FS: Paul Minimoto Brakes $225

[Ben Adrian]

Paul Minimoto Silver Set. Non-polished. Two brakes. One bike's worth.

These stop so well, but the setup and cable pull is just a little fiddly for me.

$225 shipped in the US.

Thanks!
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Also, looking for a the following:

9 speed RD that can handle a 36t rear cassette.

Rim brake wheelset that isn't too race-oriented, but also not too overbuilt, and has tubeless potential.

Cheers!

Ben in L.A.

[Ben Adrian]

Sold!

Thanks.

Ben

[Steven Seelig]

Mine are the black version.  They work great and I did find that once dialed in, which did take some time, they were great with a nice linear response.  However, can't use them on my Platy with 45mm tires AND SKS fenders.  Well, I can, but then the fenders bend every time I brake.

Same price for the pair - $225 shipped in US.

[P W]

Do we think these might clear 48s without fenders then, or a bridge too far?

P. W.

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On Jan 15, 2024, at 8:26 AM, 'Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Mine are the black version.  They work great and I did find that once dialed in, which did take some time, they were great with a nice linear response.  However, can't use them on my Platy with 45mm tires AND SKS fenders.  Well, I can, but then the fenders bend every time I brake.

Same price for the pair - $225 shipped in US.

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[Steven Seelig]

I feel like yes.  The issue for them was that they grabbed the outer sides of the fenders, which were several centimeters higher than the tires themselves.  But some 48s may be really 48s with knobbier and some may be closer to 45s.  My experience was with 45 plus fenders and the fenders needed to bend in because the higher part of the arms hit them.

Others may be able to weigh in.

[Johnny Alien]

Based on my experience with mini-v brakes and knowing the specs of the mini-motos I would say a heavy MAYBE on 48's. Without seeing it for sure I would probably put a max on 45's. I am actually pretty shocked to hear that 45's with fenders made it even with the pinching.

[Steve]

Here's what the man has to say about fender clearances for several of his brakes, including the Motolites and  Minimotos---      (I happened .to watch this one when II was considering brakes for my Platypus. Wound up going with Deore Vs but they might turn out to be a placeholder for Motolites)

https://www.paulcomp.com/videos/https://www.paulcomp.com/videos/

Is this what's called "hijacking the thread"?  Well, never mind.....

[Patrick Moore]

Steve or anyone else who had the patience to sit through the entire 7 minutes+: what did he say was the fattest tire alone, or fattest tire + fender combo? 

I skimmed thru it but couldn't find the right spot. (Conversation is more direct than text -- you can tell your interlocutor to shut up with the irrelevancies and get to the point -- but text is a hellofalot faster than video, esp when the refresh rates are not instant, if you don't want to sit thru plodding step by step instructions. Nothing against step by step but I just want max width. Over and out.)

Patrick "why is video so slow?" Moore

On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 8:11 PM Steve <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:

Here's what the man has to say about fender clearances for several of his brakes, including the Motolites and  Minimotos---      (I happened .to watch this one when II was considering brakes for my Platypus. Wound up going with Deore Vs but they might turn out to be a placeholder for Motolites)

https://www.paulcomp.com/videos/https://www.paulcomp.com/videos/

On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 4:33:07 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

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[Patrick Moore]

Forgot to add that that tire looked like a 50 at least. Would that mean that Minmotos could handle a 42 + 50 mm fender? I asked this before and consensus was no, but it was a very small consensus, and the Minimotos greatly appeal since you can use standard drop bar levers.

[Cal Patterson]

I've got a minimoto on the front wheel of my quickbeam, and it fits a RH 700x48 knobby (oracle ridge)

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, Cal, that's helpful.

All: the RH site estimates 47 mm for the OR on a 21 m IW rim. I've got Naches Passes (at 41.5 mm) under VO 50 mm fenders with ~ 1.25 mm of clearance over the tires. 

Does anyone know if this more or less equals in vertical and horizontal extension a 47 m tire?

[Steve]

 Patrick, this reference lists the Minimoto as having an 83mm arm length. Compare that to the length of your current brakes.  

https://gravelbikearchive.wordpress.com/2014/06/20/v-brake-arm-lengths/. 

[Patrick Moore]

This is the information I was looking for; many thanks.

Nope, won't fit; at least 15 mm too short. Too bad. But the Paul cantis work alright.

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[Steven Seelig]

I love that this become a worthwhile discussion about whether these darn great brakes would fit on your particular bike.  I used these for several years on my decidedly non-riv Specialized cross bike that was my 20 mile round trip commuter.  They worked so much better than the stock specialized Cantilevers  on a 32mm fendered bike.

They are now sold.

[Patrick Moore]

If I weren't so attached to Shimano aero levers, particularly the old pre-STI Dura Ace ones, I'd use Paul Motolites.

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