mojo <gjtra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi MM,
>
> Not to pile on with Newenglandbike's comments, but I too am 6 foot
> with a 89.2cm PBH. I ride 60-62cm road bikes, including a 60cm LHT (I
> bike's saddle height visually looks like a good fit, perhaps even on
> the small side of a good fit.
>
> That your legs are 2.6 inches shorter than mine is possible I suppose;
> but, dare I say, unlikely. Do you wear pants with a 32ish inseam?
>
> Now, if you are wanting a different bike, that is a different matter.
> I wish yours was a 61cm and I would trade you my LHT and throw in some
> significant cash to boot.
>
> I do not mean to second guessing you in a non-friendly way. Just
> offering my incomplete-knowledged perspective. Its a beauty of a bike
> and I hate for you to regret the sale in the future.
>
> On Nov 9, 11:31 pm, MM <martyman...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm the seller. Fit is one of two reasons I am selling the bike, but
> > here are the details:
>
> > I own a 58cm Rambouillet that fits beautifully. My PBH is 82.5, but I
> > am over 6' tall, so I am more sensitive than most to top tube length.
> > The Rambo has a 57cm TT, theAtlantisa 58.5. I can straddle the Rambo
> the small side of a good fit.
>
> That your legs are 2.6 inches shorter than mine is possible I suppose;
> but, dare I say, unlikely. Do you wear pants with a 32ish inseam?
>
> Now, if you are wanting a different bike, that is a different matter.
> I wish yours was a 61cm and I would trade you my LHT and throw in some
> significant cash to boot.
>
> I do not mean to second guessing you in a non-friendly way. Just
> offering my incomplete-knowledged perspective. Its a beauty of a bike
> and I hate for you to regret the sale in the future.
>
> On Nov 9, 11:31 pm, MM <martyman...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm the seller. Fit is one of two reasons I am selling the bike, but
> > here are the details:
>
> > I own a 58cm Rambouillet that fits beautifully. My PBH is 82.5, but I
> > am over 6' tall, so I am more sensitive than most to top tube length.
> > easily, but not theAtlantis. Had I noticed that the 56cmAtlantishad
Mojo
Nov 10, 2009, 2:21:44 PM11/10/09
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See, I should just keep my big mouth shut ;~}
Still wish it fit me
Still wish it fit me
Patrick in VT
Nov 10, 2009, 3:19:16 PM11/10/09
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On Nov 10, 9:57 am, newenglandbike <matthiasbe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> When you say you cannot straddle it easily, do you mean that your
> 'crotch bone' (*bone* being the operative word) prevents you from
> having both feet on the ground (with shoes on)? Because unless that
> is the issue, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Even if that
> *were* the issue, I wouldn't worry too much about it. In actual
> riding, rarely, IF EVER, do you need to straddle your top tube with
> both feet flat on the ground.
that notion gets tossed around a lot - and i agree for the most part
> When you say you cannot straddle it easily, do you mean that your
> 'crotch bone' (*bone* being the operative word) prevents you from
> having both feet on the ground (with shoes on)? Because unless that
> is the issue, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Even if that
> *were* the issue, I wouldn't worry too much about it. In actual
> riding, rarely, IF EVER, do you need to straddle your top tube with
> both feet flat on the ground.
- but it shouldn't be thrown out there as some universal truth. it's
nice to have more generous standover clearance when dealing with a
heavily loaded touring bike; it's also nice to have some standover
clearance when you're doing real rough-stuff riding and have to make a
quick or emergency dismount; and it's also nice to have some standover
clearance when you do a lot of stop-and-go commuting.
newenglandbike
Nov 10, 2009, 5:41:55 PM11/10/09
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> that notion gets tossed around a lot - and i agree for the most part
> - but it shouldn't be thrown out there as some universal truth. it's
> nice to have more generous standover clearance when dealing with a
> heavily loaded touring bike; it's also nice to have some standover
> clearance when you're doing real rough-stuff riding and have to make a
> quick or emergency dismount; and it's also nice to have some standover
> clearance when you do a lot of stop-and-go commuting.
