LF Single Speed Frame

[Bones]

The Wabi I've been commuting on is perfect in spirit but it's just too small. If anyone has a frame for sale (i.e. 62-64 Quickbeam, Simpleone ~ whatever for 80cm saddle height), I'd be interested. Similarly, if anyone can point to something else that might fit the bill, I'd appreciate it. The forthcoming Roaduno looks like it would be perfect, but I'm not sure I can hold out that long. I've got lots of single speed stuff and my commute is short and flat so I'd really like to stick with a SS frame.

Thanks!

Bones

[Bill Lindsay]

It appears there are still large size Crust Florida Man framesets in stock.  I run one of those as my 'commuter' in flattish Wayne County Michigan, where I travel for work several times a year.  Last month I did a fixed 200k on it with Detroit Randonneurs.  I love the bike.  I run the Large-58 with my 75.5cm SH.  

Bill Lindsay

El Cerrito, CA

[Bones]

But then I'll need to find a new Pizza bike! Wait, does this mean I have too many bikes!?

Bones

[Bones]

Oh and Bill I'd love to see your Florida Man!

Bones

[Eric Daume]

Hi Bones,

I have two framesets for sale that might fit the bill (but they wouldn't fit Bill). I rode a 64cm QB and these fit in that ballpark, though the Windsor has a shorter top tube.

- Windsor/Fuji Toursist, has short horizontal dropouts that are good for hitting one single speed gear, 64cm, $150 for the f/f/hs/brakes:

- '79 Trek 710, 65cm, long horizontal dropouts give you room to make a manual change multi-single speed, if that makes sense. $175 OBO for f/f/hs/brakes again:

Both are + Shipbikes shipping (unless you live near Ohio), and I have more details and pictures here:

https://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-for-sale-post.html

Eric

Plain City, OH

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[Mackenzy Albright]

if you have a bit of patience and feel like being creative you could just get a custom made - https://www.marinobike.com/product/custom-gravel-fixed-cyclocross-frame/

I had them build me a track drop out fixed gear mountain bike taking all my favorite things from my favorite bikes ( crust evasion clearance and geo, original surly 1x1 inspired QR dropouts and no braze ons for anything because its a silly minimal mountain bike, jack taylor rough stuff elevated seat stays.) They did a fantastic job with great customer service. it was cheaper (with shipping) than I could in Canada from any company.

[Erik Wright]

I ride a Kilo WT as a fixed fendered and basketed city bike. Using Tektro 559s it fits a 50mm tire without fenders, and I run 38mm + fenders. Looks like the 62cm Ocean Blue is in stock here on Bikesdirect. I have the 59cm with a 75cm saddle height.

Erik, Philly

[Max S]

62 cm SimpleOne in Coleman green here… thinking of passing this on, as I’ve got 3 other fixies. 🙀👻

Let me know if that’s of interest. 

- Max 

[Patrick Moore]

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 3:28 PM Mackenzy Albright <mackenzy...@gmail.com> wrote:

if you have a bit of patience and feel like being creative you could just get a custom made - https://www.marinobike.com/product/custom-gravel-fixed-cyclocross-frame/

MacKenzy: Are you familiar with Marino? Are they legit, and is the website and price list up to date? I ask because this jumped out at me:

Description: A full custom geometry TIG welded frame starts at  US$280. Building time frame: 14 weeks

Is that a typo, and should it be $2800? Or are these prices from 2005? I'd immediately guess "yes" except, look at the prices he quotes for worldwide frame shipping! $110 for 1, $150 for 2. 

Can you say? Anyone else?

He seems to offer frames for 700C X 3" wheels, and that's what I'm hoping to get in replacement for the Monocog so I can use the true 3" width of the WTB Rangers (currently at about 71 mm on the skinny 24 mm ED Alex rims).

Thanks.

[Eric Daume]

Marino is a legit builder. Based on my n=1 experience, expect to pay about $4-500 and wait 5-6 months to get it. 

But expect a more workmanlike burly frame, not a Jan Heine refined thin wall cruiser. They hit my geo right on, but even with relatively skinny tubing (for an mtb) my frame has kind of a heavy ride with a somewhat harsh rear end. Not a lot of compliance here. But at $400ish, I can’t complain. 

