Cameras On Bikes

[Keith P.]

“Bicycles” is a sport you can spend just about as much as you want to on - so it stands to reason that so many of you seem to be enamored with the “money-pit” hobby of photography as well.

All of us have our phone cameras with us on bike rides, but do you have a secondary carry? How do you like it? Is this enough of a Rivendell related topic to merit being on here? Perhaps as long as we post photos of us taking photos, whilst on our bikes.

Either way, I appreciated everyone’s responses on the hijacked Springtime Photos thread enough to compile some images:

Keith Paugh - Olympus XA

I recently picked up this little gem. It fits perfectly in the back pocket of a jersey. Maybe not the sharpest camera out there, but I’m not the sharpest photographer either. 

Ian M. - Olympus Stylus Epic

[Keith P.]

Eric Norris - Yashica T4

Olympus XA4 

[Keith P.]

Eric Norris (cont.) - Lomo LCA120

Leica IA

[Keith P.]

Brian - Ricoh GR II

Will had a great Rivendell newsletter post about their love of the Ricoh GR III (and GR IIIx). I can’t for the life of me find it again, but they extol it’s cycling virtues with enthusiasm and gusto. 

I really wanted to include a link to it. Maybe one of you will remember where to find it. 

[Keith P.]

Ted Durant - Olympus OM-D E-5mkII 

Olympus PEN E

(When I bought my Olympus XA, I was looking for a Pen F

[Keith P.]

Jamin Orrall - 7 megapixel Olympus C-7070

Marcus Gomersall - Insta 360 Go 3

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Keep 'em coming, and get someone to iPhone a picture of you shooting your cameras, riding your Rivs, no hands, on rocky terrain.

k.

[Nick Payne]

Back in film camera days I mainly used a succession of small 35mm cameras for cycling photography - Rollei 35, Olympus XA, Ricoh GR and GR21 - but I also occasionally carried a 120 roll file camera as well, either a YashicaMat 124G TLR or a Makina 67 folding rangefinder. With digital cameras, I've had a succession of the various Sony RX100 models - the original model, then the RX100 IV, which added a popup viewfinder, and currently the RX100 VII, which increased the focal range. These days, I travel with the RX100 VII and my phone, though I find that I mostly use the phone unless I need the longer focal length or burst mode of the dedicated camera.

Here's one tour shot with the Olympus XA: https://goo.gl/photos/U7H7PABV1r6QLLxN8

One shot with the Makina 67: https://goo.gl/photos/Mq1z4mycSFkQFdsd6

And our most recent tour in Europe, where I think virtually all the photos were taken with my phone (at the time, a Pixel 4), except for the photos of the racing at the cycling world championships in Innsbruck, where I used the RX100 for it's greater reach and fast burst mode: https://photos.app.goo.gl/B2RriY2XXGPfh6VaA

Nick Payne

[ian m]

On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 2:53:08 AM UTC-4 Keith P. wrote:

Ian M. - Olympus Stylus Epic

I do have this zoom model but prefer the fixed-lens model (also known as the "μ[mju:]-II"). It's incredibly small and the fixed-lens allows for much faster ready time once the cover is opened, and I think it's a bit sharper too. Unfortunately I have a light leak in that one which tends to ruin at least 3 shots per roll. A local shop quoted me $200 for a new back! I think I paid $25 for the camera. Alas, as the price of these point and shoots skyrockets I may have to give in as it would be cheaper than replacing.

[David Hays]

Beautiful Leica 1A. Love the beausage.

On May 15, 2024, at 2:59 AM, Keith P. <keith...@gmail.com> wrote:

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Eric Norris (cont.) - Lomo LCA120

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Leica IA

On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 11:58:09 PM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:

Eric Norris - Yashica T4

Olympus XA4 

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[rlti...@gmail.com]

My favorite camera to carry on the bike is the Sony RX100. It takes great photos and is pretty compact. I have also found it to be very reliable and has handled lots of travel without failing.

These days I am liking to mount my Insta360 X3/X4 on my bike. It’s a 360 camera so you can shoot now and then pick your framing later. I am really liking using these cameras due to the unique perspectives you can achieve. Mounted correctly the software will eliminate the camera mount from the photo/video.

Robert Tilley

San Diego, CA

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On May 14, 2024, at 11:53 PM, Keith P. <keith...@gmail.com> wrote:



“Bicycles” is a sport you can spend just about as much as you want to on - so it stands to reason that so many of you seem to be enamored with the “money-pit” hobby of photography as well.

