Favorite pedals?

[Tom Goodmann]

I notice that bikes new and used often come without saddles and pedals, and I have a pedal choice to make.  I've moved beyond clipless (carbon no mas!), though not necessarily beyond clips/straps or Power Grips; riding "naked" feels funny after so many years of being at least in clips & straps, but of course worth trying. Otherwise I don't know enough to make discriminating choices; the MKS Sylvans on my XO-1, for instance, feel fine to me.  Some of your current favorites?  --Tom

[Steve Palincsar]

SPDs. I like the PDM 959 and the PDM 747. I use step-on pedals on my
shopper, but I wouldn't consider them for any ride longer than 4 or 5
miles. Too much hassle keeping my feet from slipping off or heels
hitting the chain stays because I'm not placed on the pedal correctly.

[Bruce Herbitter]

The Gimli Axe heads, err Grip Kings (http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/pe1.htm) are my favorite for comfort. For brisker riding, I like the MKS Touring Lite or GR-9 (which really do better with a clip or a power grip strap).  

On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Tom Goodmann <tgoo...@gmail.com> wrote:

I notice that bikes new and used often come without saddles and pedals, and I have a pedal choice to make.  I've moved beyond clipless (carbon no mas!), though not necessarily beyond clips/straps or Power Grips; riding "naked" feels funny after so many years of being at least in clips & straps, but of course worth trying. Otherwise I don't know enough to make discriminating choices; the MKS Sylvans on my XO-1, for instance, feel fine to me.  Some of your current favorites?  --Tom

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[Ron Mc]

Me too.  Love my grip kings.  For awhile I was swapping between sylvans with clips and the grip kings.  In comparison, the rat trap.clip loads all through the ball of your foot.  The longer grip kings use your entire foot - heel to ball, and it changes your riding position, or at least gives you options to move your foot around a bit on the pedal - it's a bit like changing positions on the bar.  

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Current favorites are the VP Vice and VP-001. The latter is marketed by RBW as the Thin Gripsters.

[Joe Bernard]

The MKS RMX Riv sells. They're almost too inexpensive to be taken seriously as "real pedals", but I have them on all my bikes. They work.

[PATRICK MOORE]

Steve: what are the differences (in feel, performance, durability) between, say, the M540 and the 959 and 747? I take it that these last are the XTR and XT versions?

Some time ago I had the 959 of the period, but can't say I remember any difference over, say, my very early '90s 540s.

For the record, I too prefer SPDs, the real Shimano ones: currently installed are old Dura Ace spds and the old 540s I mentoned. Also, Looks -- Keo Pluses, model no longer made.

SPDs.  I like the PDM 959 and the PDM 747.  I use step-on pedals on my
shopper, but I wouldn't consider them for any ride longer than 4 or 5
miles.  Too much hassle keeping my feet from slipping off or heels
hitting the chain stays because I'm not placed on the pedal correctly.

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[Bruce Gordon]

Thought I’d chime in with my favorite pedals and clips.

I think that the White Industries Urban Platform Pedals with Bruce Gordon Stainless Strapless Toe Clips are the best combination I have ever used for street shoes.

http://brucegordoncycles.bigcartel.com/product/white-industries-pedals-with-stainless-strapless-clips

When going on more serious rides I prefer SPD’s

 

Regards,

Bruce Gordon

www.bgcycles.com

http://brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com/

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[Allingham II, Thomas J]

+1 on the Thin Gripsters (VP-001), which I have on 3 bikes.  If you need some kind of connection to the pedal, my favorite is a combination of the White Industries Urban Pedal with the King Cage “Foot Cage”, here:

The “Foot Cages” are absurdly comfortable, and though they look a little unconventional, I think they kind of complement the vaguely French Art deco look of the White Urban pedals.  (Obviously not pictured in the image above.)

 

But my all-time favorite pedal is the Hillbubba-modified Grip King, here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8176183506/in/photostream

 

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Current favorites are the VP Vice and VP-001. The latter is marketed by RBW as the Thin Gripsters.

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[Ron Mc]

no wonder, those are gorgeous - the much higher end version of the MKS GR-9 and strapless clips I put on my daughter's bike.  

[Brewster Fong]

I'm with Steve on this one. When I use step on pedal, my feet side around too much. Now, the ones I used where the MKS sylvan. Maybe something like a MKS bmx pedal might be better, but others will have to chime in on those.

 

My favorite pedals that I have on both of my road bike is the Speedplay Frogs. Easy in and out, double-sided and light. I found them used for as low as $25 (although cleats can be pricey at $30-35).  I think pedals and saddles are those personal items that fall into the "what works for me, may not work for you" category. Good Luck!