We'll have to agree to disagree on that fine point. I don't think
> - but it shouldn't be thrown out there as some universal truth. it's
> nice to have more generous standover clearance when dealing with a
> heavily loaded touring bike; it's also nice to have some standover
> clearance when you're doing real rough-stuff riding and have to make a
> quick or emergency dismount; and it's also nice to have some standover
> clearance when you do a lot of stop-and-go commuting.
of the notion I offered as 'tossed around'. I think folks who have
tried Rivendell's sizing principles/notions tend to realize that
however 'nice' having standover clearance is for all those purposes
you list, it's *way* nicer to have a bike that is comfortable to ride,
and furthermore, an inch or two of standover clearance is not missed
at all in any of the aforementioned situations.
I'm not saying we should be moving towards this:
http://antiques.lovetoknow.com/images/Antiques/thumb/5/58/Bicycle_1900.jpg/300px-Bicycle_1900.jpg
or any of these:
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s83/hillbillygrin/bikestuff/bike1.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s83/hillbillygrin/bikestuff/xmastoy_wideweb__470x3930.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s83/hillbillygrin/bikestuff/fry3.jpg
But it sometimes is helpful to remember that normal can be relative,
and necessity can be misunderstood.
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RoadieRyan
Nov 11, 2009, 1:10:16 AM11/11/09
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MM
As far as the circus thing, I am with ya brotha. I am 5' 11" with a
30 inch inseam and a PBH around 83mm so I don't really fit the "norm"
either when I
read generalizations around what should fit a 6 footer. I recently
purchased a modest Steel frameset (Handsome Devil) and wavered between
the "go big"
with a 58 cm or be conservative with a 55cm Frame. Fortunately the 55
had a relatively long tt (57) so I went with it added a healthy
amount of
spacers to the steerer tube and have been a happy Camper.
Hope you find a comfortable "city hauler" that won't attract the wrong
elements when you leave out in public
Roadie"aren't your legs a bit short for a 6 footer?"Ryan
On Nov 10, 2:41 pm, newenglandbike <matthiasbe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > that notion gets tossed around a lot - and i agree for the most part
> > - but it shouldn't be thrown out there as some universal truth. it's
> > nice to have more generous standover clearance when dealing with a
> > heavily loaded touring bike; it's also nice to have some standover
> > clearance when you're doing real rough-stuff riding and have to make a
> > quick or emergency dismount; and it's also nice to have some standover
> > clearance when you do a lot of stop-and-go commuting.
>
> We'll have to agree to disagree on that fine point. I don't think
> of the notion I offered as 'tossed around'. I think folks who have
> tried Rivendell's sizing principles/notions tend to realize that
> however 'nice' having standover clearance is for all those purposes
> you list, it's *way* nicer to have a bike that is comfortable to ride,
> and furthermore, an inch or two of standover clearance is not missed
> at all in any of the aforementioned situations.
>
> I'm not saying we should be moving towards this:
>
> http://antiques.lovetoknow.com/images/Antiques/thumb/5/58/Bicycle_190...
>
> or any of these:
>
> http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s83/hillbillygrin/bikestuff/bike1.jpghttp://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s83/hillbillygrin/bikestuff/xmasto...http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s83/hillbillygrin/bikestuff/fry3.jpg
As far as the circus thing, I am with ya brotha. I am 5' 11" with a
30 inch inseam and a PBH around 83mm so I don't really fit the "norm"
either when I
read generalizations around what should fit a 6 footer. I recently
purchased a modest Steel frameset (Handsome Devil) and wavered between
the "go big"
with a 58 cm or be conservative with a 55cm Frame. Fortunately the 55
had a relatively long tt (57) so I went with it added a healthy
amount of
spacers to the steerer tube and have been a happy Camper.
Hope you find a comfortable "city hauler" that won't attract the wrong
elements when you leave out in public
Roadie"aren't your legs a bit short for a 6 footer?"Ryan
On Nov 10, 2:41 pm, newenglandbike <matthiasbe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > that notion gets tossed around a lot - and i agree for the most part
> > - but it shouldn't be thrown out there as some universal truth. it's
> > nice to have more generous standover clearance when dealing with a
> > heavily loaded touring bike; it's also nice to have some standover
> > clearance when you're doing real rough-stuff riding and have to make a
> > quick or emergency dismount; and it's also nice to have some standover
> > clearance when you do a lot of stop-and-go commuting.
