FS big nitto front rack 34F

[Tom Horton]

used this rack lightly for a few years on my atlantis; now enamored of wald baskets and not going back.

it's in perfect shape,   asking 125 bucks plus shipping. if you are in the baltimore washington area perhaps I could arrange a drop off.

you can see the exact rack on riv's website.

and still trying to unload my new, in box, 700c schwalbe g one speeds 60mm   make an offer. they retail for about 80 apiece I think.

the rack has a couple custom made, bolt on doohickeys that made it fit easier on my 68cm atlantis...you won't need 'em for anything smaller, but included.

[Tom Wyland]

OK, so I have to ask.... what's your current setup to support the basket?  

[tom horton]

I have a smaller front rack mounted beneath the basket, which is zip tied to it. has worked fine with fairly robust loads on week to three week trips, nothing off road other than gravel trails. It’s a nitto rack, a marks rack maybe.

[Tom Wyland]

Thanks, Tom.  I have the same rando rack + basket setup and was thinking about changing to a setup that allowed basket + front panniers.

Regardless, this seems like a good price for this Nitto big front rack.

[tom horton]

re loading the atlantis in front, I found years ago that mine, maybe because it’s a big frame/68, shimmied with heavily loaded panniers in front…you can exhaust yourself trying to find why bikes shimmy. I did two things: replaced the original headset with a needle bearing one riv sells and that helped; also put a velo orange front wheel stabilizer on, which doesn’t really help with shimmy, but with wheel flop when the front wheel’s loaded.

at any rate I don’t overload the front of my atlantis, and the basket alone, with a big sackville saddlesack in back, carries all I need. maybe not if I did fully loaded touring though.

and the f34’s still for sale.

[John McBurney]

I think Rivs are long trail bikes and do best rear loaded. At least that’s what my Bombadil tells me. On the other hand my Salsa Casaroll started life as a mid trail bike but has been converted to a low trail (38 mm mechanical trail) with a Soma LT touring fork and it hates a rear load but does well with a front load. 

I looked for trail figures for the Bombadil online but could not find them so I won’t put out a number since I’m not sure. 

I enjoy the way both handle but they are different beasts. Sort of like plowing with mules versus horses at least that’s what my grandpa said. 

John 

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[tom horton]

yeah john, I follow with fascination the jan heine inspired low trail vs high trail debates…seems it comes down to how you want to roll, many satisfied people in both camps and everywhere in between. boatbuilders have similar debates over what would seem minute differences to the uninitiated. tom

[John McBurney]

I have the big Nitto Campee front and rear on the Bombadil. Very nice rack at a great price. 

John

On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 11:18 AM tom horton <swan...@gmail.com> wrote:

yeah john, I follow with fascination the jan heine inspired low trail vs high trail debates…seems it comes down to how you want to roll, many satisfied people in both camps and everywhere in between. boatbuilders have similar debates over what would seem minute differences to the uninitiated.   tom

[tom horton]

that’s a beautiful, heavy duty bicycle, nice!

[John McBurney]

Hoping to do some multi day bike trekking through the blue Ridge on it this summer. Maybe the Appalachian Gravel Growler this fall 

Very lucky to have it come to me. I’ve got a lot of bikes. It’s rapidly becoming my favorite. 

John 

On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 2:06 PM tom horton <swan...@gmail.com> wrote:

that’s a beautiful, heavy duty bicycle, nice!

[tom horton]

I did the blue ridge parkway, front royal to n.c. several years ago, the paved road. it was pretty darn hilly, but gorgeous…there was/is a good guidebook to cycling the parkway. sounds as if offroad stuff has come together in recent years. good travels

[John McBurney]

http://www.bikepacking.com/routes/appalachian-gravel-growler/

On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 8:57 PM tom horton <swan...@gmail.com> wrote:

I did the blue ridge parkway, front royal to n.c. several years ago, the paved road. it was pretty darn hilly, but gorgeous…there was/is a good guidebook to cycling the parkway.  sounds as if offroad stuff has come together in recent years.   good travels

[John Bokman]

Tom, could you tell me what kind of panniers you used with this rack?

Looking at the triangulation of the rack, I"m wondering if those added supports might prevent me from mounting my Lone Peak panniers. I can't adjust the hooks, unlike an ortlieb or some such. 

Do you know if this rack was designed to be used with Riv panniers?

Thanks. I like to use a heavy front load on my 32F, and am thinking it's not so prudent. I also use panniers, so this rack might make sense, if it can accept my panniers.

[John McBurney]

Any advice on panniers for the big Nitto racks would be appreciate. I have a bunch but have found fit to be a issue with some. 

John 

[DarinM]

I have happily used Carradice Super C front panniers on my 34F. If I remember correctly, one of the hooks locked into the triangulated section in the front of the rack.

Darin

[Craig Montgomery]

Primarily I use Carradice Super C fronts. I've used Karrimors which you probably won't find. Have a wonderful set of Beckman's but you won't find those either unless you're lucky. Jandd Mountain and Standard front panniers. The Mountain panniers are small. The Standards are pretty big but sloppy if you don't fill them.  You really gotta stuff 'em. The Super C's are a wee bit small too, larger than the Jandd's MTB's I believe. Your choice of panniers depend on what and how you pack your bike and where you're going and how long you'll be out. With gargantuan racks like these I'm assuming you're doing a 50/50 or 40/60 distribution. Oh yea I've also used Ostrich. They are strapped on not hooked but in coolness they can't be beat.  

Super C's mounted:

     https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/43049824851

Jandd MTB front panniers mounted: 

     https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/29460145875

Standard Jandd fronts on the Riv AR on the right and old style Carradice fronts on the Riv AR on the left. Both racks 34F's: 

     https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/17343692521

Some full sized rear Karrimors used on a 34F: 

     https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/16055961218

Craig in Tucson

[Friend]

I can't believe this rack is still available!  It seems like a steal.

[Tom Horton]

John  all i ever used were ortleibs panniers  i have a set of smaller ortleibs and larger ones

Both mounted fine on the nitto front rack

Not sure the triangles will get in yr way  a pretty big rack  be glad to measure it if you want

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[john Bokman]

Thanks Tom. I don’t think measuring is necessary.. And thanks to Craig for all the fantastic pictures!

I’m surprised the Rim website claims the 34F to be recommended for no more than 30# loads. I know they are being conservative, but still…If you look at t similar looking rack, like Surly’s big Front rack, it claims to hold 70# - which I’d not want to carry!

One attribute the 34F has going for it, in my opinion, is the nice big platform on which to strap things. I really appreciate the ability to lash something to the top while still being able to carry bags down below.

I think I remember that the tubing used for the 34F is 9mm thick? Did you have to shim the hooks on your panniers  to make them snug? My panniers have hooks for either 8mm or 10mm rails.

[Tom Horton]

Don t recall shimming  my ortleibs rode pretty rattle free and never jumped off

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[Rocky B]

Hi Tom - I will take the rack if it’s still available :-)

Rocky

[Joe Bernard]

FINALLY. I was about to buy it just cuz it's cool, then hope I find a bike for it someday!