Eric 

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[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, Eric, that's very useful and very surprising, to me at any rate; $500?? Even for a stout frame with toothpaste welding beads. Their frames won't be any stouter than the Monocog or the Fargo steel or Krampus I've looked at, and since the whole point of the frame is to get something that can exploit the full 3" fatness of the Rangers at 12 or 13 psi, I expect that ride will suffer very little compared to thinner steel.

I'd be interested to hear of others who have dealt with Marino.

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 7:46 PM Eric Daume <eric...@gmail.com> wrote:

Marino is a legit builder. Based on my n=1 experience, expect to pay about $4-500 and wait 5-6 months to get it. 

But expect a more workmanlike burly frame, not a Jan Heine refined thin wall cruiser. They hit my geo right on, but even with relatively skinny tubing (for an mtb) my frame has kind of a heavy ride with a somewhat harsh rear end. Not a lot of compliance here. But at $400ish, I can’t complain. 

Eric 

On Friday, November 5, 2021, Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 3:28 PM Mackenzy Albright <mackenzy...@gmail.com> wrote:

if you have a bit of patience and feel like being creative you could just get a custom made - https://www.marinobike.com/product/custom-gravel-fixed-cyclocross-frame/

MacKenzy: Are you familiar with Marino? Are they legit, and is the website and price list up to date? I ask because this jumped out at me:

Description: A full custom geometry TIG welded frame starts at  US$280. Building time frame: 14 weeks

Is that a typo, and should it be $2800? Or are these prices from 2005? I'd immediately guess "yes" except, look at the prices he quotes for worldwide frame shipping! $110 for 1, $150 for 2. 

Can you say? Anyone else?

He seems to offer frames for 700C X 3" wheels, and that's what I'm hoping to get in replacement for the Monocog so I can use the true 3" width of the WTB Rangers (currently at about 71 mm on the skinny 24 mm ED Alex rims).

Thanks.

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[Bones]

Eric, thanks for the offer. Those look nice but not exactly what I'm looking for.

Mackenzy, awesome bike! Looks like a lot of fun, thanks for sharing.

Erik, good point about the Kilo WT. I actually have a few TT's in my attic collecting dust. Fun bikes but they've fallen out of favor for me lately.

Max, I'll drop you a line. A Simpleone is more along the lines of what I'm looking for.

Bones

[Jingy]

Max S, I'd be interested in your SimpleOne if Bones passes on it.

Jim In Mpls

[Bill Lindsay]

Here's a small flickr album from when I did the build a couple months back:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72157719573693918

Bill Lindsay

El Cerrito, CA

[Bones]

Looks great Bill, thanks! And update: I've found a frame. Thanks everyone for your help. If anyone is interested in my Wabi (58cm Thunder in Desert Turqouise), PM me.

Bones

[Mackenzy Albright]

MacKenzy: Are you familiar with Marino? Are they legit, and is the website and price list up to date? 

Like Eric said. They're legit. Their customer service is excellent, sometimes slow. They're a small company and they build one off batches for other companies such as enforcer (I also wouldn't be surprised if they built frames for bassi or some small batches of crust stuff like the florida man this is 200% speculative). Wait times are definitely a bit on the slower side 6 months is more accurate, they're very thorough with the design mockups before they begin the build - so generally id say a month of correspondence before it even moves into the build queue. I think for a frame and fork shipped to Canada was probably around 700cad (4-500usd seems about right for a frame) which is still cheaper than a surly frame here due to imports. I'd say it's for sure it's Surly quality. I know a few more people that are mid process and its going well getting slightly modified/personalized versions of unavailable frames. I think you can upgrade to nicer and lighter steels, but that wasn't really a concern on my part. 

[Patrick Moore]

Again, this is very good to know. I'll certainly archive this in my "possible framebuilders" file.

Many thanks.

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[Thomas McCause]

i'm looking for a 58 or 60 wabi, when you find your unicorn, let me know!

-Thomas

On Friday, November 5, 2021 at 9:21:32 AM UTC-6 Bones wrote:

[Bones]

Mission accomplished. Received the frame last week and just about finished building it this morning. I need to slap some fenders on and adjust the cockpit and then I should be good to go. There is definitely more tire clearance than I expected so I may look into that down the road, but these Shikoros (38mm) are tough and roll great so I am happy for now.

Bones

[Doug H.]

Looks great Bones. I really like that green.

Doug