Sam Hillborne EU

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K AL

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Nov 12, 2025, 12:09:28 PM (2 days ago) Nov 12
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Hi all,

Looking for a Sam in Europe. Frame size: I'm 5' 8" with a saddle height of about 72cm (so PBH in 83cm region.) Would also consider a Homer, or even an older Atlantis (we can but dream, huh.) Hell, almost anything Riv in the EU would be good :D  

Just sold my Clem 59 on, which I'd owned for just two years, as sadly I'd come to accept that it just felt too big for me. Don't want to be Riv-less for too long though... 

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John Johnson

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Nov 12, 2025, 12:44:38 PM (2 days ago) Nov 12
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Both Sams and Homers are up for presale on the Lachouetteparis.com site.
Great shop, great guys, but a frame'll set you back 2300 European fun tickets.

Where are you located? 

John
(Fellow European clem owner)

Batwing

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Nov 12, 2025, 1:34:34 PM (2 days ago) Nov 12
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I was lucky enough to visit La Chouette in Paris last month.  

I was impressed.  Indeed, great staff, amazing shop.  They did have a couple full builds that they were selling.  A few frames in stock.  

If I was in the EU, I would give them my business.

Yours,

Ryan, Stateside 

K AL

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Nov 12, 2025, 1:46:38 PM (2 days ago) Nov 12
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Hi John & Ryan,

Cheers for the info. Greetings from Finland. Yes, purchased from the Owl guys in Paris in the past :) Been keeping tabs on the presale at Riv but not convinced with this year's colours* enough to go the new frameset route again so soon after the Clem (ouch!) Built up a lovely vintage Raleigh Competition over the summer as a 650b conversion, hoping it'd work as a kind of substitute-Sam. Lovely on day rides, less so fully loaded (1" top tube etc will do that.) 

So, even though it's a long shot hoping to find a Sam or similar here in the EU. And preferably just a frameset (as I've parts left over from the Clem!) 

* The Sam 'Sage' looks light blue in a lot of the pics, rather than the greyish/green I was hoping it'd be.

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Cheers and Happy Clem-ing :) 

Brian Turner

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Nov 12, 2025, 1:59:28 PM (2 days ago) Nov 12
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Your measurements are exactly the same as mine, all around. I picked up one of the recent Sams from the pre-order in a 54cm. Best of luck on your search!

Brian
Lexington KY

K AL

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Nov 12, 2025, 2:08:46 PM (2 days ago) Nov 12
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Hi Brian - Thanks and enjoy your Sam when it arrives! Which colour did you go for?

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Nov 12, 2025, 2:18:21 PM (2 days ago) Nov 12
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Have you checked this Sam in Portugal?

Brian Turner

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Nov 12, 2025, 2:36:30 PM (2 days ago) Nov 12
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K AL

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Nov 12, 2025, 2:37:39 PM (2 days ago) Nov 12
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Thanks. Indeed I have and it's a beautiful build. Exchanged a few messages with the owner who's understandably keener to sell as a complete bike at the moment. Also I'm not 100% if it'd work size-wise, which is obviously a great concern after my Clem. However, I found an old Riv catalogue from the period which states that it would be suitable for someone who's 5' 8" My feeling is that it might work built up with sweptback bars,...maybe. After all, the standover needn't be an issue when the bike would be primarily used as a tourer. 
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K AL

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Nov 12, 2025, 2:44:19 PM (2 days ago) Nov 12
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Nice! Has a pretty cool 70s vibe huh - My main concern would be whether one could carry off my orange (or rather 'rust') bags! And I don't mean 'carry' as in haul ;) 

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Feliks Ulvåen Isaksen

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Nov 13, 2025, 7:15:59 AM (yesterday) Nov 13
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Hey!

My old 60cm Sam in bronzey green (crazy nice colour) is for sale from its current owner here in Norway (although outside EU technically)


I think he's selling it as a full build, but if you're interested in the bike I would try to message him about doing a deal on the frameset.  

K AL

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Nov 13, 2025, 12:19:11 PM (yesterday) Nov 13
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Takk Feliks! 

That's a lovely looking Sam in a great colour but sadly at 60cm would be way too big for me. Hope your friend finds a buyer - who knows, perhaps someone on here? 

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