Sellers, post your full emails

[Joe Bernard]

Ok I'm not the moderator of this here joint but the FS posts are killing me. Google Groups is different and weird and stupid now and most of us can't send PMs to sellers. The trick is to put your email in the post without @s and dots like such: joeremi62 gmail com. Otherwise your FS post is going to be an endless thread of people saying they PMed you maybe not sure. Good luck! 👍

[Ryan M.]

Good call, Joe. It's true, I can't find a way to email a user when on the new google groups on the laptop. When using the iphone I can't even reply to a thread...the option doesn't even exist. 

[dougP]

"Reply to author" is shown in gray scale.  Maybe it'll become functional once again?

dougP

[Ray]

This is not ideal, but I've found that a work around is to revert your Groups to the old style (click Settings > Return to classic Google Groups) allows you to send private messages to posters. If you prefer the style of the new Groups, you can change it back by clicking the "View New Groups" button in the upper left when you're finished sending the PM.

Still, it's a good idea to include an email in your post--makes things easier for everyone.

Thanks,

Ray

[Dave S]

Being that we can still see it (but not use it), I'm wondering if the reply to author is a setting that the moderator has to re-activate in the settings for the "new" groups.

I've reverted back to old for now and can still use it on desktop.

Dave

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Thanks for bringing this up, Joe - 

There is no discrete setting for me to allow this. I've flipped back and forth between new/old google groups and cannot replicate the condition on my MacOS system using Google Chrome.

Would one of you mind sending me a screen capture (a true screen capture - not a photo of your monitor) when the "greyed out" Reply to Sender option appears?

Email to cyclofiend overat gmail

Another variable would be whether or not you have permission to post to the group, but since people are posting on the topic without having to be approved by me, I'm assuming that's not an issue. 

I have heard some issues for folks on Android (which is odd, since it's Google's OS...but there are large number of Android flavors...)

Will poke around a bit - for those you who experience this, look for "report a bug with new groups" option and send to the googlers... 

- J

[dougP]

When switching from the new version to Classic, a box pops up asking why you want to do so.  I made a list of my concerns & sent it to them.  If enough of us do that, perhaps it will change their minds. 

My specific concerns are that in the new version, groups with new posts are not indicated; in Classic they are bolded, making it easy to select which group to review.

In Classic, "mark all as read" is a top line button; in new it's behind 3 dots.

In Classic, within a group, new posts are bolded; new version it's not clear to me if there's any difference between new & old posts.

And of course the lack of or non-functionality of the "reply privately to author" function that is so useful in Classic. 

Just for fun, I asked them "What problem are you trying to solve?".  Probably a question they haven't considered.  OTH, hopefully if they get enough pushback they'll rethink this change.

dougP

[Cyclofiend Jim]

As a quick follow up - I've received several screen shots which have me covered. Thanks!

Have send a request/bug report/trouble ticket thingy and will hopefully have some understanding of the issue.

Probably some nested setting lodged under an innocuous arrow or three-dot-link.

Thank you again.

- Jim / list admin

[Cyclofiend Jim]

As a follow up to my follow up:

- I've confirmed that "Reply to author" was authorized in the group settings.

But in doing so, did notice that "Reply to author" is open only to group members (set that way on purpose).

I'm wondering if those of you who have experienced issues with this may have been logged out of the group - in other words, viewing it from another email/google ID which is not recognized as the member ID.

Since a few of you have had trouble only in mobile, I'm curious if that's a vector. 

Can you confirm that you are actually logged into the group when this is not functioning?

Again - thanks.

- J

[Garth]

 

   Yep, I'm logged in Jim.  I can switch between the classic and new group formats at will. I use Firefox desktop only w/Linux Mint. I just tried it with Chrome also, no go there too. Classic view I can reply to author, new view I cannot, as I showed in the photo I sent you. In fact, I could not have even got to that point unless I was logged in. I've reported it google so many times I lost count, so I do wonder if such reports are even read.  I do find it a bit comical though, having permission to not have permission !

