FS- 2003 Riv Custom- Curt Goodrich- yes, Patrick Moores'.

[Tom Palmer]

Hi all,

I traded Patricks' current Monocog for this custom frame, forks, racks and fenders. It took a while to get built and after riding, it is just too big. My plans were for a touring bike since the custom racks are wonderful- stiff and light. Patrick had it fixed gear and I have fixed gears and single speeds, but with touring in mind, I geared it with a not too hideous claw mount and Suntour derailler. the frame is 57cm CtoC seat tube and 56cm CtoC top tube. I am unsure of the frame angles. A lot of info on this frame can be found by searching to archives for "03 Curt". Comes with 2 forks- original for caliper brakes and custom Patrick had made with cantilevers  or V brakes. nitto Technomic stem and Noodle Bars with Cane creek levers. Suntour  power ratchet stem shifters shifting rear only- never had front derailler. I rarely shift the front and would kick down to smaller ring with foot if needed. I think grant calls it the stick method.  Triple front crankset, Sugino XD with 50,42, 30 rings. I rode it in the 42 and never needed a lower gear. I did not ride it a ton, being too stretched out but tried it over a few different routes, one with a lot of hills. Rides good loaded, the racks are great. The rear cluster is 7 speed, fairly wide, 13-32 I believe. brakes are Tektro 559 front and Shimano 600 rear. Hammered fender installed on rear now, with cutout section to clear brake for max tire clearance. It also includes a set of new VO smooth metal fenders- not sure what, but I can check it you wish.  Wheels are early 90's MTB from a bridgestone MB-3. Rear spacing is 130mm. New 26x1.35 Kojaks measure 36mm on these wideish rims. my plan was to set the Kojaks up Tubeless as Patick had in the past. Patrick had the frame and forks powder coated and it looks good.  The bike rides well, I wish it fit me better. I tried it with Albatross bars also and it fit much better for riding, but the standover is still too high for touring for me. I even prefer a mixte for touring. 

I have $850 into it considering the Monocog trade and new parts and that is what I am asking plus actual shipping to the group. 

I am attaching a cou, bu thave a lot I can text to you. My number is 231-206-5 three zero 3.

Tom Palmer

Twin Lake, MI

[Tom Palmer]

Forgot to add- the seatpost is a really cool Sugino. Seat and pedals are not included.

Tom

[Tom Palmer]

Here is the whole bike, Thought it was in first post.

Tom

[Patrick Moore]

I'm sorry Tom didn't in the end like the Curt as well as I eventually ended up liking the Monocog he sent me in trade.

Note that the level tt effective length is 57 or perhaps 56.5. Also, the Matthews replacement fork (made for Matthews 2:1) will accommodate 42 mm tires, and perhaps a bit wider, but won't accommodate 42s and fenders as it was supposed to do.

The powdercoat is really first rate and worthy to replace the Joe Bell original paint.

Integrated f and rear racks and internal light wiring.

I would not set up Kojaks tubeless. I did that briefly but it was only air pressure holding the beads to the rims. But Kojaks ride well with tubes; they were my tire of choice after I decided that 26 X 1.25 Paselas just flatted too often (tho' Orange Seal regular formula in the Paselas' tubes will solve most puncture problems). Note taht at least with the Matthews fork and just possibly with the original fork you can use the superlative 42 mm RH Naches Pass. And of course you can without any restrictions at all use the also superlative 28 mm Elk Pass, with fenders.

Curt Goodrich's workmanship is stellar, and the modifications by Dave Porter and Chauncey Matthews are well done, too.

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Patrick Moore

Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum

[Patrick Moore]

Note: Primer on bottom front of rear dropouts is my doing. Chauncey sourced extra-long dropouts from England, but I cut off 1/4" from the bottom forward ends to ease axle entry/egress, primered the metal, but never got around to a finish coat. For ss use the remaining slots will accommodate at least 4 teeth if not 5, assuming that your small cog puts the axle close to the end of the dropouts.

[Patrick Moore]

One more addendum, regarding frame sizing. I am 5'10" but with an Asian build; if my torso were combined with Anglo legs, I'd be over 6' tall. My arms like my legs are shorter than the average Anglo's of my height.

The exact right road bike size for me in level top tube frames is 60 X 56 or 57 c-c; this Curt frame matches that with a (3*?) upsloping tt. 