All of us have our phone cameras with us on bike rides, but do you have a secondary carry? How do you like it? Is this enough of a Rivendell related topic to merit being on here? Perhaps as long as we post photos of us taking photos, whilst on our bikes.

Either way, I appreciated everyone’s responses on the hijacked Springtime Photos thread enough to compile some images:

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Keith Paugh - Olympus XA

I recently picked up this little gem. It fits perfectly in the back pocket of a jersey. Maybe not the sharpest camera out there, but I’m not the sharpest photographer either. 

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Ian M. - Olympus Stylus Epic

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[jamin orrall]

Yes I have been using the Olympus C-7070 for color photos, though mine is a lot more compact than that one (no battery grip) and it was not 100 dollars! 

I use a flip phone so a dedicated camera is essential if I want to take photos.  It actually takes great pictures, shoots fully manual and in raw.  It's hard to say why I am so drawn to it, I like the shape, it feels very rugged and the lens is actually really nice.  The colors are nicer to me than some new digital cameras, and it's not overly sharp.  

All that said I shoot about a roll every two weeks of black and white film.  I roll my own canisters and process/scan at home.  No printing right now because I don't have a darkroom.  I shoot with a leica m4 or nikon f2 mostly but on the bike I often take an Olympus XA2.

[Eric Norris]

Here is mine. Properly maintained, these will last forever … or at least for 100 years (mine is almost there). I wonder what this camera has seen—vacations, parties, wars?

It’s a simple camera, and with a bit of practice and knowledge is very easy to use. Sunny 16 or a light meter or phone app for exposure, guess the distance to the subject, wind on and shoot. Truly back to basics, and a great pairing with Rivendell’s traditional bike styles.

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[Patrick Moore]

I enjoy the sometimes very good quality (composition as well as reproductive quality) of the photos shared on this list, so all you good photographers please buy better cameras.

Me, I'd like to learn how to take distance shots with an old iPhone, tho' very possibly it's not possible. I tried to take a wide shot of Canada geese and white (crested?) herons and various other wildfowl yesterday at a nearby nature open space but the results were so poor that I had to discard them. [I don't want an additional apparatus of a dedicated camera.]

I remember there was an iBoblist fad back in the early aughts, before this list existed, of taking bike ride photos with those very primitive and very cheap early-Chinese manufacturing stick cameras that you could pick up for $4 or even as free giveaways everywhere, then uploading them via some file management system using a software with very primitive user interface. I was surprised at the quality of some of these photos, including distance and even panoramic shots; all these with unadjustable plastic lenses. Kent Peterson IIRC posted some wonderful photos this way, and even I managed some that were as good as most I take with my iPhone8. 

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[Bones]

I typically leave my phone home when I go out for rides, unless I’m commuting to work. GR IIIx works well for me. It fits easily into a loosely cinched stem bag, where I can grab it whenever I want. I shoot exclusively in snap focus mode on this camera. Quick and easy. Occasionally I even take nice pictures.

Bones

[DavidP]

Another Ricoh GR user - my 1st gen is still going strong nearly after 10 years. Still love the image quality. Almost upgraded to a GRIII last year (mostly for IS), but decided to stick with the one I have.

I bought the GR after my RX100 failed (stuck lens mechanism) because I wasn't careful about where I stored it on a bike ride (fairly obvious but don't let your camera sit in a bag that comes into contact with a frame tube). My favorite features of the RX100 were the pano mode and the custom self-timer (basically a built in intervalometer).

I sometimes stick my EOS R with a small lens in a waist pack, but usually bring the GR in a stem bag or handlebar bar bag (just no contact with the bike!).

-Dave

[christian poppell]

Fun topic! For film cameras I've used a Minolta GT and a Nikon FE with a 50mm 1.8. The Minolta gets thrown in the handlebar bag and the Nikon has a Tunitas Motion camera strap (https://www.tunitascreative.com/product-page/motion-camera-strap). We also recently used a disposable for a trip out to Lost Dutchman which was a fun way to snap some film shots while riding (much less stressful taking photos while riding too). 

Its been tempting to make the switch back to digital, especially when film and developing are so expensive. I believe the justification to continue shooting film are in the limitations and the fact that I don't have to sit in front of a computer to get the images, managing folders, and organizing everything. Even when I had Lightroom it was a chore. 

[Bob Ehrenbeck]

Another Olympus OM-D E-M5 mk II user here. The 17mm f/1.8 lens keeps things nice and light when the camera is hanging from my neck or on my shoulder, ready for action photos during group rides.