[Matthew J]

Concur with Bruce Gordon!

 

I have White and the Bruce Gordon Strapless.  I use the regular fit clip in nice weather and boot fit during the winter.  Sublime.

 

[Michael]

MKS Touring. Wide enough to support my whole foot. I have used them with toe clips (no straps) and they keep my foot in place fine.
Lately I have been using no toe clips. Just bare pedal. So far, so good.

I have stopped using clipless because I like wearing normal shoes to ride.

[Tom Goodmann]

Thanks to all for the fine suggestions; I'm most likely to stay clipless, though am now aware of the wide rider support for SPDs.  It''ll be good to try out some options (and Grip Kings are coming on one of those already built Sams on sale; I had already ordered the frame on sale, and just went ahead last week and bought the built bike, including a few nice extras: GKs, a B17, kickstand, so all ready to roll).  

Bruce, those Urban Platforms are truly beautiful pedals, and I really like the elegantly simple strapless cages.  

[Mike]

VP Gripsters without a doubt. No need for straps and comfortable over the long haul. Work well with Sambas.

[Ron Mc]

Tom, I wear Merrells when I ride my grip kings - the soles bite like steel cleats, even in the wet.  

[Jay B]

The VP-001 (Thin Gripsters) are my favorite.  I had been using Grip Kings on most of my bikes, but the VP's are taking over.  I am even trying a set on my Karate Monkey right now.  After riding clipless for 20 years on my mountain bikes, it took a few rides to get used to, but the VP's haven't slowed me down or decreased my fun on any trails so far.  

-Jay B. 

[Dan Abelson]

I just put the vp vice pedals on a bike and like them a lot.

Dan Abelson
St. Paul, MN

On Apr 12, 2013 9:26 AM, "Tom Goodmann" <tgoo...@gmail.com> wrote:

I notice that bikes new and used often come without saddles and pedals, and I have a pedal choice to make.  I've moved beyond clipless (carbon no mas!), though not necessarily beyond clips/straps or Power Grips; riding "naked" feels funny after so many years of being at least in clips & straps, but of course worth trying. Otherwise I don't know enough to make discriminating choices; the MKS Sylvans on my XO-1, for instance, feel fine to me.  Some of your current favorites?  --Tom

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[Bryan]

I've tired all sorts of platform pedals, and my favorite are the RMX Sneaker pedals. They have just the right amount of grip, and they're the perfect width and length. They don't work for me in the rain, though. For rainy riding, I use BMX pedals with pins, but those are too grippy for me otherwise. I like to be able to move my feet around a little bit. I also rode with toe clips for years, but not lately. I've never ridden clipless. 

Bryan 

[René Sterental]

DMR Vault platform pedals. The first pedal ever to not cause foot pain. Riding then on Keen Coronado Cruiser sneakers that have a more rigid sole. 

No pain, lots of gains!

René 

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On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Bryan <bwed...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I've tired all sorts of platform pedals, and my favorite are the RMX Sneaker pedals. They have just the right amount of grip, and they're the perfect width and length. They don't work for me in the rain, though. For rainy riding, I use BMX pedals with pins, but those are too grippy for me otherwise. I like to be able to move my feet around a little bit. I also rode with toe clips for years, but not lately. I've never ridden clipless. 

Bryan 

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[Eric Platt]

Yet another VP thin gripster devotee. Have them on my Hillborne and LHT.  Second place for the MKS sneaker pedals.  Which are on my SimpleOne. 

 

May try MKS sneakers on the Hillborne this summer when wearing the thinner Keen sandals.  Have a spare pair lying around.

 

Eric Platt

St. Paul, MN

[David Sprunger]

If you have bigger feet, you might like the MKS Custom Nuevo Wide as seen here:

http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=13313

or here, with some XL Bruce Gordon clips:

http://www.cord.edu/faculty/sprunger/bikes/riv1334/pedal2.jpg

I tried the Whites, but they felt small under my size 13 shoes.

David Sprunger

Fargo, ND

On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Tom Goodmann <tgoo...@gmail.com> wrote:

I notice that bikes new and used often come without saddles and pedals, and I have a pedal choice to make.  I've moved beyond clipless (carbon no mas!), though not necessarily beyond clips/straps or Power Grips; riding "naked" feels funny after so many years of being at least in clips & straps, but of course worth trying. Otherwise I don't know enough to make discriminating choices; the MKS Sylvans on my XO-1, for instance, feel fine to me.  Some of your current favorites?  --Tom

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[Philip Williamson]

I like the VP-001 pedals with grip tape. I only did one side of each pedal, since it's kind of a chore. I like to be able to micro-adjust my foot position, but it still has mega-grip. I used to have (make) pedal deck platforms that snapped into clipless pedals, but I prefer just having the flat pedals and no cliplessness at all. 

