[RBW] Nitto Highrider front rack vs. Big Front Rack vs. Low Riders

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Rene Sterental

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Apr 27, 2010, 12:57:19 AM4/27/10
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Does anybody have any experience comparing these three?
 
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Esteban

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Apr 27, 2010, 1:39:54 AM4/27/10
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No comparison. Love my lowriders. Tracks straight as a train.

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

JoelMatthews

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Apr 27, 2010, 9:04:33 AM4/27/10
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I have Tubus Tara lowriders for long touring and use the Pass Stow
rack for city and short trips.

Having the flat top is very handy for multiple stop short rides. I
have a nice Swift bag that sits nicely on top. When I make multiple
stops at the bakery, produce store, and other stores it is very easy
to access the bag.

On long tours where I am only accessing my gear in the a.m. and p.m.,
the Tara is better. It holds the bags low and out of the way. There
is minimal impact on steering and road feel. Panniers hold onto the
low rider very tight.

I use a bar bag for maps, snacks, my wallet and phone.

LouisvillePatrick

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Apr 27, 2010, 1:34:52 PM4/27/10
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Hey Rene (Forgive the mis-spelling...again),

For my 64cm Bomba, WITH 46mm Marathons, I had to go with the Old Man
Mountain Ultimate Low Rider. Can't beat it. I used it riding across
Wisconsin last summer fully loaded and it was a champ. It's the only
front system I could find short of the NItto big front rack that would
clear my fattest touring tire. Every other front rack either wouldn't
meet the eyelets correctly (and there are like 5678 eyelets on Bomba
forks) or the deck rubbed the tire.

And the OMM guys are great to work with! Shoot me a note offline if
you want more info...

Cheers!

Patrick
Louisville, Kentucky

JoelMatthews

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Apr 27, 2010, 1:50:47 PM4/27/10
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The OMM is a good rack. However, the Tara fit over 700c 60 mm Big
Apples for me.

On Apr 27, 12:34 pm, LouisvillePatrick <flightofthebomba...@gmail.com>
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Ken Yokanovich

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Apr 28, 2010, 7:31:56 AM4/28/10
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I've used low-riders and the Rivendell Nitto big front rack.

On an old Trek 520 (before Rivendell acquisition) I used both older
Blackburn low-riders and the Nitto. I prefer the Nitto.

I have also used the Nitto on my custom Rivendell All-Rounder for
touring and now on my Atlantis. I really like the Nitto rack. The
bags ride a bit higher (I run the bags in the lower position), but
this added some welcome clearance from the ground. My old panniers
have several tears and scuffs from taking corners too aggressively. I
also like the platform up front. I've ridden with a basket zip-tied on
which is one of the greatest things to tour with. Toss things in,
easy to reach, etc.



On Apr 26, 11:57 pm, Rene Sterental <orthie...@gmail.com> wrote:

jandrews_nyc

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Apr 29, 2010, 11:09:39 AM4/29/10
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I don't have experience comparing the three,
but I am a recent recipient of a new Nitto Big Front Rack and it's
been a pleasure to work with.
It really seems to meet the needs of one desiring both a high-rider
platform AND low-rider panniers.
They aren't quite low-riders, but they are a lot lower that with the
Highrider rack.
Here are a couple photos from a recent trip to the food coop...i'm
hauling a LOT of groceries here...

http://gallery.me.com/jasonaschwartz#100056/Grocery2&bgcolor=black

and another...

http://gallery.me.com/jasonaschwartz#100056/Grocery1&bgcolor=black

I couldn't be happier with it..
hope this helps,
J

Rene Sterental

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Apr 30, 2010, 12:44:42 AM4/30/10
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It sure does!
 
You are carrying rear panniers in the front, right? Does it affect the handling of the bike in any signficant way?
 
Can you carry the smaller front panniers hooked on the lower horizontal bar or do they also need to be hooked on the upper horizontal bar?
 
I like the ability to carry the panniers and the basket on the front. Thanks for the photos, they illustrate clearly how the rack would be mounted; on the RBW site they just have a photo of the rack unmounted.
 
