H/Hilsen (Toyo) tire size

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Gerard Gunhouse

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Jun 20, 2021, 9:20:31 PM6/20/21
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Greetings
Can anyone confirm or shed light on the largest tire size one can safely ride on a Toyo H/Hilsen (56 650B) with fenders. I would like to work a 38-42 if possible and don't want to cut it too close for safety reasons. 
Thanks much 
Gunner  

Cyclofiend Jim

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Jun 20, 2021, 9:37:08 PM6/20/21
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Ahhhh... just before I posted this, I realized you have a 650B (which is essentially a Saluki in 56). My comments below the line were for a 700C Hilsen. I think you'll find any reference to Saluki clearances would be appropriate.

There is a thread here which chats a bit about Saluki v. Hilsen
https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/5JKIpW9dQTA

In that thread, you will find reference to a fendered Saluki with 42's. 

------ 700C comments ---- 

I still run Jack Browns (bulky 33 1/3) on mine and there is gobs of room. 

On this page, you can see Pasela 37's and plenty of space to spare - 
http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/hilsen/index.html

Original RR article introducing the 700C Hilsen stated clearance for 40 with fenders. (you'll find a hi-rez archived scan on that page as well).

- J

David Hays

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Jun 20, 2021, 10:08:44 PM6/20/21
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I have a Toyo Homer 56 650B and I’m running Hetres and VO Zeppelin fenders.
Although not thinking to run anything bigger, there seems to be good clearance.

David

 

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Gerard Gunhouse

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Jun 21, 2021, 11:29:59 AM6/21/21
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Gentlemen

Much appreciate all the feedback. Confirming 42s with fenders will work answers my questions. 

Dave...very nice looking H/H build you have there.

Cheers

Gunner

Doug Williams

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Jun 21, 2021, 7:14:16 PM6/21/21
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I have a Waterford Hilsen in 56 and I run Babyshoe Pass 42's with fenders. They are close but I have been running them for several years with no issues.

Doug

Doug Williams

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Jun 24, 2021, 6:59:50 PM6/24/21
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Yes, sorry. I should have mentioned that my 56 Hilsen is 650B. The largest Hilsen that is 650B. Essentially a Saluki with a different paint job. But yes, I have run 42mm Babyshoe Pass tires  under the SKS fenders for years with zero issues. Of course, Mark at Rivendell installed the fenders, and he is a master. If I had put them on, they would probably rub everywhere.

Doug

Matt Beecher

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Jun 25, 2021, 11:28:02 AM6/25/21
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Hi Doug,

I have a 58 AHH that is 650B.  I wanted a 58 Saluki to see if I liked it more than my 60cm Saluki, but settled on the AHH.  I prefer the Saluki decals and badge.

Best regards,
Matt

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