Shopsack or Sugarloaf

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Davey Two Shoes

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May 30, 2017, 12:14:26 PM5/30/17
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Hello all!
I hope everyone had a great weekend of riding. I did!
I'm looking to bring my basket to a more organized place. The old bungie and random bag move is growing tired and I'm interested in either the Sackville Shopsack or the  Swift Sugarloaf for my medium wald. Plenty of glowing opinions on the Sackville but I haven't been able to find much on the Swift Sugarloaf. Anyone have any knowledge to drop on my head?
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Jeremy Tavan

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May 30, 2017, 12:21:36 PM5/30/17
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I have and love a waxed canvas Sugarloaf bag. It makes me sad that they no longer offer the waxed canvas option. It's an expensive little bag, but has a lot of good organization pockets on the inside - there's a lot more work that goes into making it than goes into a simple sack-type bag. It has a zipper pocket on one internal side, and a divided open-top flap pocket on the other internal side. I use it for my commute, and fit 1-2 (ultraportable, tiny) laptops, limited change of clothes, and all my electronic doodads in it. It's a tight fit, but it works, and the bag attaches to the basket easily and securely. When I need to haul more, I use a R.E.Load basket bag with its greater height and capacity.

Hope this helps,
/Jeremy

Shoji Takahashi

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May 30, 2017, 12:22:39 PM5/30/17
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Here's Cass Gilbert's review of the Sugarloaf:

I use Medium ShopSack for commuting; it works great. My only complaint is occasional water entry during heavy rains. (Solved that with a few plastic bags that're always in my bag to keep the contents dry, if necessary.) I use a cargo net to keep it in the basket. 

Good luck!
shoji

Broccoli Cog

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May 30, 2017, 1:05:40 PM5/30/17
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I own a Swift Sugarloaf and I love it! The best words that I would use to describe it are practical and useful. I use it primarily with my Sam in a Wald 137. It is designed to work hand in glove with this set up. I love it for its ability to hold my stuff and it's quick dismount when I want to carry its contents inside. It has handy pockets inside for bike tools etc. There is also a zipped outside front pocket and a magnetic flap pocket on the outside rear. I used it on one overnight camping trip and it was great for that as well. Aesthetically I may give the nod to canvas bags but if you are less concerned about using traditional materials and want a practical bag for daily use I would highly recommend the Sugarloaf

Jon BALER

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May 30, 2017, 1:21:23 PM5/30/17
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Reload Basket Bag.
-Cheaper than Swift
-Holds more than Swift
-No zipper to break or leak

https://www.reloadbags.com/category-s/2047.htm

I put some ball bungees on the top of my basket, and they keep the bag closed and secure in the basket. The bungees keep the rolled top bag closed and relatively water tight.  When loading the bag, simply stretch the bungees around the perimeter.

Davey Two Shoes

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May 30, 2017, 2:30:57 PM5/30/17
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Thanks for all the feedback! So far it looks as though the Sugarloaf will prove better for my needs.
Has anyone heard about the North Street Scout 14?

Jon Schultz

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May 30, 2017, 2:38:56 PM5/30/17
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I just got a scout for mt wife to sit on a surly 8 pack rack.  It's very small compared to my reload bag.  It would not fill a wald basket.

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Thanks for all the feedback! So far it looks as though the Sugarloaf will prove better for my needs.
Has anyone heard about the North Street Scout 14?

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Davey Two Shoes

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May 30, 2017, 3:02:55 PM5/30/17
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Hi Jon,
did you get the scout 11 or 14?

Jon Schultz

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May 30, 2017, 3:43:00 PM5/30/17
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Sorry, I got the smaller one
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drew

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May 30, 2017, 3:59:24 PM5/30/17
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i'm also loving my sugarloaf. it has now solidly replaced a handlebar bag and a saddlebag for daily riding. great size. i like the multiple pockets. easy on and off. doesn't look too bad walking around with it.

Bill Lindsay

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May 30, 2017, 5:14:09 PM5/30/17
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I think you may need one of each.  

BL in EC


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Jim S.

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May 30, 2017, 6:55:17 PM5/30/17
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Davey, I've got both, (and a Scout 11 for that matter.)

I like them all.

I think the winner is the ShopSack. It's simpler. When I'm on a tour, I just throw stuff in. With lots of little pockets, I can't remember where I put what. With only one choice, I know it's all there. Also, the ShopSack opens nice and wide on the top, and it holds more. Also, the ShopSack is more useful when not in the basket. 

Re the Scout 11, I know it's not a basket bag (the Scout 14 is.) With that said, the Scout 11 is very useful as a handlebar bag, or as a racktop bag, particularly if you need a bag to easily switch among various bikes. I think I rate it ahead of the TrunkSack.

So that's my 2 cents. But they're all nice bags, no question. 

EasyRider

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May 31, 2017, 10:08:15 AM5/31/17
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I own a medium ShopSack. As Jim. S. says, it's very useful when not in the basket. I use mine to commute. It holds a small tool bag, a change of clothes, and personal items, with plenty of room to spare. Off the bike, the handles are the perfect length for either carrying it at your side or over your shoulder. Great carry-on and overnight bag. The fabric is not stiff, so it's easy to squash it down to get it out of the way of levers and cables.

BTW, Jon Baler, your machine green Rosco Bubbe with the R.E. Load bag and custom frame pack is probably my favorite build of late -- other than my own Bubbe!

Pete
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