Rene

jandrews_nyc

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Apr 30, 2010, 1:31:28 AM4/30/10
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Rene
yes they are technically rear panniers..but the ortlieb classic rears
are not that big.
the bike takes off a little wonky but almost instantaneously as
momentum is gained the whole bike solidifies and it feels as if I'm
driving a locomotive.
That is when the bags are truly over-loaded....otherwise I hardly
notice the rack or a modest load.
yes, the lower (middle) horizontal bar is where you'd put any size
panniers.
this leaves the very large platform to hold a basket or crate or
sleeping pad or sleeping bag or whatever.

this is the setup I'll be using on my NYC to Montreal trip with a
saddlesack LARGE in the bag resting on a Nitto top rack ...to carry
tent, sleeping pad , etc.
and the Nitto Big front in front to carry two large panniers and
sleeping bag, etc on the platform.
j

Rene Sterental

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Got the Big Front Rack and tried to mount it on the Bombadil yesterday morning before heading out on my pilot S24O. To my dismay I was unable to mount it; the front brakes (Paul Neo-Retros) did not allow the rack to align with the upper braze-ons. I couldn't figure out a way around it in the limited time I had, so I had to put the small front rack back on and will call Marc or Keven tomorrow... :-(
 
Will post an update once I figure out if there is a solution. Otherwise I'll have to return it and go with traditional low-riders.
 
René

Allingham II, Thomas J

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May 10, 2010, 10:00:26 AM5/10/10
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Rene:
 
I expect I'm going to have the same problem on my upcoming (next couple of weeks) Atlantis -- same Neo-Retros, same Nitto Big Front Rack.  If you find a solution, let me know.
 
Tom


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Rene -- I believe this is a pretty typical problem with the front rack.  I had the same issue when mounting it to the Atlantis, which also has the neo-front cantis.  RBW includes the rubber C-clamps in the kit to address the mounting issue.  Not as clean looking, but it works. 





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William

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Seems like Rivendell's lack of on-bike photos of the Big Front Rack
could be/should be addressed. Perhaps with an instructional video?
They did it for the Big Rear rack.

On May 10, 8:00 am, Ray Shine <r.sh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Rene -- I believe this is a pretty typical problem with the front rack.  I had the same issue when mounting it to the Atlantis, which also has the neo-front cantis.  RBW includes the rubber C-clamps in the kit to address the mounting issue.  Not as clean looking, but it works.  
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Rene Sterental

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May 11, 2010, 1:24:17 PM5/11/10
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Ray,
 
I'll have to look at the photo you sent me again. It didn't register that the clamps were being used for that reason. I haven't had a chance to call Marc or Keven yet, but will try to do it as soon as I get a break at work.
 
I also realized that with the Big Front Rack, I'd probably have to leave it permanently whereas if I go with the low riders (too bad there aren't any in silver ones) I could just leave the small rack permanently and install and remove the low riders when I need them.
 
We'll see how it all turns out...
 
René

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I believe this is a pretty typical problem with the front rack.  I had the same issue when mounting it to the Atlantis, which also has the neo-front cantis.  RBW includes the rubber C-clamps in the kit to address the mounting issue.  Not as clean looking, but it works. 

Allingham II, Thomas J

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Rene:
 
Keven told me that he was pretty sure they'd installed a Nitto Big Front on a bike with Neo-Retros; he was going to inquire and let me know.
 
In the meantime, though, your point is a good one about being able to take the low riders on and off when you like -- and if you want to use low riders and want silver, take a look at the Tubus Nova stainless steel rack from Peter White http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/tubus_racks.asp . I have it, and it's great.
 
Tom


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JoelMatthews

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> The picture of a Bombadil below has a Tubus Tara mounted on the front
> fork, but the horizontal bar on which you hang your panniers isn't
> level. Do you have that same issue with your Nova? On what bike do
> you have the Nova mounted on? Thanks.

Not an issue with Ortliebs or Arkels for that matter. The mounting
hardware adjusts up and down as needed to fit the rack.