>
> We'll have to agree to disagree on that fine point. I don't think
> of the notion I offered as 'tossed around'. I think folks who have
> tried Rivendell's sizing principles/notions tend to realize that
> however 'nice' having standover clearance is for all those purposes
> you list, it's *way* nicer to have a bike that is comfortable to ride,
> and furthermore, an inch or two of standover clearance is not missed
> at all in any of the aforementioned situations.
>
> I'm not saying we should be moving towards this:
>
>
> or any of these:
>
> http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s83/hillbillygrin/bikestuff/bike1.jpghttp://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s83/hillbillygrin/bikestuff/xmasto...http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s83/hillbillygrin/bikestuff/fry3.jpg
>
> But it sometimes is helpful to remember that normal can be relative,
> and necessity can be misunderstood.
>
> On Nov 10, 3:19 pm, Patrick in VT <psh...@drm.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 10, 9:57 am, newenglandbike <matthiasbe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > When you say you cannot straddle it easily, do you mean that your
> > > 'crotch bone' (*bone* being the operative word) prevents you from
> > > having both feet on the ground (with shoes on)? Because unless that
> > > is the issue, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Even if that
> > > *were* the issue, I wouldn't worry too much about it. In actual
> > > riding, rarely, IF EVER, do you need to straddle your top tube with
> > > both feet flat on the ground.
>
> > that notion gets tossed around a lot - and i agree for the most part
> > - but it shouldn't be thrown out there as some universal truth. it's
> > nice to have more generous standover clearance when dealing with a
> > heavily loaded touring bike; it's also nice to have some standover
> > clearance when you're doing real rough-stuff riding and have to make a
> > quick or emergency dismount; and it's also nice to have some standover
> > clearance when you do a lot of stop-and-go commuting.- Hide quoted text -
> But it sometimes is helpful to remember that normal can be relative,
> and necessity can be misunderstood.
>
> On Nov 10, 3:19 pm, Patrick in VT <psh...@drm.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 10, 9:57 am, newenglandbike <matthiasbe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > When you say you cannot straddle it easily, do you mean that your
> > > 'crotch bone' (*bone* being the operative word) prevents you from
> > > having both feet on the ground (with shoes on)? Because unless that
> > > is the issue, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Even if that
> > > *were* the issue, I wouldn't worry too much about it. In actual
> > > riding, rarely, IF EVER, do you need to straddle your top tube with
> > > both feet flat on the ground.
>
> > that notion gets tossed around a lot - and i agree for the most part
> > - but it shouldn't be thrown out there as some universal truth. it's
> > nice to have more generous standover clearance when dealing with a
> > heavily loaded touring bike; it's also nice to have some standover
> > clearance when you're doing real rough-stuff riding and have to make a
> > quick or emergency dismount; and it's also nice to have some standover
Surf
Nov 11, 2009, 1:24:53 PM11/11/09
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Hey, Nice Pashley Guvnor! http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s83/hillbillygrin/bikestuff/xmasto...
Surf
Eric Norris
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newenglandbike
Nov 11, 2009, 2:52:10 PM11/11/09
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Here's the link again:
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s83/hillbillygrin/bikestuff/xmastoy_wideweb__470x3930.jpg
The kid looks psyched!*
*not really
On Nov 11, 2:47 pm, Eric Norris <campyonly...@me.com> wrote:
> Link doesn't work ...
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http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s83/hillbillygrin/bikestuff/xmastoy_wideweb__470x3930.jpg
The kid looks psyched!*
*not really
On Nov 11, 2:47 pm, Eric Norris <campyonly...@me.com> wrote:
> Link doesn't work ...
>
> --Eric Norris
> Sent via iPhone
Rene Sterental
Nov 11, 2009, 11:06:52 PM11/11/09
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I don't see any brakes on that bike... how did they stop it?
René
Ray Shine
Nov 11, 2009, 11:56:24 PM11/11/09
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| Probably a fixed gear -- stopped the old fashion way, thigh muscle brakes! --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Rene Sterental <orth...@gmail.com> wrote: |
Ray Shine
Nov 12, 2009, 12:01:34 AM11/12/09
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| Also interesting to note the frame on the bike behind him. Double top tube! Wow! How old is Grant Peterson? --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Ray Shine <r.s...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: |
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