Bob E.

Cranford, NJ

[Chester]

Robert Tilley wrote:

My favorite camera to carry on the bike is the Sony RX100. It takes great photos and is pretty compact. 

When I carry a camera, it's been an RX100 (III), too. After all these years, it's still a really nice package compromise of overall size, sensor size, and zoom range.  

But, for more than a few years now...

Bones wrote:

I typically leave my phone home when I go out for rides, unless I’m commuting to work. GR IIIx works well for me.

...I've been wanting to get a Ricoh GR III. Or maybe a IIIx. Hard to decide what focal length to commit to but I think probably it makes most sense to go with the III to have the option of having a wide lens, but with 24MP resolution, having a pretty good amount of leeway to crop.

In years past, there were times when I'd lug around a D-SLR, carrying it in a LowePro SLR toploader bag worn as a fanny pack...looking super, super cool. Sometimes on a minivelo, just to fully round out how awesome I looked. 

Really appreciate bigger sensors being available in pocketable packages. I don't ride in jerseys any more, so I haven't settled on the best way to carry even a really compact camera like an RX100 or GR. Even when just riding with my phone, with it in the pocket of a normal pair of shorts, it's not a great to wrestle it out while pedaling. Have ridding a couple times with the RX100 in a stem pouch and that's probably the best carry option I've used so far. Ir maybe that sort of bag worn on a belt, or...a fanny pack.

This all reminds me that I've got an old Fuji X-M1 that could fit in a small bag with the 27mm f/2.8 and using that for a while will give me a better idea of whether I'd be more happy with a GR IIIx or GR III.

Thanks for starting the thread, Keith. Fun seeing what other folks are carrying while riding. 

Chester
SF Bay Area

[Keith Paugh]

Well, I've learned about a few cameras I haven't tried or seen before.

There has been a Ricoh GR III in my checkout cart on multiple occasions, but never knew there was a 35mm version.

I'll be avoiding ebay for a few days.

Nick, those photos and trips are incredible! What amazing experiences.

I thought this one about summed it up. Fully loaded and a camera within reach. 

Thank you for sharing those albums.

Those Bell helmets are iconic. 

Everyone had one growing up, and every garage probably has one full of spiderwebs now.

Strava Challenge: On your next ride, find a glass building or other reflection to shoot a self portrait - On your bike camera, while on your Riv.

Keith

Los Angeles, CA

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[Nick Payne]

On Thursday 16 May 2024 at 1:03:44 pm UTC+10 Chester wrote:

Really appreciate bigger sensors being available in pocketable packages. I don't ride in jerseys any more, so I haven't settled on the best way to carry even a really compact camera like an RX100 or GR. Even when just riding with my phone, with it in the pocket of a normal pair of shorts, it's not a great to wrestle it out while pedaling. Have ridding a couple times with the RX100 in a stem pouch and that's probably the best carry option I've used so far. Ir maybe that sort of bag worn on a belt, or...a fanny pack.

For carrying phone/cameras, I've been using one of the Routewerks handlebar bags for several years. I have a Quadlock mount on the lid, so that's where my phone sits, which makes it extremely easy to grab for a quick photo, and although the bag is quite small, there's enough room inside for both my Leica Q2M and RX100 if I want to carry both. Being a handlebar bag that's not supported underneath, it provides a degrees of insulation from bumps and vibration:

 

Nick Payne

[Bones]

That’s a really cool bag, Nick. Thanks for sharing. Most handlebar bags I’ve come across are too large and bulky. This one is a great size and shape.

Bones

[Ted Durant]

The aforementioned OM-D E-M5 MkII with Panasonic 20mm/f1.7 lens, perched on the Berthoud bag on my Waterford.

Ted Durant

Milwaukee WI USA

[Chester]

Nick Payne wrote:

On Thursday 16 May 2024 at 1:03:44 pm UTC+10 Chester wrote:

Really appreciate bigger sensors being available in pocketable packages. I don't ride in jerseys any more, so I haven't settled on the best way to carry even a really compact camera like an RX100 or GR. Even when just riding with my phone, with it in the pocket of a normal pair of shorts, it's not a great to wrestle it out while pedaling. Have ridding a couple times with the RX100 in a stem pouch and that's probably the best carry option I've used so far. Ir maybe that sort of bag worn on a belt, or...a fanny pack.

For carrying phone/cameras, I've been using one of the Routewerks handlebar bags for several years. 

