Frame schedule 2021

[Sky Coulter]

Hugh - i don’t onow how reliable it is, but will had a pic in one of the updates last year w the frame schedule.

Sky in new west

[Hugh Smitham]

Thanks Brother! Have since picked up a lightly used 2018 Atlantis.

Hugh

[Chris Birkenmaier]

What is the Charlie model?

[Ben Mihovk]

This schedule makes me very glad I went ahead and got my Atlantis last August/Sept. I still REALLY want a Homer at some point, but that's going to be years off. And even then...now that I have a bike with V-brakes, I don't know that I want one with side-pull again. And really...I do think that anything I want to do on a Homer/Sam I can do on my Atlantis.

I'm still excited for frame releases even if I'm not buying. It's just fun when ANYTHING goes up on the Riv website. :) 

On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 6:11:29 AM UTC-6 Mark Roland wrote:

Somebody without a name but with a dog face wrote: What is the Charlie model?

May I suggest you try putting the word Charlie in ye olde search box at the top of the page.  Good stuff. (Has that old meme actually come true after all these years? Alas, no. I did a search box search and it's Chris.)

[Paul Richardson]

did anyone see when the Roadunos are expected?

thanks

paul

takoma park, md.

[Joe Bernard]

My recollection is the Charlie Gallop is a new road bike along the lines of the Roadini but with a swoopy toptube like Gus/Susie. I don't think this list gets enough traffic to be demanding that people use the search function for a question like this, it takes just as long to say that as to answer the question. 

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Joe, thank you for coming to my defense in asking about the Charlie model!  Much appreciated!

Mark- not sure why you needed to respond in an acerbic way to my question but you got several things wrong.  Although I’m a longtime member I am a “Christine “ therefore not a “he”.  The cute dog is my Golden Retriever, who by total coincidence is named Charlie.  I go by Chris so that is my true name and I’m not hiding behind an avatar.

We like to have discussions on this forum in a friendly manner.  Were you a frequent poster on Lovely Bicycle per chance?

On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 4:28:04 PM UTC-5 Mark Roland wrote:

Not sure how you turn "May I suggest" into demanding someone do anything. Not sure what the amount of traffic has to do with it. In any case, he is a regular member. Why not teach him to fish instead of expecting others to rehash for him?. All the info currently out there is available by typing one word.

[Joe Bernard]

Hi Chris! 

I just tried the vaunted search function and honestly it was a mess, there's a whole lot more speculative chatter about this bike than actual knowledge. Here's what I scooped up out of the morass from one person's post:

At Riv HQ today Grant said something like, “roadies v-braked complete bike in similar style to Susie. Likely with the upcoming Riv made v-brakes, tig welds. We’ll see.”

Joe "that's all I know" Bernard

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Appreciate that Joe!  I have a Roadini and a mountain Mixte so I’m not sure I can justify another Riv.  But the Hilly bikes have grown on me and it’s always fun to see what Grant comes out with

[Joe Bernard]

"Hilly bikes grown on me" is funny to me because I wasn't all that enamored with them at first. Then I bought one! 😂

Check out my Instagram @rideymcbiker for more pics if you're interested. 

[Mark Roland]

Now back to V-brake canti?

On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 11:55:39 PM UTC-5 Mark Roland wrote:

Chris: Re: Lovely Bicycle, occasional, but not a regular. She was a very good writer and photographer, and had some interesting takes on the world of bicycles. Now she's in Ireland with a family and a yarn knitting business.

I was not suggesting that you were hiding anything, but speaking of friendly manners, if your name does not appear at the top of your post, it is good manners to sign at the bottom. As I explained,  I found out who you were by...putting your email remnant into the "search" box. Going through, I found some of your posts signed "Chris" and mistakenly assumed male. (Though my odds were high for being correct based on overall members; at least those who participate.) I don't know what else I got wrong. I made no attempt to guess your dog's name!;^)

Not to belabor the point, but I wrote: May I suggest you try putting the word Charlie in ye olde search box at the top of the page.  Good stuff."  Again, I don't find  "May I suggest" to be rude or unfriendly.  To answer your question with any accuracy, I suspect most who wanted to respond would have to do that or something similar.  For those of you who may not read the Blahg, GP has been on a self-recognized "ye olde" kick for some time, so it was a mild attempt to insert some inside humor. As was the reference to the old Nobody knows you are a dog on the internet.

