What's your biggest tire on AH Hilsen?

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Sean Cleary

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Jun 15, 2022, 10:17:21 PM6/15/22
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Since its arrival in 2011, my Hilsen has had soooo many personalities in the way of bars, stems, saddles, shifters, racks and tires. Oh, and bags...lots and lots of bags! Great to have bikes with such flexibility...

Latest idea is to make it more rail trail-specific, requiring the largest tire I can fit. What's the largest tire you've enjoyed using and what rim (width) are you running?  

How many are using brakes other than Tektro?

jamin orrall

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Jun 15, 2022, 11:34:30 PM6/15/22
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Curious about this as well... I have a 2011 waterford homer.  I purchased it complete off a list member here and then rebuilt it with parts I had been saving.  Running 38mm panaracer pasela tires on 700c mavic open pro rims (Not recommended, I know).  There is plenty of room for fenders but looking at the clearance at the chainstays I wouldn't push it much much more (definitely not on these rims).  Could maybe fit a 40mm tire.  I will say that I think fire roads are a blast on a 38mm tire.   I will also say that this is the most comfortable bike I have ever owned.

Jamin

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Patrick Moore

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Jun 16, 2022, 10:25:33 AM6/16/22
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Just a remark about 38 mm tires on Open Pro rims. If you worry that
38s are too wide for those rims, fear not; I rode 50s on 19 mm rims
(OW) for thousands of miles on rough dirt tracks with absolutely no
problem; and I presently ride 71 mm tires on 24 mm (OW) rims on dirt
tracks (tubeless tires, non-tubeless rims, lotsa tape,13 psi,
sealant); again, no problem. I think that Mavic states a 28 m max
width for one of two reasons: remote liability concerns, or optimum
tire cross-section profile.

And I see that Mavic offers the Open Pro in the 650C/571 bead seat
diameter size; who'd 'a thunk?

Patrick Moore, whose 41 mm Naches Passes have the perfect
cross-section profile on Sun Ringle EQ 21s (21 mm OW).
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Sean Cleary

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Jun 16, 2022, 10:32:32 AM6/16/22
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Jamin, that's the best color I seen for our frame! Glad you like the comfort and ride. Mine has transformed into this gravel/roadie centered around, gasp...brifters! Heavily contemplating selling before refashioning (again) into flat bars and thumb shifters for social rides. Running Panaracer Gravel King slick 35mm and still own 40mm Schwalbe Marathons Supremes that are a great size, just a tad slower on pavement.
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Sean Cleary

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Jun 16, 2022, 10:59:12 AM6/16/22
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Thank you Patrick (!) as a big concern is exceeding my Velocity Dyad 25-38mm limits with proposed 43-45mm tire. Don't want that wallowing-off-the-rim feel I sometimes get on my very low pressure mountain bike tires. But your experience is verrrry enlightening. Velocity told me to NOT attempt to make rims tubeless either but fascinated with you, effectively, throwing that caution into the wind as well! After all, didn't tubless-ness originate on non-tubeless rims?? 

Ken Yokanovich

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Jun 16, 2022, 11:24:21 AM6/16/22
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Offering up a counter-opinion here. Precautionary word that your results may vary considerably based on brake wear and sidewall thickness.  I experienced sidewall failures on Mavic Open Sport, Mavic T217, and Velocity Dyad rims on my old Rivendell Quickbeam (RIP) on which I regularly used 35-40mm tires.  Admittedly, I was commuting year round with lots of MN winter slop.  Lots of hard abusive miles had me replacing brake pads 2-3 times/year and seemed like rims annually? I believe that the combination of wear and outward force of wide tires caused cracking in the sidewall and failures. 

The Velocity Dyad failures were less detectable:
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scott minor

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Jun 17, 2022, 9:12:24 AM6/17/22
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I have been riding RH 700 x 44 Snoqualmie pass tires on my Waterford AHH for a couple years now when not running fenders..  (riding 700 x 38 with fenders).  The extra cush from the 44's is really nice for off-pavement, (prob worth noting I'm a bigger rider, 220 lbs on a 67cm frame) but I prefer 38mm tires when riding on the road, they are more connected on fast sweeping turns.  I had Dyads for years and now Pacenti Brevets which are tubeless, unlike the Dyads.  After reading about Ken's experience w Dyads I'm curious and will inspect my Dyads for cracking.. they are quite old and have the 'made in Australia' sticker on them still.  They have survived a long life of grit and dirt without incident.  

One thing I notice about these particular RH standard (not ultralight) 44mm tires on AHH is the rear fits with ample clearance when the tire is new but after a while will swell slightly with wear, reducing clearance but not to the point of rubbing the chain stays.  It does get close though.  A swap with the front tire at the point evens things back out.  

-Scott 
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