That looks really really practical. I need to do a deep dive into getting a new handlebar bag. Would like a bigger one and one with a quick release so it's less fiddly to not leave my bag behind when stopping somewhere while riding around town. Using mustache handlebars complicates things a little, but deciding to go with pink accents even more so.

Think for larger cameras with interchangeable lenses, even if a relatively small one with a not-big lens, is gonna be best carried in a bigger handelbar bag. Using a shoulder strap with a stabilizer strap works well too, but I just don't want the weight on me, even if it's not all that much. 

So far, for the RX100, a stem pouch has been pretty good, and I've stuck a folded innertube at the bottom of the bag to raise the floor and make it easier to get the camera out while pedaling. But this definitely won't take an MILC, unless it's an especially small body and especially flat pancake lens.

Another camera that I wish I had to try out for carrying while riding is a Panasonic LX100. Pretty compact all-in-one with a 24-75mm (equiv) zoom and m43 sensor. 

Chester

SF Bay Area

[John Rinker]

Speaking of cameras on bikes, I remember coming across this cool story of Frank Lenz a while back. Is anybody else carrying a 15lb camera and a 10lb pith helmet?

Frank Lenz: The Lost Cyclist

Cheers, John

[Patrick Moore]

Photo taken while Lenz was auditioning for Spaceballs.

Apparently he disdained the new-tech miniaturized Brownie Box Camera in favor of tried-and-true glass plates.

And very interesting photo of a late-early chain-driven "safety" bicycle with -- per the article -- new-fangled pneumatic tires. Talk about tight wheelbases! I guess that designers of the "diamond frame" bicycle were still in thrall to the riding position of the ordinary.

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[David Hays]

I use padded inserts in my GB, Ostrich and Cory Brenn bags to safely carry my cameras.

Today it was an Olympus Pen in my GB bag on the my Homer and tomorrow probably my Leica M240 in my Cory Brent on my Mercian.

I sometimes rationalize the bikes as facilitating my photography and at others my photography motivates my cycling…

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[Eric Norris]

I use the same type of insert and have never had a problem with a camera that I’ve carried. The padded inserts also have the side benefit of making it harder to carry a bunch of useless stuff in the bag. 

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On May 21, 2024, at 10:26 AM, David Hays <23wr...@gmail.com> wrote:

I use padded inserts in my GB, Ostrich and Cory Brenn bags to safely carry my cameras.

Today it was an Olympus Pen in my GB bag on the my Homer and tomorrow probably my Leica M240 in my Cory Brent on my Mercian.

I sometimes rationalize the bikes as facilitating my photography and at others my photography motivates my cycling…

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On May 16, 2024, at 10:31 AM, Ted Durant <tedd...@gmail.com> wrote:

The aforementioned OM-D E-M5 MkII with Panasonic 20mm/f1.7 lens, perched on the Berthoud bag on my Waterford.

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[Chris Halasz]

When I'm not auditioning for Spaceballs (that is a helmet cover), I sometimes bring binos into the hills with the high mileage point and shoot. It's not about the pixels, it's about the dynamic range. And I just love the small but high utility Arkel signature bar bag, double duty as an over-the-shoulder/sling bag. 

Cheers, 

Chris 

[Keith Paugh]

Chris - Outstanding on all counts.👌

k.

On May 21, 2024, at 2:18 PM, Chris Halasz <cha...@gmail.com> wrote:

When I'm not auditioning for Spaceballs (that is a helmet cover), I sometimes bring binos into the hills with the high mileage point and shoot. It's not about the pixels, it's about the dynamic range. And I just love the small but high utility Arkel signature bar bag, double duty as an over-the-shoulder/sling bag. 

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Cheers, 

Chris 

On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 9:01:14 PM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:

Speaking of cameras on bikes, I remember coming across this cool story of Frank Lenz a while back. Is anybody else carrying a 15lb camera and a 10lb pith helmet?

Frank Lenz: The Lost Cyclist

Cheers, John

On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 2:40:51 PM UTC-7 Chester wrote:

Nick Payne wrote:

On Thursday 16 May 2024 at 1:03:44 pm UTC+10 Chester wrote:

Really appreciate bigger sensors being available in pocketable packages. I don't ride in jerseys any more, so I haven't settled on the best way to carry even a really compact camera like an RX100 or GR. Even when just riding with my phone, with it in the pocket of a normal pair of shorts, it's not a great to wrestle it out while pedaling. Have ridding a couple times with the RX100 in a stem pouch and that's probably the best carry option I've used so far. Ir maybe that sort of bag worn on a belt, or...a fanny pack.

