Re: WTB: 64cm Rambouillet

[Leslie]

Mid-fork eyelets came about later;  I could be wrong, but I'd expect that all of the ones that came with them would be green.   I don't think the orange or the blue had them.

Not that I have a 64, but, if you had a choice between orange w/o eyelets, versus green with eyelets, which would you pick, all else being equal?



On Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:36:31 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote:

Hey Y'alls,

 

I'm looking for a 64cm Ram frameset.

 

Colour-wise, I'd prefer orange, blue, green, in order of preference. Of course, that's only if you have one each for me to choose from ...

 

Extra fantastic would be one with those mid-fork eyelets for a rack. 

 

Let me know if you are thinking of offering yours up!

 

Peace,

 

Kieran in Toronto, Canada 

[James Warren]

Midfork eyelets on the Ram are a rare gem. They existed as stock features only at the very very end of the Ram's run. I'm pretty sure that not even all the stock green ones had them. Maybe just the very last batch, released when Grant had already posted that there would only be one more batch.

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[Dave]

I bought one of the last Rams, which is green, of course.  No mid-fork eyelets.

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[clyde canter]

I have a green Ram in 64 size.  It didn't come with any mid-fork eyelets. 

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Kieran J <kjo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey Y'alls,

 

I'm looking for a 64cm Ram frameset.

 

Colour-wise, I'd prefer orange, blue, green, in order of preference. Of course, that's only if you have one each for me to choose from ...

 

Extra fantastic would be one with those mid-fork eyelets for a rack. 

 

Let me know if you are thinking of offering yours up!

 

Peace,

 

Kieran in Toronto, Canada 

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[clyde canter]

Oops, hit send too soon.  If I were looking, like you are ,I'd go for one the early orange ones if I had the choice.  Not that the green ones are inferior, but I believe (could be mistaken) that the earliest ones had a tad more tire clearance.  So much so that some of the "new at the time" Shimano dual pivot brakes in that reach had to be filed slightly at the bottom of the slot to get the pads low enough and out of the tire.  IMO a good thing if only slightly so.
Best,
Clyde

[Steve Palincsar]

On Sat, 2012-07-28 at 16:21 -0400, clyde canter wrote:
> Oops, hit send too soon. If I were looking, like you are ,I'd go for
> one the early orange ones if I had the choice. Not that the green
> ones are inferior, but I believe (could be mistaken) that the earliest
> ones had a tad more tire clearance. So much so that some of the "new
> at the time" Shimano dual pivot brakes in that reach had to be filed
> slightly at the bottom of the slot to get the pads low enough and out
> of the tire. IMO a good thing if only slightly so.

I remember that situation. "More tire clearance" is not how I'd
characterize it.

The Rambouillets were designed to maximize tire clearance with the
then-newly released long reach Shimano dual pivots by specifying the
location for the brake bridge in back that would have the pads exactly
at the bottom of the slot. That's great if everything is perfectly
located, and acceptable if the bridge is 1 or 2 mm low; not so great if
the bridge is 1 or 2 mm high, which was the case with I believe one
batch of frames and one size of frame. Hence the need to file the slot.

There might be 2 reasons to prefer an early orange frame over all
others: the lugs were fancier early on and became simpler to make
production easier; and of course, the orange color. I had a very early
orange one. The orange was very pretty. It was also impossible to
touch up scratches so that it matched.

[clyde canter]

To each his own "opinion"

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[Philip Williamson]

Green vs Orange, mid-fork eyelets vs none...
I dont like the look of the Quickbeam fork eyelets, and I prefer orange bikes to green, so that's an easy one!

Philip
Biketinker.com

[James Warren]

Oh well, 0 for 2 on green ones in the field having mini-rack eyelets. So I'm probably wrong in thinking that they were stock in the last batch. However, I do remember someone posting a photo of a new one that was made in the late green period, and it had Hilsenish lugs and mini-rack eyelets. Maybe the buyer of that particular frame paid extra to have the eyelets added and then got custom paint that happened to be green.

In any event, it looked great and screamed function.

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[Kieran J]

I just missed out on a green one that list member Bogester had for
sale recently. Too slow on the draw. I didn't have the eyelets, IIRC.

Leslie, good question. I would probably opt for the braze-ons. It can
always be repainted. Nothing wrong with the green, it's just that I
already have a green LHT :^S

On Jul 28, 2:37 pm, Dave <dfal...@charter.net> wrote:
> I bought one of the last Rams, which is green, of course.  No mid-fork
> eyelets.
>
> On 7/28/2012 11:14 AM, James Warren wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Midfork eyelets on the Ram are a rare gem. They existed as stock
> > features only at the very very end of the Ram's run. I'm pretty sure
> > that not even all the stock green ones had them. Maybe just the very
> > last batch, released when Grant had already posted that there would
> > only be one more batch.
>
> > Sent from my iPhone
>

> > On Jul 28, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Leslie <leslie.bri...@gmail.com

> > <mailto:leslie.bri...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> >> Mid-fork eyelets came about later;  I could be wrong, but I'd expect
> >> that all of the ones that came with them would be green.   I don't
> >> think the orange or the blue had them.
>
> >> Not that I have a 64, but, if you had a choice between orange w/o
> >> eyelets, versus green with eyelets, which would you pick, all else
> >> being equal?
>
> >> On Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:36:31 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote:
>
> >>     Hey Y'alls,
> >>     I'm looking for a 64cm Ram frameset.
> >>     Colour-wise, I'd prefer orange, blue, green, in order of
> >>     preference. Of course, that's only if you have one each for me to
> >>     choose from ...
> >>     Extra fantastic would be one with those mid-fork eyelets for a rack.
> >>     Let me know if you are thinking of offering yours up!
> >>     Peace,
> >>     Kieran in Toronto, Canada
>
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