On May 11, 2:02 pm, happyriding <happyrid...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 11, 12:44 pm, "Allingham II, Thomas J"
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> <Thomas.Alling...@skadden.com> wrote:
> > Rene:
>
> > Keven told me that he was pretty sure they'd installed a Nitto Big Front on a bike with Neo-Retros; he was going to inquire and let me know.
>
> > In the meantime, though, your point is a good one about being able to take the low riders on and off when you like -- and if you want to use low riders and want silver, take a look at the Tubus Nova stainless steel rack from Peter Whitehttp://www.peterwhitecycles.com/tubus_racks.asp. I have it, and it's great.
>
> The picture of a Bombadil below has a Tubus Tara mounted on the front
> fork, but the horizontal bar on which you hang your panniers isn't
> level.  Do you have that same issue with your Nova?  On what bike do
> you have the Nova mounted on?  Thanks.
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> http://www.flickr.com/photos/45341162@N04/4162942851/

Rene Sterental

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I hadn't "discovered" the Nova... it would be a great solution. Ray is using the P-clamps to be able to use the Big Front Rack below the Neo-Retro brakes, and using the highest lower tab hole on the rack so it fits under the brakes. Not as clean looking, but certainly a viable option if it is to stay permanently on the bike.
 
I'd still like to see the Nova mounted on a Riv frame, but it's looking more and more like the way for me to go. On the Big Front Rack I cannot mount my Acorn Rando bag, I also discovered. Baskets would not likely be a problem, but the bag would.
 
Is there any significant carrying capacity between the Nova and the Nitto Big Front Rack? The Nova is rated to 30 pounds...
 
René

Rene Sterental

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May 11, 2010, 5:33:38 PM5/11/10
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Seems like the perfect solution!

Lisa

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May 11, 2010, 6:00:23 PM5/11/10
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Hi -- this is my first post to this group. I am in the process of
purchasing an Atlantis for touring and I've been watching this thread
with interest, because my Atlantis frame doesn't have mid-fork rack
eyelets.

I've going to use the Nitto Big Front Rack instead of the Tubus Nova
because of concerns about using clamps on the Nova. The Tubus
lowrider racks all have a pivot where the horizontal bar that holds
your panniers attaches to the arc that goes over the front of the
wheel. So it seems to me that, if the other end of the pannier bar is
only clamped to the fork, the clamp may tend to slide down toward the
axle.

I'm not the only one worried about this, see for instance this image:
http://images.erck.org/Site/Gear_AtlantisRack307X230.jpg

Lisa

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> I found this photo...http://www.flickr.com/photos/22253260@N00/3868497649/in/set-721576224...

Ray Shine

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Lisa --- that isn't a concern because the rack is rigid and can't collapse onto itself. The only thong the p- clamp does is prevent the rack from falling forward or rearward. If the bottom of the rack is attached to eyelets, then the rack cannot slide down any further since it is a rigid structure.

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Rene Sterental

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May 12, 2010, 1:13:54 AM5/12/10
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Lisa,
 
Aside from Ray being right as usual about his explanations, I think you made an excellent choice by going with the Nitto Big Front Rack. If you have to use P-clamps, then I'd say that just for looks and versatility, this one is the winner hands down.
 
My Bombadil has all the braze-ons, it just seems that the Nitto Front Rack wasn't designed either with these brakes in mind, or with the braze-on position or something else I haven't quite figured out yet.
 
For me the choice really comes down to trying to fit the Nitto rack with the P-clamps and leaving it permanently on so I can use a basket/Sackville combo but not my Acorn Rando Bag or going with the Nova as an add-on to the Nitto Mini Front Rack that allows me to both use the basket or the Rando Bag without any hassle.
 
So far, despite how much I like the Nitto Big Front rack, I'm starting to lean more towards the Nova/Nitto Mini combo as the more versatile option.
 
René

Lisa

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Ray -- yes, the Nitto Big Front Rack is rigid, and therefore OK with
clamps. But the Nova is not rigid, according to Tubus' web site:
http://www.tubus.com/en/lowrider/nova In the diagram on the right,
the Nova pannier support arm is marked "adjustable" with arcs to show
where it pivots.