For carrying phone/cameras, I've been using one of the Routewerks handlebar bags for several years. 

That looks really really practical. I need to do a deep dive into getting a new handlebar bag. Would like a bigger one and one with a quick release so it's less fiddly to not leave my bag behind when stopping somewhere while riding around town. Using mustache handlebars complicates things a little, but deciding to go with pink accents even more so.

Think for larger cameras with interchangeable lenses, even if a relatively small one with a not-big lens, is gonna be best carried in a bigger handelbar bag. Using a shoulder strap with a stabilizer strap works well too, but I just don't want the weight on me, even if it's not all that much. 

So far, for the RX100, a stem pouch has been pretty good, and I've stuck a folded innertube at the bottom of the bag to raise the floor and make it easier to get the camera out while pedaling. But this definitely won't take an MILC, unless it's an especially small body and especially flat pancake lens.

Another camera that I wish I had to try out for carrying while riding is a Panasonic LX100. Pretty compact all-in-one with a 24-75mm (equiv) zoom and m43 sensor. 

Chester

SF Bay Area

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[Andrew Letton]

Who makes that helmet cover, Chris? Me like!

cheers,

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[Chris Halasz]

Apologies for topic shift to Straw Helmet Sunshade and Cover* 

Andrew 

The helmet cover is made by Bike Pretty. Advertised for women, I wanted an alternative to wearing a do-rag under my helmet, and a Da Brim around the sides. 

The full cover is at the bequest of my dermatologist, who's provided me a weight loss effort this past year removing chunks from my ear, arm, hand, and foot. Too much swimming, surfing, fly fishing, and I suppose cycling in the Colorado, Idaho, Arizona, and California sun for too many years. An old surfer friend of mine had skin cancer in his scalp, and I really don't want to experience that. I look for sun coverage in anything I put on my head, and I pretty much always wear a full brim hat whenever I go outsider now. I cringe a little when I see trendy shaved heads under massively vented helmets, either at the amounts of sun the wearer is receiving, or at the amounts of sunscreen they are applying to their scalps. 

The Bike Pretty cover is made for a particular type helmet that did not interest me, but their advertising stated the size XL cover may fit various other helmets. 

Here is the Bike Pretty XL on a size medium Specialized Align II helmet: 

And the same on my size XL cover on a size L/XL Specialized Align II helmet, with festive black ribbon removed: 

And from a rear perspective you can see how the tailfin of the helmet profile protrudes a bit into the straw weave: 

The cover fits without issue on the size medium helmet, but was a close fit on the size L/XL, so I fastened first from the front of the elastic band to the helmet with some black thread: 

And then my wife stitched this much nicer hemp thread detail to the rear to keep the thing from flying off in the breeze: 

The cover weave breathes so much nicer that a do-rag or hat worn under the helmet, and provides ample cover (although it's a weave, and not solid fabric as with the heavier Da Brim). 

I was pretty unsure about ordering it, thinking it was too goofy, but thought it would be no worse in appearance than the Da Brim. Our cycling group went crazy when they was it, and my wife ordered hers right away. 

My next helmet purchase, and soon, will be a more round and better fitted helmet to go with the Bike Pretty weave cover. 

I really like it! Maybe Grant will introduce a better brim and coverage during his helmet investigation? 

Cheers,

Chris 

[Chester]

Chris Halasz wrote:

Apologies for topic shift to Straw Helmet Sunshade and Cover* 

Andrew 

The helmet cover is made by Bike Pretty. Advertised for women, I wanted an alternative to wearing a do-rag under my helmet, and a Da Brim around the sides. 

I totally thought it was gonna turn out to be one of the Yakkay helmet/cover combos:

Straw Hat Helmet (helmet+cover) (yakkay.com)

Bike Helmet Hats (yakkay.com)

Chester

SF Bay Area 

[Andrew Letton]

Thanks for the detailed reply, Chris! I'll look into it...

I have a DaBrim for the Aussie sun, but this straw cover looks so much better.

cheers,

Andrew

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[Sarah Carlson]

Thank you for bringing this up! I have had only baby chonks chopped out by my dermatologist but I recently had a friend pass away from skin cancer. I just bought Da Brim in a festive pastel ribbon look. While it feels a bit derpy, it is preferable to the alternative.