Rivendell has a habit of not using permalinks for their web pages. So every time they revamp or rearrange, pages get lost. It's a Riv style road bike that can take drop bars well, wider tires than Roadini, has the swoop tube found on the Susie/Gus bikes. Started out canti, now sidepull (to the dismay of some, but plenty of canti.v-brake Rivs to choose from.

[John M]

Charlie Gallop prototype pictured in orange.  

[David Person]

Hey Hugh, hope you are doing well.  I saw a video that Russ had on his PLP YouTube channel where you were riding a Bantam.  New bike for you since we last did our one ride together in last 2015.

David Person in Thousand Oaks

On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 10:45:55 AM UTC-8 cbirk...@gmail.com wrote:

Mark it’s really not worth my effort but my FULL NAME appears next to my dog avatar.  Can you not see it?  I can see it and I can read your full name next to your non-photo blue blob head avatar.  Other than slapping my knuckles on not doing a search, I’m confused why you had to do a Google search to investigate who I am.  I have very good manners but don’t feel as though I need to have my full name on posts at the top AND  then also add the name Chris again at the bottom.  All I can guess is  whatever format you are viewing doesn’t display it and you are saying I don’t have a name.   Please move on from being concerned about my full name and whether or not I’m a man. Check around, there are a lot of female Chris’ out there.

Chris Birkenmaier 

On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 11:55:39 PM UTC-5 Mark Roland wrote:

Chris: Re: Lovely Bicycle, occasional, but not a regular. She was a very good writer and photographer, and had some interesting takes on the world of bicycles. Now she's in Ireland with a family and a yarn knitting business.

I was not suggesting that you were hiding anything, but speaking of friendly manners, if your name does not appear at the top of your post, it is good manners to sign at the bottom. As I explained,  I found out who you were by...putting your email remnant into the "search" box. Going through, I found some of your posts signed "Chris" and mistakenly assumed male. (Though my odds were high for being correct based on overall members; at least those who participate.) I don't know what else I got wrong. I made no attempt to guess your dog's name!;^)

Not to belabor the point, but I wrote: May I suggest you try putting the word Charlie in ye olde search box at the top of the page.  Good stuff."  Again, I don't find  "May I suggest" to be rude or unfriendly.  To answer your question with any accuracy, I suspect most who wanted to respond would have to do that or something similar.  For those of you who may not read the Blahg, GP has been on a self-recognized "ye olde" kick for some time, so it was a mild attempt to insert some inside humor. As was the reference to the old Nobody knows you are a dog on the internet.

Rivendell has a habit of not using permalinks for their web pages. So every time they revamp or rearrange, pages get lost. It's a Riv style road bike that can take drop bars well, wider tires than Roadini, has the swoop tube found on the Susie/Gus bikes. Started out canti, now sidepull (to the dismay of some, but plenty of canti.v-brake Rivs to choose from.

On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 9:09:52 PM UTC-5 cbirk...@gmail.com wrote:

[Hugh Smitham]

Hi David,

I remember you Sir. Beautiful black and cream Hillborne if memory serves me. Yes I have a semi-custom Bantam and I was on that ride with Russ and Laura. It was an interesting ride because it was nearly the last ride I did in 2020. I developed a nagging IT band issue. After that ride I was in excruciating pain so any rides I do are pretty sedate and short at the moment. Good to hear from you Mr.Person in Thousand Oaks. 

Best Regards,

Hugh

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[Hugh Smitham]

Chris,

Just my opinion we all know what they're like and such. I don't think the tenor of his original post was all that bad. I originally thought you both knew each other well and it was just an inside joke. My second thought was why point out something so trivial. I mean look what it's created all these back and forth emails of discontent. I kinda wanted to be mad at him for it. But I can't be. I can see how on the interwebs suggestions like this can be frustrating and seemingly demeaning, He really didn't need to go into the dog face name thing. TBH, the suggestion actually worked for me. I haven't been very active on this group for a while and the new format is maddening. So Mark I appreciate it the nudge.