I do believe there are some rigid designs of lowriders out there --
Bruce Gordon's, for instance.

Lisa

On May 11, 7:03 pm, Ray Shine <r.sh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Lisa --- that isn't a concern because the rack is rigid and can't collapse onto itself. The only thong the p- clamp does is prevent the rack from falling forward or rearward.  If the bottom of the rack is attached to eyelets, then the rack cannot slide down any further since it is a rigid structure.

JoelMatthews

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> Ray -- yes, the Nitto Big Front Rack is rigid, and therefore OK with
> clamps. But the Nova is not rigid, according to Tubus' web site:http://www.tubus.com/en/lowrider/nova In the diagram on the right,

Not sure what you mean by rigid. The Nova is stainless steel which is
more heavy and less strong than cro-molly (much better looking). The
Tubus Ergo and Tara properly mounted carry as much or more up front
than any tourer will ever want.

I have the Tubus Tara mounted to mid-fork braze ons. An excellent set
up for touring.

As I understand your real dilemma is you do not have mid-fork braze
ons. A rack that mounts at the drop out and to the fork crown
probably is optimal under the circumstances. I think the big Nitto
and similar racks meant to carry a lot on top and the side are less
than perfect for long road touring. Panniers low and to the side up
front, with possibly a small handlebar bag with map holder or GPS
mount seems the more practical set up.

Ray Shine

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Yes, Lisa, I see what you mean. It still seems like a good design, and I wouldn't be overly concerned about using a clamp to attach it to a fork.  If all the bolts on the rack itself are tight, it becomes virtually rigid, and the clamp won't slide down.  It won't slide down rapidly in any event, so routine check and bolt snugging will certainly catch a slip.  I actually had more trouble with my rear rack working loose where the struts from the brake bridge connected to the rack.  I ended up using two zip ties to hold the rack from slipping back on the struts.  That held trouble-free for he next 2,000 miles.  Go figure…


From: Lisa <ukulel...@mac.com>
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Ray -- yes, the Nitto Big Front Rack is rigid, and therefore OK with
clamps.  But the Nova is not rigid, according to Tubus' web site:
http://www.tubus.com/en/lowrider/nova  In the diagram on the right,
the Nova pannier support arm is marked "adjustable" with arcs to show
where it pivots.

I do believe there are some rigid designs of lowriders out there --
Bruce Gordon's, for instance.

Lisa

On May 11, 7:03 pm, Ray Shine <r.sh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Lisa --- that isn't a concern because the rack is rigid and can't collapse onto itself. The only thong the p- clamp does is prevent the rack from falling forward or rearward.  If the bottom of the rack is attached to eyelets, then the rack cannot slide down any further since it is a rigid structure.

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Lisa:

One solution to the lack of mid fork eyelets on the Atlantis is to
simply add them as needed. I've added standard rack hourglass eyelets
to the front of the fork legs for the Nitto small rack, and another
pair on the rear of the legs for the low rider rack I add for loaded
tours. My Atlantis is 58 cm so everything has to come off to
pack'n'ship for a remote start tour. I got sick of the Rubik's cube
problem of installing my bolt together front rack with U-clamps.

One caution is to locate the eyelets for maximum versatility in case
you may change racks. See the TouringStore.com website for detailed
info but all racks are not alike. This is the voice of experience as
I'm about to add another set of eyelets for my new rack. BTW, the
paint job is history when you do this but Testors makes an almost
perfect match for the Atlantis color. It fools most everyone except
my fussy Riv buds.