I feel like the Bike Pretty could go well on an elegant Platypus picnic ride.

I'm waiting for pictures to show up on Leah's "Fashion on the bike" thread!

[rlti...@gmail.com]

I’ve had somewhere around 50 cancers surgically removed. One melanoma and the rest basal cells. I’m of Irish ancestry but grew up and still live in SoCal. My skin type doesn’t belong here for sure. I basically stopped wearing a helmet and wear wide brimmed hats when I ride. I also wear sun shirts to cover my upper body. For the riding I do a sun hat is better protection than a helmet would be.

For rides where a helmet makes sense I wear a skull cap underneath and apply sunscreen. I do try and avoid the 10-2 timeframe but that isn’t always an option.

Robert Tilley

San Diego, CA

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[Chester]

This all got me wondering if one could get a helmet cover/hat in the style of, say, a Stetson.

Sort of:

Resistol RideSafe Western Straw Cowboy Hat Helmet | Riding Warehouse

Photos (shadyrider.com)

Equestrian Riding Helmet Brimmer™ - Troxel Helmet – Troxel Helmets

I don't know anything about the extent to which equestrian helmet standards overlap with cycling helmets. And I'm still aspiring to make myself ride enough to be more concerned about sun exposure.

Chester

SF Bay Area

[Keith P.]

Phone self-portrait youof Hillborne & Olympus XA

k.

[John]

I've been enjoying the Outer Shell camera strap (bought off forum member Mike last month!) to lug my new-to-me Fuji X-T1 around. Having it quickly accessible has been encouraging me to get out more.

[jamin orrall]

fuji200/nikon fe, from last year!

[Keith Paugh]

These are rad.

Keep ’em coming!

k.

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fuji200/nikon fe, from last year!

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On Thursday, June 6, 2024 at 10:38:58 AM UTC-7 John wrote:

I've been enjoying the Outer Shell camera strap (bought off forum member Mike last month!) to lug my new-to-me Fuji X-T1 around. Having it quickly accessible has been encouraging me to get out more.

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[Chester]

John wrote:

I've been enjoying the Outer Shell camera strap (bought off forum member Mike last month!) to lug my new-to-me Fuji X-T1 around. 

Here's another option for anyone interested:

Rider Strap: Adventure Camera Strap — PS Bagworks

Cool thing is that this one comes in several versions: with traditional split ring attachment, OP/TECH clip, or Peak Designs. Good and bad of it is that the attachment receivers are stitched in. Personally, I use Peak Design stuff so I like the fact that it's stitch-finished instead of being interchangeable but needing a slide to secure the receivers.

Also has a magnetic buckle at the chest for the stabilizer strap.

Chester

SF Bay Area 

[Drew Saunders]

OK, I know the theme is carrying cameras, mostly film cameras, on rides, but here's how I bike with a rather large camera. I only take this setup up to 2-3 miles, so it's clearly riding to photograph, not carrying a camera just in case I want to photograph. 

So, what's in that rather large backpack?

That's an Ebony 45SU 4x5" large format film camera. Like the Quickbeam, it's from 2008, but since a lot of people assume that a wood and leather camera must be ancient, I like to tell them "it's an oh-eight" and let them guess the century. Hint: The metal bits are titanium, so it's not that old! 

I have the Photobackpacker (a.k.a. RPT, and the guy fully retired recently, so, like the Ebony, it can't be bought new any more) modified Kelty backpack and Photobackpacker system to carry the camera and lenses. I sometimes carry up to 6 lenses, but today went on an "all wide" excursion, carrying my 65mm, 80mm, 125mm and 135mm lenses, but didn't end up using the 135. For those of you who are wondering "what's the 'crop factor'?" well, it's complicated to compare a 2:3 ratio (24x36mm) to a 4:5 ratio (96x120mm), but 3.5 is good enough, so those are all pretty wide lenses. I like to choose a few lenses for each excursion. I have, let's just say, more than four lenses. Possibly way more than four...

The big side pocket carries the film holders and is sized for the sadly out of production Quickload/Readyload holders and film. The Tripod is a Manfrotto 441 (not sure what the current equivalent would be) with a rather heavy Manfrotto 410 geared head. 

Here's the 125 in use:

Extremely eagle-eyed observers may notice that I swapped to the bag bellows. Most of you are thinking "bag what now?"

I probably should get an electric cargo bike some day.

