Granola-Moose Bar?

[George Schick]

I got an email from VO today introducing a new product - the "Granola-Moose Bar."  Now, VO has always seemed to me to keep in semi-lock step with Riv and in this case I'd call it a variant of the Nitto Choco-Moose bar that they (used to?) sell.  The three differences I notice (maybe 3 1/2) are: the VO offering is in 1 1/8" threadless instead of a welded-in quill stem, it has a "cross bar" between the two curved handles with a slightly flattened section to allow for the mounting of lights, etc., it's available in both black and chrome, oh and it's about 2/3 the price that the Riv/Nitto version is/was.

Laying all of that aside for the moment, what opinion do any of you all have about the Nitto bar that Riv offered if you have one?  I'm thinking of buying one of the VO versions to replace the "cow horn" bar that I currently have installed on my Surly 1x1 because 1) it has a threadless steerer and the Nitto won't/wouldn't work and 2) it comes in a black version and everything else on my headset, current threadless stem, and bars is black and I'd like to keep it that way.  BUT, and this is an item that I'd really like some feedback about, both of these bars, i.e. from either company, have a fixed, unadjustable angle because they're welded to the stem (or threadless clamp).  Has that lack of adjustment bar angle capability been a problem for any of the Choco-Moose users out there?

[Joe Bernard]

This is extremely subjective and it matters a lot what the headtube angle is on the frame the bar is going on, but I had a ChocoMoose for a while (Cheviot? I think it was on a Cheviot) and the angle seemed fine to me. 

If it matters at all to you the Granola-Moose has a lot more flare/splaying-out than Choco. 

Joe Bernard 

[Conway Bennett]

I like the idea of moose bars but I don't like it them in practice.  I like my wrists in a neutral position, and with a moose bar that is not a given.  Plus, once you realize this, they are relatively expensive to ship to a new owner.

[J Imler]

I’ve got the choco-moose on my Appaloosa.  The fit is as close to perfect at I think one could hope for, at least what I could hope for. I  just saw the restock of the Losco and considered a swap, but then I rethink it, and why?  

I also have the Bosco-moose in 58 sizing. Haven’t found the frame for those yet but I’m thinking one day I’ll be glad I held on to them.

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 3:34:44 PM UTC-8 George Schick wrote:

[James M]

I have Choco-Moose bars on my Hunqapillar and I love them.  I previously had Ron's Ortho bars and with the big sweep back they wouldn't stay put when riding trails.  The Choco-Moose are rock solid and feel great.  Just lucky, I guess, that the rise and angle worked so well for me.

[Richard Rose]

My exact experience also. I really wanted to like my Boscomoose. But the fixed angle did not work for me. That VO bar is pretty though…

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On Nov 18, 2022, at 7:11 PM, Conway Bennett <captaincon...@gmail.com> wrote:

I like the idea of moose bars but I don't like it them in practice.  I like my wrists in a neutral position, and with a moose bar that is not a given.  Plus, once you realize this, they are relatively expensive to ship to a new owner.

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[lconley]

The wonderful thing about steel, is that it can be bent, within reason, with a little "persuasion". Not as easily as loosening a clamp, but it can be done, and once set it never slips. All you need is a good vice, some wood to protect the finish, a long lever, and the serenity to accept that you might screw things up.

Laing

Who has broken a lot of things over the years

[George Schick]

Indeed.  I once reset the rear dropout width on a frame using a long 2x4; a string tied to one of the dropouts, wound around the head tube, and tied to the opposite dropout; and a caliper.  Worked just fine.

[Conway Bennett]

These bars remind me of the Rawland "Antler?" Bars.

[Richard Rose]

True enough. But at the end of the day I preferred my regular Bosco / FacePlater combo.

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On Nov 19, 2022, at 10:03 AM, lconley <lco...@brph.com> wrote:

The wonderful thing about steel, is that it can be bent, within reason, with a little "persuasion". Not as easily as loosening a clamp, but it can be done, and once set it never slips. All you need is a good vice, some wood to protect the finish, a long lever, and the serenity to accept that you might screw things up.

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[Brian Turner]

I think the bends in these look a bit awkward, TBH. 

On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Richard Rose <rmro...@gmail.com> wrote:

True enough. But at the end of the day I preferred my regular Bosco / FacePlater combo.

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