dougP

On May 12, 6:44 am, Ray Shine <r.sh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Yes, Lisa, I see what you mean. It still seems like a good design, and I wouldn't be overly concerned about using a clamp to attach it to a fork.  If all the bolts on the rack itself are tight, it becomes virtually rigid, and the clamp won't slide down.  It won't slide down rapidly in any event, so routine check and bolt snugging will certainly catch a slip.  I actually had more trouble with my rear rack working loose where the struts from the brake bridge connected to the rack.  I ended up using two zip ties to hold the rack from slipping back on the struts.  That held trouble-free for he next 2,000 miles.  Go figure…
>
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> Subject: [RBW] Re: Nitto Highrider front rack vs. Big Front Rack vs. Low  Riders
>
> Ray -- yes, the Nitto Big Front Rack is rigid, and therefore OK with
> clamps.  But the Nova is not rigid, according to Tubus' web site:http://www.tubus.com/en/lowrider/nova In the diagram on the right,
> the Nova pannier support arm is marked "adjustable" with arcs to show
> where it pivots.
>
> I do believe there are some rigid designs of lowriders out there --
> Bruce Gordon's, for instance.
>
> Lisa
>
> On May 11, 7:03 pm, Ray Shine <r.sh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > Lisa --- that isn't a concern because the rack is rigid and can't collapse onto itself. The only thong the p- clamp does is prevent the rack from falling forward or rearward.  If the bottom of the rack is attached to eyelets, then the rack cannot slide down any further since it is a rigid structure.
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Mojo

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For my touring bike, a Surly LHT, I use a Nitto M12 on top and Tubus
Duo lowriders below. I like this setup alot, functionally and
aesthetically.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/4601203765/in/set-72157607471577085/
The Duo does require a fork threaded on both sides, and an upper to
lower brazeon distance of precisely 6.5 inches, so its a bit specific.

I rode a Nitto Highrider front rack for a awhile on my Allrounder.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/4601769640/in/set-72157607471577085/
But I have gone to a M12 rack on that bike too (to carry the handlebar
bag). The rack braze-ons on this bike are ~8.5 inches from the
dropout, but the rack is more adjustable than the Duo.

After hanging in the garage for 2 years, the Nitto Highrider rack is
for sale: $100 shipped in the lower 48 states. It is lightly used, no
dings or scratches. No hardware included (4 water bottle bolts will
attach it), but there is a white reflector attached and silver
reflective tape on much of the front facing tubes.


On Apr 26, 10:57 pm, Rene Sterental <orthie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does anybody have any experience comparing these three?
>
> René
>

doug peterson

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Mojo:

That's exactly the rack set-up I'll have shortly. An hourglass eyelet
on the back side of the fork blade will pick up one set of the Tubus'
upper mounting holes. A spacer is necessary to make it a solid
mount. Another option is water bottle mounts thru the fork blades but
Rivendell does not recommend drilling holes in their forks. Don't
know how the tubing used on an Atlantis fork compares to that of an
LHT but one would think they'd be quite similar.

The beauty of the Duo is the ease of packing & shipping. My Nitto Big
Rear Rack requires careful packing to get everything in the shipping
box. I love Nitto racks, functionally & aesthetically, but needed
something simpler & more compact.

dougP

On May 12, 10:01 am, Mojo <gjtra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> For my touring bike, a Surly LHT, I use a Nitto M12 on top and Tubus
> Duo lowriders below. I like this setup alot, functionally and
> aesthetically.http://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/4601203765/in/set-721576074...
> The Duo does require a fork threaded on both sides, and an upper to
> lower brazeon distance of precisely 6.5 inches, so its a bit specific.
>
> I rode a Nitto Highrider front rack for a awhile on my Allrounder.http://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/4601769640/in/set-721576074...

Rene Sterental

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The Duo and the Nova are both rated to 33 lbs / 15 Kg. Both can be found in silver. Is there any advantage of one over the other, assuming you can mount both on your fork? As stated by Mojo, the eyelet on the back of the Bombadil fork would be used for the Duo, otherwise it has no use that I know of.

Lisa

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May 12, 2010, 5:28:54 PM5/12/10
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Doug and Ray,

I do like the two-rack solution for a fork with eyelets. But since I
don't have them, I'm going to try the Nitto Big Front rack. I'm not
ready to think about repainting the fork on a bike I haven't even
ridden yet!