[Eric Norris]

To All:

Taking a quick break from my work-at-home activities to express a bit of puzzlement. I’ve been on this list for years, and for years I’ve seen messages about people who try to respond to the person who posted a message but couldn’t for some reason. I *think* this is all based on issues in the online version of Google Groups, right?

You all know that you can get all of this stuff sent to you in you email inbox, yes? You get an email that is the same as the post on Google Groups, which comes with the email of the sender/poster in it. Then you use your email program to compose a message back. Quick and easy. I’ve done it this way since … forever.

Am I missing something? Are these people philosophically averse to using email? You don’t *have* email? You only want to interact with the RBW Group online? 

Sorry, just had to get that off my chest. It’s just that the same problem comes up over and over and over again, and the solution is so easy.

OK, back to work for me. 

--Eric Norris
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[Erik Wright]

I just don't want my inbox blown up with every response to every thread, even if it's filtered to a separate RBW Bunch folder or something like that. I enjoy the interface of clicking through threads as I please in addition to reading threads in a descending order and having the thread confined to one space- things come across clearer to me that way, rather than sorta getting my emails mixed up / out of order. In fact one of the first things I did when I joined the group was turn off email notifications entirely, other than PMs.

It's not a huge deal, and if Google Groups stuff doesn't get sorted then maybe I will move to emails, I just also read emails all damn day at work and appreciate the respite. Not the end of the world, I just prefer the web interface. That said, maybe I just don't use email filters correctly.

Erik, Philly

[Joe Bernard]

What Erik said, I tried the email version for a short while years ago and hated it. What's going to happen is if the web version becomes impossible to work with, I'll just not be on Google Groups anymore. 

[Eric Norris]

I have my personal emails in a window in a monitor separate from where most of my “work” happens. I glance over once in a while to see if anything looks interesting.

As I recall, you can opt to receive one email a day or one per week(?) Downside there is you’ll miss that sweet deal that somebody offered.

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[Garth]

I too like Erik in Philly have all email notifications off except personal messages. What I view I view here online, I have no interest in bunches of emails.

For clarity, when I reply here on this topic , it is available for all members to see here on this publicly viewed website and for member that accepts group messages to their personal inbox. When I wish to reply to a single member , for whatever the reason, it is with the intent of a one-on-one personal conversation, not a public/group conversation. No other member is involved. 

[Joe Bernard]

Yes, I interact with this group the way Garth does..been that way from the beginning at bikelist . org and internet-bob since 2000. Now I can't even post on my Android, I have to use a tablet and that one won't send PMs. If they want me outta here completely, we're almost there. 

Joe "just about had it" Bernard 

[J L]

This IS a topic that comes up frequently and it has me looking at my own use case. I am an email exclusive user and here are some thoughts on why that is.

I came to this group as an extension of another group that used to function as a listserv. I have just kept up with that email to post format.

I use a mail client, a program that collects and sorts my email from multiple email addresses. To read and send email I launch the program and do what I need to do. That is to say I do not get email by directing a web browser to www.yahoo or www.gmail or whatever. I imagine that if I did read email on a web browser there are only a few more steps to access google groups (with a gmail address), as I do not, it seems like very many steps.

I have more than one email address. I bet I have more than a score of email addresses. Not only does my mail client sort mail in many ways, I also have several accounts that I can interact with or ignore as I see fit. I can imagine a few reasons that others may not want multiple addresses (even work and personal) and there is some learning and time involved in setting up a mail client.

IMHO the culture of this list is one of active discussion topics. A topic typically lasts a few days to a few weeks. Others have expressed an interest in search and browse functions when framing google groups as a forum. I check the group emails every few days and read or share my opinion. If I miss a topic I don’t mind so much because it is likely the group has moved on so to speak. I can certainly imagine someone new to the group being excited about old and new topics equally. A forum style interface allows for access to that that wider array of posts.

Jason

[dougP]

"Can you confirm that you are actually logged into the group when this is not functioning?"

Yes.

dougP

[Mike Packard]

Hi Jim

I found another setting in the advance list settings: "Who can view member email addresses"

I did some playing around on my test list and it looks like this setting also has to be set to "List members" in order for me to be able to reply privately (from a non-list-manager) account.

Mike