Talking (and Singing) of the Nordic Man by Hilaire Belloc

I

Behold, my child, the Nordic man,
And be as like him, as you can;
His legs are long, his mind is slow,
His hair is lank and made of tow.

II

And here we have the Alpine Race:
Oh! What a broad and foolish face!
His skin is of a dirty yellow.
He is a most unpleasant fellow.

III

The most degraded of them all
Mediterranean we call.
His hair is crisp, and even curls,
And he is saucy with the girls.

[Note: Belloc is mocking very popular and very common late 19th or very early 20th century neo-Darwinist eugenic ideologies of racial superiority.]

[Patrick Moore]

Sorry, off topic I know, but I can't resist. I'm hardly anti-white; my father was so WASP that people thought he was old British military.

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

On topic- Riv makes bikes for every person in that photograph!, and that's mostly why I love Rivendell...

-Kai

[Tom Palmer]

Quite  a few inquiries but no offers yet. Someone asked if I would sell the frame and forks separate. 

Yes I will. Frame, 2 forks in matching powdercoat, custom racks and 2 sets of fenders $525 plus actual shipping. I have a box and materials to ship already.

My goal in posting here first is to get it to someone who would appreciate it and I would not have to add bar tape, a front derailler, etc to sell locally to someone that is just looking for a bike. 

Thanks!

Tom

[bob saunders]

Tom...will this frame fit 650b wheels?

Thanks 

[Tom Palmer]

It will not fit 650B wheels. I tried it with the 650bx32mm Hutchinson tires and no go.

Tom

[Ryan Nute]

What a rad bike and a great deal.  Wish it was a a size smaller.

Ryan

[Tom Palmer]

Hi all,

I have had several inquiries, but no takers. It looks like I will be trying to sell locally so I did a bit of a reconfigure to make appealing to the locals. Changes are Ritchey rims on Campagnolo hubs, 8 speed Campagnolo cassette. Big jockey wheel Shimano tourney rear derailler that is kind of hideous, but works great. Suntour Barcon friction shifters, Shimano 600 front derailler and changed the chainrings to 46/28 compact double. I also added bar tape to the Noodles. With these upgrades, I will still sell to Bobs for $850 plus shipping with the second fork and hammered fenders. I will keep the new VO fenders for another project. Seat still not included, but pinned platform pedals are.

text or call is still best- 231 206 5 three zero 3
Thanks!

Tom

[Tom Palmer]

Bike sold to enthusiastic list member. 

Tom 

On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 2:02:54 PM UTC-4 Tom Palmer wrote:

[Bill Lindsay]

Whoever bought this owes it to the list to add another chapter (episode?) to the reality-TV show of this frame.  We want content!  What are you doing with it?

Bill Lindsay

El Cerrito, CA

[Tom Palmer]

He said he was going to do a new bike day post on it. 

He even mentioned putting it back to fixed gear possibly.

Tom

[Patrick Moore]

It sold! You had better luck than I did; tho' I ended up fortunate because, in desperation, I traded it for Tom's Monocog, which has taken me down a completely new rabbit hole.

Yes, buyer, please do post photos and give us impressions and ride reports in excruciating detail.

[Bryce Wiseman]

Indeed it was. Please allow me to briefly introduce myself: long-time lurker, first-time Rivendell owner. First, let me say that many times I have observed the kindness and generosity of BOBs, and it was wonderful to experience it firsthand in making a deal with Tom. He went out of his way to make sure my first Riv is a great one. After coming across his listing locally(-ish) and reaching out, I initially walked away, thinking the chainstays were a bit too short for my liking (comparitavely speaking my current Riv standards). I then spent the rest of the week wondering if I had made a bad decision, and then after doing a bit more research and finding his post here (I had been avoiding the list, having told myself I would not buy another bike until I'd sold my motorcycle...well, I lied), I looked through the archive at all of Patrick's posts on the evolution of the bike and by that time I knew this was the one. If nothing else, finding a frame with the exact dimensions I need was enough to push me over the edge. Miraculously, to my mind at least, no one had snatched it up in the meantime, and so I was able to make it mine. And I could not be happier. It was love from first pedal stroke. I have never felt more physically connected to a bike that wasn't a fixie. I have been out on a couple of long rides around town the past couple of days, on a mix of paved and unpaved paths and city streets in all manner of (dis)repair, and it just positively sails along. I am so grateful to everyone who has had a hand in the crafting and keeping of this bike for helping me to make a dream over a decade and a half in making a reality. And I look forward to "seeing" more of you around!