Lisa

On May 12, 12:58 pm, doug peterson <dougpn...@cox.net> wrote:
> Lisa:
>
> One solution to the lack of mid fork eyelets on the Atlantis is to
> simply add them as needed.  I've added standard rack hourglass eyelets
> to the front of the fork legs for the Nitto small rack, and another
> pair on the rear of the legs for the low rider rack I add for loaded
> tours.  My Atlantis is 58 cm so everything has to come off to
> pack'n'ship for a remote start tour.  I got sick of the Rubik's cube
> problem of installing my bolt together front rack with U-clamps.
>
> One caution is to locate the eyelets for maximum versatility in case
> you may change racks.  See the TouringStore.com website for detailed
> info but all racks are not alike.  This is the voice of experience as
> I'm about to add another set of eyelets for my new rack.  BTW, the
> paint job is history when you do this but Testors makes an almost
> perfect match for the Atlantis color.  It fools most everyone except
> my fussy Riv buds.
>
> dougP
>

Ray Shine

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Lisa -- That would also be my recommendation. I use the rack on my Atlantis, and have never had an inkling of trouble. Granted, the clamp looks a little clumsy, but with panniers on, one can't see it anyway.  Lots of the other posters commented about using the boxy bag up front.  I can't address that, as I don't use one.  I use a common wire basket with a bungy net most of the time, sometimes a common fanny pack, and sometimes a trunk bag I bought from REI.  I have since given that bag to my son to use, so I might as well count that as gone.


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Lisa:

The Nitto Big Front Rack gives you a lot of options and is a wonderful
rack. In my case, when torch first touched fork, the bike was already
six years old, with plenty of paint abuse in evidence. You not
wanting to re-paint a brand new fork is understandable. Eyelets are a
nice convenience but clamps do the same job.

dougP
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Rene:

I have the Duo but have not used the Nova. My reason for the Duo is
the 2 pieces are separate & it makes easier packing for shipping. My
total front load is usually under 25 lbs. From the pix, the Nova
looks to have some adjustment, so there may be latitude in the eyelet
placement. With the Duo, there are 3 sets of mounting holes on the
mid-fork bar so they eyelets have to be spot-on. On
theTouringStore.com website, there's a big caution about the need for
specific dimensions on the eyelet placement and a warning that not all
mfgs are consistent. I saw a couple of Surly LHTs last summer with
front racks where the pannier attachment bar was at something like a
30 degree angle. Front racks can get complex.

dougP

Rene Sterental

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Thanks Doug,
 
I placed an order for a Nova from Wiggle in England. Free shipping and cost of the rack is only $115 compared to $150+ here in the US. I think I'll go with that one and then reassess from there. I have yet to find some time to call RBW, but I'm likely going to be returning the Nitto Big Front Rack as I believe my needs will be well met by the Nova/Nitto Mini combo for now. Still... maybe I'll keep the Nitto just in case... :-) It's a beautiful rack and Ray's P-clamp solution is a good one as well. I still have my Tubus Cosmo that the Nitto Big Rear rack replaced, and haven't been able to decide to sell it. It's also a beautiful rack and I like it a lot as well. I used to have it on the AHH, and then removed it when I decided to go with the Sackville saddlebag medium in gray for my commutes. Unfortuately, I don't think that bag goes very well with the Nitto Big Rear rack, but will have to try it. I was using it on the Bombadil with the Nitto R-14 and it worked very well this way.
 
Now if I can just find more free time... :-)
 
René

doug peterson

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Rene:

That's quite a collection of nice racks. Be hard to part with any of
them. Don't forget that Lisa is looking for a Nitto Big Front.

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Boogarich

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Has anyone used the Tubus fork mounting adaptor kit? I have a set but
have not used it yet. My plan is to mount these adaptors on my
Atlantis and then attach a Tubus Tara Rack.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Tubus_LM-1_Mounting_Set_For_Forks_W~O_Eyelets/5360025910/

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Garth

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In regards to the Tubus Nova, can it accept the wide tires of the
Bombadil or Atlantis ? Just wondering what the max width is.
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