Last thoughts, (I am paraphrasing here) I remember Jim I believe a long time ago once saying, think long and hard before you post something, consider how it might come across? This is especially true when you can't see a person's face or hear their voice inflection. And may I respectfully suggest to Mark using this very sage advice from our very own moderator.

This group has afforded me some of the best friends I have ever made in my long life. I consider it a gem. There will no doubt be those that rub me the wrong way as I probably do to others, perhaps this very email response has irritated someone (s) just know that's not my intention...

Hugh

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, 10:46 AM Chris Birkenmaier <cbirk...@gmail.com> wrote:

Mark it’s really not worth my effort but my FULL NAME appears next to my dog avatar.  Can you not see it?  I can see it and I can read your full name next to your non-photo blue blob head avatar.  Other than slapping my knuckles on not doing a search, I’m confused why you had to do a Google search to investigate who I am.  I have very good manners but don’t feel as though I need to have my full name on posts at the top AND  then also add the name Chris again at the bottom.  All I can guess is  whatever format you are viewing doesn’t display it and you are saying I don’t have a name.   Please move on from being concerned about my full name and whether or not I’m a man. Check around, there are a lot of female Chris’ out there.

Chris Birkenmaier 

On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 11:55:39 PM UTC-5 Mark Roland wrote:

Chris: Re: Lovely Bicycle, occasional, but not a regular. She was a very good writer and photographer, and had some interesting takes on the world of bicycles. Now she's in Ireland with a family and a yarn knitting business.

I was not suggesting that you were hiding anything, but speaking of friendly manners, if your name does not appear at the top of your post, it is good manners to sign at the bottom. As I explained,  I found out who you were by...putting your email remnant into the "search" box. Going through, I found some of your posts signed "Chris" and mistakenly assumed male. (Though my odds were high for being correct based on overall members; at least those who participate.) I don't know what else I got wrong. I made no attempt to guess your dog's name!;^)

Not to belabor the point, but I wrote: May I suggest you try putting the word Charlie in ye olde search box at the top of the page.  Good stuff."  Again, I don't find  "May I suggest" to be rude or unfriendly.  To answer your question with any accuracy, I suspect most who wanted to respond would have to do that or something similar.  For those of you who may not read the Blahg, GP has been on a self-recognized "ye olde" kick for some time, so it was a mild attempt to insert some inside humor. As was the reference to the old Nobody knows you are a dog on the internet.

Rivendell has a habit of not using permalinks for their web pages. So every time they revamp or rearrange, pages get lost. It's a Riv style road bike that can take drop bars well, wider tires than Roadini, has the swoop tube found on the Susie/Gus bikes. Started out canti, now sidepull (to the dismay of some, but plenty of canti.v-brake Rivs to choose from.

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[ericyue...@gmail.com]

I've found this group to be a source of tons of useful information but haven't had much to add as I've mainly been in a sort of pre-contemplative space about buying a Riv.  I don't know what happened, but once the Sam pre-orders got announced and I realized I wouldn't be able to get one again for over a year some sort of panic set in and I started thinking seriously about it.  I emailed Riv early last week and asked about the cost for a full build, got a quick reply, and then started doing some financial plotting.    Wednesday at noon came and went, but it wasn't until I was a couple IPAs deep that evening that I finally pulled the trigger on 60 Sam.  I'm very excited for the whole process as well as all the different types of rides it'll enable me to do. (I've historically been a "go fast" urban rider, but I'm now splitting time between the city of San Francisco and the Peninsula south of it, so I'm stoked to get a bike that'll be appropriate for all the terrain I encounter and can take a load)  I look forward to contributing more as everything starts to happen.  

Eric

[Hugh Smitham]

Eric,

That's awesome. I like how first panic set in and to mitigate that panic you started working out the numbers. I think you're going to love the Sam.

Hugh

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[ericyue...@gmail.com]

Thanks, Hugh; I appreciate the encouragement!