Drew

[Patrick Moore]

I know nothing about cameras but I know and wholeheartedly approve of the bike and its setup -- drop bar well placed, eminently practical build with the Carradice, flapped SKS', and small basket plus the fun of a fixed gear (or is the rear cog a fw cog?). About a 65" gear? My remaining (out of 5 total) Riv is a custom fixed gear favorite, and 2 of the others were also converted to fixed drivetrains and used for commuting with Carradice (Nelson LF or Camper LF) or Cartwright (Adam) saddlebags. My current Riv fixed has a Small Sackville.

Back to the camera: what is the benefit or purpose of the large format? My brother is an expert and would know, and my (23-year-old) daughter plans to learn to use manually-adjusted film camera someone kindly gave her. Me, if I get an occasional decent photo with my old iPhone it's purely by luck.

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[Drew Saunders]

The QB has what I like to call “the world’s most inconvenient 4 speed.” Stock 32-40 chainrings, 17-19 Dos Eno freewheel on the flip side of the flip/flop hub and a 22t regular freewheel on the flop side. I can use the 17 and 19 with the 40, and the 19 and 22 with the 32, but haven’t changed out of the 40x17 in a long time. I rode fixed from about 1998-2004, but severely injured my right knee when it bent back a bit while on the fixie, so I can’t ride fixed any more. The knee injury forced me to lose 80+ lbs, so it wasn’t all bad. The QB was a present to myself for the weight loss.

That’s a Carradice lowsaddle longflap that I bought from Riv a very long time ago. I carry my lock, a Sackville sack for the medium Wald, a basket net, and an insulated bag just in case I need to keep groceries cold in it.

Why shoot large format? Mostly, because I still can. Realistically, a negative that’s over 13x the area of 35mm gives you not only more detail, but smoother transitions through the different colors or shades of grey. I only shoot black and white now, but have shot positive film in the past, and a large format slide is really impressive. With most LF cameras, you have front and rear standards with all the perspective control movements of rise/fall and lateral shift, plus tilt and swing. Also, you have no choice but to slow down and really think about your photograph. I shot 5 images in about an hour and a half this morning, and that’s relatively fast!

I’ll develop the negatives tomorrow, but here’s an album of photos, mostly large format, taken at that Arizona Garden on the Stanford campus. https://flic.kr/s/aHsiVZiPU4

I’ll add these to that album once they’re scanned.

[Keith Paugh]

Drew,

This is awesome. 

Beautiful 4x5 camera that I would like to know more about.

Good on you for transporting it by bike too.

I have been working on doing this with my medium format camera with limited success.

Tripods present particularly prickly problems.

I need to figure out more lashings.

Thanks for posting!

I’d love to see some of your resulting images.

k.

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That's an Ebony 45SU 4x5" large format film camera. Like the Quickbeam, it's from 2008, but since a lot of people assume that a wood and leather camera must be ancient, I like to tell them "it's an oh-eight" and let them guess the century. Hint: The metal bits are titanium, so it's not that old! 

I have the Photobackpacker (a.k.a. RPT, and the guy fully retired recently, so, like the Ebony, it can't be bought new any more) modified Kelty backpack and Photobackpacker system to carry the camera and lenses. I sometimes carry up to 6 lenses, but today went on an "all wide" excursion, carrying my 65mm, 80mm, 125mm and 135mm lenses, but didn't end up using the 135. For those of you who are wondering "what's the 'crop factor'?" well, it's complicated to compare a 2:3 ratio (24x36mm) to a 4:5 ratio (96x120mm), but 3.5 is good enough, so those are all pretty wide lenses. I like to choose a few lenses for each excursion. I have, let's just say, more than four lenses. Possibly way more than four...

The big side pocket carries the film holders and is sized for the sadly out of production Quickload/Readyload holders and film. The Tripod is a Manfrotto 441 (not sure what the current equivalent would be) with a rather heavy Manfrotto 410 geared head. 

Here's the 125 in use:

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Extremely eagle-eyed observers may notice that I swapped to the bag bellows. Most of you are thinking "bag what now?"

I probably should get an electric cargo bike some day.

Drew

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[Drew Saunders]

Keith,

Sadly, Ebony Cameras shut down in 2018 but here's an archived 2017 version of their website: 
https://web.archive.org/web/20170813101043/http://www.ebonycamera.com/

The various PDFs at the bottom are worth downloading while you can.

The 45SU is a non-folding field camera, an idea that Ebony pioneered, and that Chamonix continues to make with a couple of their offerings. The "U" means asymmetric rear swing and tilt, which is rather confusing at first, but once you get used to it, works really well. A bit too esoteric to explain in a bike group, but one of the PDFs explains it. 