Philip

www.biketinker.com

[iamkeith]

I wish I'd seen this earlier, and I could have saved Bruce from having to shamelessly self-promote. :-)

 

The BG half-clips are awesome, and definitely my favorite-ever solution, for most riding.  I now have two pair, and will slowly upgrade more of my bikes as I can.  After a decade and a half or so of exclusively using clipless, I'm finally over it too.  Mostly because I find that I ride twice as much when I don't have to go through some silly ritual of finding my shoes or having to remember to bring them everywhere I bring my bike.  But, even though I know Grant says I shouldn't pedal in a full circle, lifting your foot is a hard habit to break when you've done it for so long.  The BG's are perfect - easier to enter than toe clips, more versatile - to fit whatever shoes you happen to be wearing without adjusting, still secure enough to keep you from sliding off on bumpy descents and, most important, strong enough to "lift" up on. 

 

Here are a couple of pics.  The ones on the MKS sylvans are the "boot" size and, FYI, are really a bit too tall - even with the keens that they are designed around, and which is what I actually happen to wear. The others, which I just got and installed last week, are the "normal" ones, and fit better.  Notice that these are on the new MKS urban platform pedal - a cheaper knock off of the Lyotard Berthot 23 than the White Industries, which - though nice - are out of my budget.   Sylvans feel better on my extra-wide feet, but best with a more rigid sole.   Platforms are nice for soft shoes, but do feel narrow.  Locating the cage all the way to the outside of the adjustment slots is imperative.

 

Also, though other strapless half-clips are available, I wouldn't waste my time.  I broke some of the plastic ones, which are way too small for size 11 feet, before I discoverd these.  And the stamped stainless ones bend too much to "lift" with.

[Matt Beebe]

I used to like BMX pedals or the MKS sylvans, but I have rubber block pedals on all my bikes now because they don't tear up my shoes, which often times have leather soles (moccasins).      My current fav is the wellgo LU-868 pedal.

[Matthew J]

One more thing about Bruce Gordon's Half Clips: Bruce modestly describes them as city bike hardware. I find them well suited to multi-day touring. They keep your feet in place yet allow modest shifts during the long haul which I anyway find helps prevent my feet getting sore.

[Eric Daume]

I'm currently using either BMX pedals (with spikes) (on mostly road and town bikes) or Time clip less (on my mountain bikes or fixed gear)

I found the Grip Kings very slippery.  Someday I'll add the pins to mine.

Eric Daume
Dublin OH

On Apr 12, 2013 10:26 AM, "Tom Goodmann" <tgoo...@gmail.com> wrote:

I notice that bikes new and used often come without saddles and pedals, and I have a pedal choice to make.  I've moved beyond clipless (carbon no mas!), though not necessarily beyond clips/straps or Power Grips; riding "naked" feels funny after so many years of being at least in clips & straps, but of course worth trying. Otherwise I don't know enough to make discriminating choices; the MKS Sylvans on my XO-1, for instance, feel fine to me.  Some of your current favorites?  --Tom

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[PATRICK MOORE]

Back when I used clips and straps I liked the MKS GR-9 platforms (for more casual riding in boat/moccasin-type shoes) and the MKS touring pedals (for more grip).

The MKS top o' line track pedals (Keirin approved!!) were also very nice but I found them too narrow for the bunion on my right foot, at least with straight up-and-down TA Cyclotourist crank arms.

My brother loves old mtb pedals from the '80s and very early '90s and old BMX pedals.

Now it's Shimano ("accept no substitute") spds and Looks.

[Tom Goodmann]

The "shoe" side of SPDs offers a nice platform, and the dual-use design is appealing; plus, the darn things just look good.  I don't know whether I'll clip in again any time soon, all the same. The MKS touring pedals are classics, I agree; weirdly (I admit), I've been looking at MKS folding pedals (FD-7), which also offer a nice, flat platform at more or less the weight of a Grip King. I'm riding the latter right now on my new Hillborne, and love 'em.

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[ascpgh]

Those old '91 MB-0 OEM  Superbe Pro track-caged XC Comps with the grey Specialized cages and grey MKS straps?

Andy Cheatham

PIttsburgh