The PDF catalog does assume you understand how view cameras work. There are lots of resources online if you're wondering about view cameras, including good youtube videos. I like Mat Marrash's and Ben Horne's youtube channels.

Plenty of modern camera backpacks have tripod straps, which oddly wasn't always the case (thus why the Photo Backpacker was born about 20 or so years ago).

Drew

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks for that photo selection. 20 and 30 years ago Ansel Adams' photos were very popular here in the SW and I recall the surprisingly clear quality of the details in his large format B&W photos -- at least, I think he use a large format camera. The difference with even professional 35 mm shots was evident even to me.

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[Chester]

After some months of regularly checking FB Marketplace, I finally came along a reasonably-priced used Ricoh GR IIIx being sold locally and picked that up. And then B&H suddenly had the Ricoh GR III in stock and got that too. So I've been riding around with two pocket cameras, which is kind of silly but I rationalize it by telling myself that 28mm and 40mm are very different focal lengths, and they both fit together in a stem bag.

The stem bag is a Swift Industries Sidekick and they fit maybe a little too snugly. I have them "back to back" with LCD screens facing each other and it would be nice to have a divider in between, even if unpadded. I don't want to do any sewing and I tried in vain to find something to plop in as a divider that would be rigid and attach to a base that would fit the circumference of the bag bottom, but no dice. When I get around to it, I'll maybe see if a custom bag maker on Etsy can sew in a divider straight down the middle. In the meantime, I just stick something in between. A plastic ziplock bag, in this picture.

The GR IIIx is on the right in the bag with the wrist strap hanging out and I'm taking the picture with the GR III. It's nice to have both immediately on hand without having to open/close a bag. And one of the nicest features of the Ricoh GR's is that the start-up time is super fast. Just got to dial in settings. Think maybe it makes most sense to have them in Manual mode while riding, with shutter speed high enough, and aperture dialed down, with the camera auto-adjusting ISO. 

[Ted Durant]

On Aug 14, 2024, at 9:44 PM, Chester <cheste...@gmail.com> wrote:

So I've been riding around with two pocket cameras, which is kind of silly but I rationalize it by telling myself that 28mm and 40mm are very different focal lengths, and they both fit together in a stem bag.

I like it! I really like those two focal lengths, and the cameras being so small makes it perfectly reasonable to carry them both. Definitely want to keep the LCD screens separated. You should be able to find some small fleece sacks that are close to the right size. Or just cut a piece from an old t-shirt the right size to do a burrito wrap around one of them.

[Chester]

On Wednesday, August 14, 2024 at 7:52:45 PM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:

On Aug 14, 2024, at 9:44 PM, Chester <cheste...@gmail.com> wrote:

So I've been riding around with two pocket cameras, which is kind of silly but I rationalize it by telling myself that 28mm and 40mm are very different focal lengths, and they both fit together in a stem bag.

I like it! I really like those two focal lengths, and the cameras being so small makes it perfectly reasonable to carry them both.

Thank you very, very much, Ted, for providing the expert testimony that I shall submit to my wife if she questions the necessity of keeping both. 

 

Definitely want to keep the LCD screens separated.

I've added aftermarket screen protectors so I'm not worried about the actual screen being scratched, but the idea of the backs directly up against each other is still disconcerting, and it's not like I don't care about the screen protectors getting scratched, so do want to figure out a really nice way to keep them separated.

 

You should be able to find some small fleece sacks that are close to the right size. Or just cut a piece from an old t-shirt the right size to do a burrito wrap around one of them.

Having them wrapped/pouched inside the bag definitely works. Ricoh has an official leather sleeve that's great for protection with minimal added bulk. But the problem with wrapping them or even having them in a slipcase sort of thing is that this would make it harder to pull the camera out on the fly and shoot, while riding, with one hand. So I want them to be "loose" in the stem bag, but just have something in between them.

Having something just floating in between works okay, but it's not perfect, since it'll shift and can make "re-holstering" a camera a little bit fussy. 

I'm going to first try to see if I can find the right combination of the something like the above: acrylic sign holder or shelf divider with a circular base of optimal diameter and divider of the right width to freestand right in the middle of the bag. 

I'm sure I could go to a Tap Plastics and get something made, but if I go to that trouble/expense, then might as well just find a custom bag maker to make something that'd be perfect...and match handlebar/saddle bags.

Chester

SF Bay Area